CHECK IT IF YOU FEAR THE VENOUS LEAK

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futuredentist

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So it all started in December 2018 when I was diagonosed with left sided varicocele and got really depressed. In March 2019 I noticed that my erection got weaker and when I stand up it goes away in seconds. I couldnt remeber the last time i had morning wood (thought its a myth).

In April I decided to try NoFap in order to lift my mind and get better erections. A lot of relapses...

After 1-2 weeks abstinence i got my first morning erection but they werent full (Im a perfectionist) so i decided to get more serious. Still losing erection when standing up...only get them when i lie on my back. That was the time I started to search my symptoms online and found about VENOUS LEAK - a huge mistake.

NEVER GOOGLE YOUR SYMPTOMS NO MATTER WHAT PART OF BODY IT IS - IT IS A TRAP

So i fell in the trap of thinking i have venous leak for months. Weak erections, flaccid head, position depended ED, losing with no manual stimulation...even watching porn couldnt get me up. I dont get sponatneous erections except weak morning wood for months.

In July after a 47 day streak i relapsed due to spermogram and following varicocele surgery. At that time i get morning erections OFTEN but they arent maximum strong.

I started my second serious streak in July and at 35 day i get my first maximal 100% erection sitting on my bed by chatting with a girl online - thats some progress finally.
I get great morning erections and very strong ones by talking to girls and chatting but still no spontaneous and soft erections when standing on my legs.

Everybody says that having morning wood means no erectile problems but I was still in the fear of venous leak.

In the end of August, one night i was looking at a pic of a girl and got really hard. I decided to get on my knees and check my erection in that position - it remained with no physical stimulation. At that moment I got up and standed still for some time but it kept full with NO touching. THAT WAS THE MAGICAL MOMENT FOR ME WHEN I REALISED I HAD NO VENOUS LEAK FOR SURE ! AFTER 2 ATTEMPTS OF NOFAP FOR 45 DAYS - NOW I WAS SURE.

Early in September i relapsed due to fears of correlation between abstinence and prostate health but thats another story :D I will go for 90 days now I hope...

SO TO SUM IT UP...MY ADVICE FOR YOU IF YOU FEAR THAT YOU HAVE VENOUS LEAK IS :
1. DONT SEARCH OR LOOK FOR IT IN GOOGLE - ITS VERY SCARY INFORMATION AND WILL SURELY GET YOU DEPRESSED. IT GOT ME FOR ABOUT 5 MONTHS.

2. THERE IS NO LINK BETWEEN VENOUS LEAK AND VARICOCELE, VEINS ON PENIS SKIN, MONDORS DISEASE AND HEMOROIDS (some guy on a forum posted that if u have varicocele and hemoroids + veins on legs(i have them all) you have 100% venous leak- this is bullshit)

3. MOST IMPORTANT - IF YOUR MORNING WOOD GETS BACK THEN YOU DONT HAVE VENOUS LEAK REMEMBER THAT !!!! YOU HAVE PIED

4. PIED SYMPTOMS ARE SAME WITH VENOUS LEAK

5. YOU ARE BORN WITH LEAK EXCEPT YOU GET IN A CAR CRASH WITH A HUGE HIT IN GROIN WHICH LEADS TO EMERGENCY ROOM

In conclusion - this society really saved my life (i was seriously suicidal). I dont have words to describe the way I feel after the journey - it really helps mind and body and deserves to try. I want to thank everyone here u guys really lift me up.

This is the first time I post here and the goal of this article is to help everybody who challenges the fear of having venous leak and to proove that YOU DONT HAVE IT. All you need to do is to give yourself some time and enjoy the results. THANK YOU !!!
 
As somebody going through Gainswave Therapy atm for ED(seeing great results btw), I've had lengthy conversations with my doctor about all the causes of ED. I'll put it bluntly, guys with venous leak CANNOT get erections, not even slightly. The blood flows in, and flows right back out because there is no locking mechanism in main penile artery to prevent back flow when aroused. Guys with venous leaks can't even get erections by jacking off with constant stimulation.

So if you're a guy who is having trouble getting/keeping erections, or they're not as firm as before, or you can't get full erections, only partial, take courage, it's not venous leak, its something else, throw that out your mind.
 
Hey brother, it's nice to see you feeling good and confident. I thought you could share some info about varicocele. I probably have them for more than 8 years starting from my late teens like 17 or something. Its on the left side and it hang pretty low in warm weather. I never had pain except some discomfort while sitting on a bus for travelling for more than an hour recently. Might be because my briefs are too tight. I don't know. I am kinda afraid to go to a doctor because I am kinda afraid of surgery. I never had any pain while lifting at the gym. I honestly don't know what to do.

You wrote you had surgery. I am wondering about your experience of it. what kind, why the doctor recommended, did you take semen test? Please share your thoughts brother and i really appreciate it. Thanks.
 
I probably have varicocele since I was 15 because I remember feeling lumpy veins above my left testicle. I think it may have developed from heavy weights in the gym but it may be genetical too I dont know. I never knew I have varicocele - no pain no discomfort - always thought its just the shape of my testicle.

Last year I stopped going to the gym and stopped eating well because the stress at the university - thats when I dropped 10 kgs (72 to 62). I was so skinny and exhausted and suddenly developed pain above my left testicle for the first time in my life that didnt go away. Thats when I went to an urologist and got ultrasound which confirmed left low grade varicocele. He said its not neccesery to operate but it would be good at some moment later.

I waited for July 2019 when I went to another urologist (best in the city and in the exact same hospital) and he ordered a spermogram which was bad - Teratozoospermia and Hyperspermia although MY PERSONAL OPINION IS THAT ITS INCORRECT BECAUSE I ABSTAINED FOR 47 DAYS BEFORE THE TEST AND JUST FAPPED ONCE 3-4 DAYS BEFORE THE TEST...so it could be incorrect.

He offered me the surgery which is very easy and light. I was put to sleep under general anaesthesia for 45min-1hour and woke up done. It doesnt hurt at all. I was walking the same day. Took rest for 3 days and then again started going out. Its very simple easy and doesnt hurt. After 14 days I started going to the gym but now I only run and lift very Light weights because Im careful with it.

I take pills Profertil (type of medical food for sperm mobility and development) and the doc said we shuold do another spermogram after 4-5 months. I hope to be okay...
 
futuredentist said:
I probably have varicocele since I was 15 because I remember feeling lumpy veins above my left testicle. I think it may have developed from heavy weights in the gym but it may be genetical too I dont know. I never knew I have varicocele - no pain no discomfort - always thought its just the shape of my testicle.

Last year I stopped going to the gym and stopped eating well because the stress at the university - thats when I dropped 10 kgs (72 to 62). I was so skinny and exhausted and suddenly developed pain above my left testicle for the first time in my life that didnt go away. Thats when I went to an urologist and got ultrasound which confirmed left low grade varicocele. He said its not neccesery to operate but it would be good at some moment later.

I waited for July 2019 when I went to another urologist (best in the city and in the exact same hospital) and he ordered a spermogram which was bad - Teratozoospermia and Hyperspermia although MY PERSONAL OPINION IS THAT ITS INCORRECT BECAUSE I ABSTAINED FOR 47 DAYS BEFORE THE TEST AND JUST FAPPED ONCE 3-4 DAYS BEFORE THE TEST...so it could be incorrect.

He offered me the surgery which is very easy and light. I was put to sleep under general anaesthesia for 45min-1hour and woke up done. It doesnt hurt at all. I was walking the same day. Took rest for 3 days and then again started going out. Its very simple easy and doesnt hurt. After 14 days I started going to the gym but now I only run and lift very Light weights because Im careful with it.

I take pills Profertil (type of medical food for sperm mobility and development) and the doc said we shuold do another spermogram after 4-5 months. I hope to be okay...
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Thanks for your valuable reply mate. I just wanna know what kind of surgery you had, laproscopic or microscopic? what is the size of the incision? How much the whole surgery costs?

Mine is probably grade 3 and my balls hang pretty low in the left and i can clearly sense the inflamed veins in the left side. I am thinking of going to a urologist and get it checked. My mom has varicose veins in her leg and her doctor didn't recommend any surgery. I don't know if its a genetic or not. But i have to deal with it. I sometimes think it's because of my pmo habits since it only occured after i started to fap. Again thank you very much brother.
 
Hey bro, mine was microscopic (doc said its the golden choice in varicocelectomy), the incision is about 1-2 cm (very small) left from the penis, above the testicle. Im fom Bulgaria and it costed me 850 leva which is about 425 euro.

I recommend you to go and operate it no matter what because no matter how low grade is it warms the whole scrotum and affects the cells. Even if you dont operate it you may still have kids, but its better to let it go and to live calm and happy.

Good luck brother :)
 
Thank you very much for the reply brother. I will definitely get it checked. Did the dilated veins will disappear after the microscopic surgery or will it take few months to disappear? Thanks mate.
 
Before the surgery I had a mass of veins above the testicle. Right after the surgery I no longer could feel veins and my scrotum looks symmetrical since then :) At touch it feels soft and smooth as the right side...no veins, no swelling, no redness - just a pure masterpiece
 
futuredentist said:
Before the surgery I had a mass of veins above the testicle. Right after the surgery I no longer could feel veins and my scrotum looks symmetrical since then :) At touch it feels soft and smooth as the right side...no veins, no swelling, no redness - just a pure masterpiece
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It is really good to read this thread and the facts you can share with those that are anxious. It is also nice you are happy with how your genitals look - a masterpiece, lol!
futuredentist said:
hemoroids + veins on legs(i have them all)
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I am really wanting to comment on your experience with haemorrhoids o_O (English spelling). You are very young to have these. I have them, too. :( Do they impact on you sexually bro? Mine itch a lot (and bleed) and the feelings around my anus can make my penis go very erect. Have you experienced this? How do you deal with arousal from a medical condition?
 
I've seen a lot of guys with PIED thinking they had venous leak which healed through reboot.
 
Clean Willy said:
I am really wanting to comment on your experience with haemorrhoids o_O (English spelling). You are very young to have these. I have them, too. :( Do they impact on you sexually bro? Mine itch a lot (and bleed) and the feelings around my anus can make my penis go very erect. Have you experienced this? How do you deal with arousal from a medical condition?
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I got them from lifting very heavy deadlifts in the gym (which was stupid but I was only 14 and not educated and listened to some dumb meatheads in the local gym)...they dont cause me any problems - no bleeding, no pain, no itchness but I feel them as several soft lumps around my anal opening and have anxiety.
 
Could you check your private message please? I need your help
futuredentist said:
So it all started in December 2018 when I was diagonosed with left sided varicocele and got really depressed. In March 2019 I noticed that my erection got weaker and when I stand up it goes away in seconds. I couldnt remeber the last time i had morning wood (thought its a myth).

In April I decided to try NoFap in order to lift my mind and get better erections. A lot of relapses...

After 1-2 weeks abstinence i got my first morning erection but they werent full (Im a perfectionist) so i decided to get more serious. Still losing erection when standing up...only get them when i lie on my back. That was the time I started to search my symptoms online and found about VENOUS LEAK - a huge mistake.

NEVER GOOGLE YOUR SYMPTOMS NO MATTER WHAT PART OF BODY IT IS - IT IS A TRAP

So i fell in the trap of thinking i have venous leak for months. Weak erections, flaccid head, position depended ED, losing with no manual stimulation...even watching porn couldnt get me up. I dont get sponatneous erections except weak morning wood for months.

In July after a 47 day streak i relapsed due to spermogram and following varicocele surgery. At that time i get morning erections OFTEN but they arent maximum strong.

I started my second serious streak in July and at 35 day i get my first maximal 100% erection sitting on my bed by chatting with a girl online - thats some progress finally.
I get great morning erections and very strong ones by talking to girls and chatting but still no spontaneous and soft erections when standing on my legs.

Everybody says that having morning wood means no erectile problems but I was still in the fear of venous leak.

In the end of August, one night i was looking at a pic of a girl and got really hard. I decided to get on my knees and check my erection in that position - it remained with no physical stimulation. At that moment I got up and standed still for some time but it kept full with NO touching. THAT WAS THE MAGICAL MOMENT FOR ME WHEN I REALISED I HAD NO VENOUS LEAK FOR SURE ! AFTER 2 ATTEMPTS OF NOFAP FOR 45 DAYS - NOW I WAS SURE.

Early in September i relapsed due to fears of correlation between abstinence and prostate health but thats another story :D I will go for 90 days now I hope...

SO TO SUM IT UP...MY ADVICE FOR YOU IF YOU FEAR THAT YOU HAVE VENOUS LEAK IS :
1. DONT SEARCH OR LOOK FOR IT IN GOOGLE - ITS VERY SCARY INFORMATION AND WILL SURELY GET YOU DEPRESSED. IT GOT ME FOR ABOUT 5 MONTHS.

2. THERE IS NO LINK BETWEEN VENOUS LEAK AND VARICOCELE, VEINS ON PENIS SKIN, MONDORS DISEASE AND HEMOROIDS (some guy on a forum posted that if u have varicocele and hemoroids + veins on legs(i have them all) you have 100% venous leak- this is bullshit)

3. MOST IMPORTANT - IF YOUR MORNING WOOD GETS BACK THEN YOU DONT HAVE VENOUS LEAK REMEMBER THAT !!!! YOU HAVE PIED

4. PIED SYMPTOMS ARE SAME WITH VENOUS LEAK

5. YOU ARE BORN WITH LEAK EXCEPT YOU GET IN A CAR CRASH WITH A HUGE HIT IN GROIN WHICH LEADS TO EMERGENCY ROOM

In conclusion - this society really saved my life (i was seriously suicidal). I dont have words to describe the way I feel after the journey - it really helps mind and body and deserves to try. I want to thank everyone here u guys really lift me up.

This is the first time I post here and the goal of this article is to help everybody who challenges the fear of having venous leak and to proove that YOU DONT HAVE IT. All you need to do is to give yourself some time and enjoy the results. THANK YOU !!!
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futuredentist said:
I got them from lifting very heavy deadlifts in the gym (which was stupid but I was only 14 and not educated and listened to some dumb meatheads in the local gym)...they dont cause me any problems - no bleeding, no pain, no itchness but I feel them as several soft lumps around my anal opening and have anxiety.
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Hi, futuredentist. I have EXACTLY THE SAME symptoms as you, mate. I can have a good solid erection while laying on my bed but when I stand up.. it dies in seconds. If I stop touching my dick, my erection goes away not as quick as when I stand up but it starts to get flaccid. Here's all my symptoms..

Symptoms:

-Weak erections (maintained if manually stimulated. Though there are some days when I have very strong erections and just a tiny stimulation is enough to maintain them)
-Erection goes away if there's no manual stimulation
- No morning woods or very few and at 50% at max
- No random erections through the day
- Position dependant ED
-Sometimes I lose my erection while penetrating and I have to manually stimulate my dick to get erect and keep having sex (I repeat this process all the times it happens)
- Can't get or maintain an erection by only visual stimulation. I can get engorged to like 30-40% but If I don't touch my dick, no full erection is achieved. I MUST touch it.

So I think I have venous leak tbh. I went to my urologist and he suggested me to get a Doppler Ultrasound test to see if I have venous leak. Don't know what to do because you say you got cured by doing NoFap, right? He also suggested me NoFap and to take Cia lis 5mg (which works fine and I can have normal sex).

4 years ago, another urologist told me I maybe had Varicocele in my left testicle. I was checked by a Dr. and he said everything was fine. Now it kinda hurts a bit but ver randonmly and 95% of the time there's no pain. I feel a thicker vein compared to my right testicle so I'll get a testicular Doppler to check if I have Varicocele now.

So mate, you say there's no correlation between Varicocele and Venous Leak, right? Are you sure? And yeah, I also read that guy who said if you have Varicocele and veins on your legs, you definitely have Venous Leak. I really wish I don't have VL nor Varicocele.

I had an spermogram (at the same time as my testicular doppler) and I didn't have Teratozoospermia. All my spermatozoids were healthy and fine (98% of them. Only 2% were deformed an things like that) but my sperm count was low. He said Oligospermia so I don't know what to do.

Should I just do NoFap? I got harder erections when I stopped masturbating for a week. I have to say that I've been masturbating since I was 13-14yo so I don't know if my issue is PIED or something else.

Hope you can help me here, man.

Thanks in advance. Your post gave me hope!
 
Hey brother!

Unfortunatelly I returned back to abusing my penis and ruined my progess. I dont think guys with VL can have sex...Im not experienced much with sex. Just saying that bullshit websites gave me crazy fear.

Today I think of trying NoFap again - so why dont you try again to see, but this time lets try longer time. If you want we can text private messeges to check sometimes because I see that YOUR PROBLEMS ARE EXACTLY THE SAME AS MINE - ALL OF THEM

I think that we are just too used to fapping so our bodies no longer need erection as a random process.
I start today. Text me in private to check progress if you want
 
Rebel A. said:
Hi, futuredentist. I have EXACTLY THE SAME symptoms as you, mate. I can have a good solid erection while laying on my bed but when I stand up.. it dies in seconds. If I stop touching my dick, my erection goes away not as quick as when I stand up but it starts to get flaccid. Here's all my symptoms..

Symptoms:

-Weak erections (maintained if manually stimulated. Though there are some days when I have very strong erections and just a tiny stimulation is enough to maintain them)
-Erection goes away if there's no manual stimulation
- No morning woods or very few and at 50% at max
- No random erections through the day
- Position dependant ED
-Sometimes I lose my erection while penetrating and I have to manually stimulate my dick to get erect and keep having sex (I repeat this process all the times it happens)
- Can't get or maintain an erection by only visual stimulation. I can get engorged to like 30-40% but If I don't touch my dick, no full erection is achieved. I MUST touch it.

So I think I have venous leak tbh. I went to my urologist and he suggested me to get a Doppler Ultrasound test to see if I have venous leak. Don't know what to do because you say you got cured by doing NoFap, right? He also suggested me NoFap and to take Cia lis 5mg (which works fine and I can have normal sex).

4 years ago, another urologist told me I maybe had Varicocele in my left testicle. I was checked by a Dr. and he said everything was fine. Now it kinda hurts a bit but ver randonmly and 95% of the time there's no pain. I feel a thicker vein compared to my right testicle so I'll get a testicular Doppler to check if I have Varicocele now.

So mate, you say there's no correlation between Varicocele and Venous Leak, right? Are you sure? And yeah, I also read that guy who said if you have Varicocele and veins on your legs, you definitely have Venous Leak. I really wish I don't have VL nor Varicocele.

I had an spermogram (at the same time as my testicular doppler) and I didn't have Teratozoospermia. All my spermatozoids were healthy and fine (98% of them. Only 2% were deformed an things like that) but my sperm count was low. He said Oligospermia so I don't know what to do.

Should I just do NoFap? I got harder erections when I stopped masturbating for a week. I have to say that I've been masturbating since I was 13-14yo so I don't know if my issue is PIED or something else.

Hope you can help me here, man.

Thanks in advance. Your post gave me hope!
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futuredentist said:
So it all started in December 2018 when I was diagonosed with left sided varicocele and got really depressed. In March 2019 I noticed that my erection got weaker and when I stand up it goes away in seconds. I couldnt remeber the last time i had morning wood (thought its a myth).

In April I decided to try NoFap in order to lift my mind and get better erections. A lot of relapses...

After 1-2 weeks abstinence i got my first morning erection but they werent full (Im a perfectionist) so i decided to get more serious. Still losing erection when standing up...only get them when i lie on my back. That was the time I started to search my symptoms online and found about VENOUS LEAK - a huge mistake.

NEVER GOOGLE YOUR SYMPTOMS NO MATTER WHAT PART OF BODY IT IS - IT IS A TRAP

So i fell in the trap of thinking i have venous leak for months. Weak erections, flaccid head, position depended ED, losing with no manual stimulation...even watching porn couldnt get me up. I dont get sponatneous erections except weak morning wood for months.

In July after a 47 day streak i relapsed due to spermogram and following varicocele surgery. At that time i get morning erections OFTEN but they arent maximum strong.

I started my second serious streak in July and at 35 day i get my first maximal 100% erection sitting on my bed by chatting with a girl online - thats some progress finally.
I get great morning erections and very strong ones by talking to girls and chatting but still no spontaneous and soft erections when standing on my legs.

Everybody says that having morning wood means no erectile problems but I was still in the fear of venous leak.

In the end of August, one night i was looking at a pic of a girl and got really hard. I decided to get on my knees and check my erection in that position - it remained with no physical stimulation. At that moment I got up and standed still for some time but it kept full with NO touching. THAT WAS THE MAGICAL MOMENT FOR ME WHEN I REALISED I HAD NO VENOUS LEAK FOR SURE ! AFTER 2 ATTEMPTS OF NOFAP FOR 45 DAYS - NOW I WAS SURE.

Early in September i relapsed due to fears of correlation between abstinence and prostate health but thats another story :D I will go for 90 days now I hope...

SO TO SUM IT UP...MY ADVICE FOR YOU IF YOU FEAR THAT YOU HAVE VENOUS LEAK IS :
1. DONT SEARCH OR LOOK FOR IT IN GOOGLE - ITS VERY SCARY INFORMATION AND WILL SURELY GET YOU DEPRESSED. IT GOT ME FOR ABOUT 5 MONTHS.

2. THERE IS NO LINK BETWEEN VENOUS LEAK AND VARICOCELE, VEINS ON PENIS SKIN, MONDORS DISEASE AND HEMOROIDS (some guy on a forum posted that if u have varicocele and hemoroids + veins on legs(i have them all) you have 100% venous leak- this is bullshit)

3. MOST IMPORTANT - IF YOUR MORNING WOOD GETS BACK THEN YOU DONT HAVE VENOUS LEAK REMEMBER THAT !!!! YOU HAVE PIED

4. PIED SYMPTOMS ARE SAME WITH VENOUS LEAK

5. YOU ARE BORN WITH LEAK EXCEPT YOU GET IN A CAR CRASH WITH A HUGE HIT IN GROIN WHICH LEADS TO EMERGENCY ROOM

In conclusion - this society really saved my life (i was seriously suicidal). I dont have words to describe the way I feel after the journey - it really helps mind and body and deserves to try. I want to thank everyone here u guys really lift me up.

This is the first time I post here and the goal of this article is to help everybody who challenges the fear of having venous leak and to proove that YOU DONT HAVE IT. All you need to do is to give yourself some time and enjoy the results. THANK YOU !!!
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I have all of the listed symptoms and even made the mistake of Googling my symptoms. I’m holding out on my NoFap/reboot journey until times are easier and I’m able to visit a doctor. I want to make sure that it’s absolutely nothing else but PIED.
 
Silent Eyes said:
I have all of the listed symptoms and even made the mistake of Googling my symptoms. I’m holding out on my NoFap/reboot journey until times are easier and I’m able to visit a doctor. I want to make sure that it’s absolutely nothing else but PIED.
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Just perform NoFap as long as you can - today I started day 1 - text me to motivate each other - Im sure its PIED and not VL but Im still scared even after that. We need a rest from fapping. I think the problem is not porn (Im not addicted) - we are just used to the fapping act and body doesnt feel natural to have random boners or libido
 
Hey guys I'm new here, for a week now I've been struggling to get an erection upwards when laying on my back. It just points to my abdomen instead of pointing to the ceiling , later on I found that I cant maintain an erection and I fear its venous leak, I'm googling these symptoms and unsurprisingly all I've found are very negative stuff that's getting to me.
PS, haven't tried NoFap yet
 
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