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Chat room cheating?

Discussion in 'Off-topic Discussion' started by Js5, Apr 14, 2014.

  1. Js5

    Js5 Fapstronaut

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    Alright I'm on my 11th straight day of no masturbation/edging/porn, which is good for me. I was so close a couple of times in breaking that streak on the 4th or 5th day. I was flirting and/or having unnecessary chats with a woman in a chat room, where I knew that was a possibility. I didn't edge or anything but I WAS looking for some sort of thrill, I guess. So, this is why I was doing push-ups, jumping jacks, listening to music, etc. for a couple hours of my life last week during one evening. So…since then, I have made it more difficult for myself to even get to this chat service. But what are your thoughts on this? I would think it's a way to cut corners really. Some may even say going to a chat room where the expectation of explicit chat is there would be a form of porn maybe. Yet, I don't think it completely takes away my 11-day streak since I have not edged or anything. I got aroused but didn't act on it. But word of caution to anyone else doing something like this: It was not fun getting rid of that arousal through a cold shower, push ups or whatever. That feeling that's almost in the pit of the stomach, that craving, was making things unpleasant for me - and it was my own fault. So live and learn but just wanted to bring this topic up since I haven't seen much on it.
     
  2. You are iscovering what REAL male sexuality is. To live in a sexualized world and have yor body react to the stimulys without YOU helping things along.
    GREAT Job.
    The arousal you feel is what you will always feel in this highly stimulating world we live in but it is theway you and the others of us here choose to react to that stimulysis is what sets us apart!
    You are set apart by being a non masturbator,(you know that you were) and now you are powerfully charge with a human body that may react because we are so visually stimulated but YOU are in control. Cool.
     
  3. Caveat Emptor

    Caveat Emptor Distinguished Fapstronaut

    How much time did you spend in these chat rooms?
    Did you get anything meaningful out of it?

    It seems that you recognize that these rooms are a slippery slope to relapse and a big negative for your reboot, but you also seem to think that you can handle it.

    The truth is, you probably can't, and its too big of a risk to take. Like you said, you can't go there expecting some kind of explicit chat. IMO, that's porn, but in text form.

    It will slow down your reboot, and it will waste your time just like traditional porn would.
     
  4. Js5

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    No doubt about it, giggleshmack, I went there to make myself available to see what would be offered. Mostly, it was nothing but then there was a situation I could have given in to. So, I need to boot it out of my life along with the other things I'm trying to minimize. Definitely a time waster and another way to feed the unwanted craving. Just wanted people's thoughts about whether or not my streak is really legit at this moment.
     
  5. Markguy

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    Good that you are reflecting Js5. I think it's less critical about affecting your streak, and more about whether chat should be avoided or not. In my case, chat became more destructive and compulsive than porn. It started out simple but chat carries with it potential emotional connections and conflicts that are not necessarily present with watching porn. I started to revolve around when chat partners were available, often middle of the night or work hours. Virtual world chat opened up extreme pixelated fantasies and I also wound up paying for chat, because I wanted the rush of certain fantasies when I'd get impatient trying to find an online hookup or my regulars were not there. For me, chat is porn, but I did this because it had the same artificial and compulsive reactions, so I had to self ban. Even innocent banter would trigger cravings for more and more. So be cautious and honest with yourself on how it affects you. All the best!
     
  6. Js5

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    Markguy, you nailed it. I really couldn't put it into the words that you did but yes, the online chatting actually probably became more compulsive for me than the porn (but the chat might influence more porn or vice versa). So, the more I've explored this, the more I believe that yes, the chatting has the same effect as the porn - if not worse sometimes. And yeah, I'd go there to just "hang out" and any sort of "innocent" chat always had the weight of the chat going somewhere it didn't need to (but where I often embraced it going to). It started out as a way to deal with loneliness, I suppose, but then I'd even do it secretly during relationships so it became a problem. It's not easy to admit that. Not proud of it but I feel this online community is embracing of people who have had similar issues and I'm making an effort to fix the problem so I feel like being honest in a way I'm just not with others is necessary.

    When I first started this thing, I thought I could maybe go to those chat places still sometimes but the last week tells me that is not the case. Then I sort of gave in last night. So, I feel like I've grown over the past 11 days and proved to myself that this is possible. But now it's time to cut out the "corner cutting" of explicit chats and I'm starting the streak over today: Day 1.
     
  7. Markguy

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    Good for you, Js5! I also started chat for loneliness but continued secretly while in relationships for the supposed thrill it gave. In hindsight, it never really satisfied the real emotional needs I was seeking. I needed more and more intense and provocative connections, seeking people I wouldn't in real life. It was an illusion I pursued and I wound up hurting people by abandoning chat partners when it would become too real and less fun and intriguing. I also learned that many chat partners also had struggles like me and unfortunately two addicts together do not make a healthy whole. I started to carry emotional burdens of relative strangers.

    I also reached the point where no one was perfect enough to satisfy my cravings, just like porn desensitization. Chat winds up hurting you, the other person and the relationship partner and can become deeply engrossing. I did more chat than most and can say it's ultimately an empty and unfulfilling pursuit. I tried using vanilla chat as a transition but in my case it just led me back.

    But the key to recovery isn't self shaming. It's starting again and making better, healthy choices. Good luck to you and wishing you much success!
     
  8. Js5

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    Thanks for the insight, Markguy. Your experience sounds similar to my own. That feeling of trying to fill the void is never really filled through the chatting. And I would get the feeling the other person was trying to feed their particular niche(s) like I was. Sort of self-serving, I guess. Not at all like relationships should be. Not to mention the element of having this "relationship" with a person you only type to. So, I want to be done with it. Thanks for the kind words. And best wishes to you as well.
     

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