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Circumcision Trauma and PMO Addiction

Discussion in 'Porn Addiction' started by PMO addict, Apr 27, 2018.

  1. PMO addict

    PMO addict Fapstronaut

    Hi everyone, I have got comfortable enough on the forums that I thought I'd share this. Before you think its off topic, and want it removed, please take the time to read it. It shows how some of our PMO addictions might have formed and how to address it.

    The next quote from the article talks about how neonatal infant circumcision causes PTSD. And PTSD is often linked to the formation of any addiction, including a PMO addiction.
    The next quotation lists the common symptoms they found, a lot of which seem to be conditions that can lead many people to use addictions. Please note the first point, "a sense of personal powerlessness", which is a hall mark of the addict's experience. Maybe it is taught to us on the cutting table.

    And if you feel like this is "ridiculous" or "too extreme" then please read this part:

    I think this will help people give some answers.

    Here is the link to the article. Its in spoiler tags BECAUSE. It is a parenting web site and the top banner shows a baby suckling on a breast. This might be triggering to some people, even though it is not pornographic content. So consider loading the page without images or just blocking the banner with your hand before you scroll down to the text. There is MUCH MORE writing in the article, as well as links to all the studies and sources.



    Thanks :)
     
  2. Fix_It_Mate

    Fix_It_Mate Fapstronaut

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    I'm sorry this happened to you.

    I think it's a gross procedure and should be illegal to perform on boys unless absolutely medically necessary. It's a clear double standard against men that almost nobody talks about and I can see why guys who went through it would experience some of those thoughts/feelings you've listed.

    Have you looked at restoring? Might help to get the appearance and some of the sensitivity back, but I've heard it's a long process.

    Most importantly, if you ever have a son, make sure the cycle ends with you.
     
  3. PMO addict

    PMO addict Fapstronaut

    Thanks. The cycle definitely ends with me. I tried restoring once but it was during a NoFap streak. And I got urges to fap from it. (It felt similar to fapping to me) So right now I'm just addressing the psychological element of the trauma
     
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  4. Thank you for posting this. Something like this is easily forgotten about because it is a shame to admit weakness in the male ego. However, it was not your fault. It was done out of ignorance of the consequences from such a procedure. The loss of those nerve endings is the big blow.
     
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  5. PMO addict

    PMO addict Fapstronaut

    Yay! Thanks btwiseman. If I could give you TEN likes I would. It means a lot to me all the positive reception about sharing this :)
     
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  6. rebootpl0x

    rebootpl0x Fapstronaut

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    I'm circumcised and never really thought about it deeply until a couple years ago. When I did I shed a couple tears, just thinking how I literally had my phallus mutilated as a baby, and it may never be the way it was intended to be... I agree the process should be illegal.

    I've also heard in some places in the middle east, females have their clitoris clipped as a child (AKA Female Genital Mutilation ), so they feel no sexual sensations when having sex. WTF is wrong with people.
     
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  7. Fascinating find, PMO Addict! Thanks! I'm circumcised and I was never happy about that through my life but never considered the infant trauma aspect of it. Circumcision is mutilation, period! FGM in the Middle East is a crime against humanity. That would be the equivalent of the head of my penis being lobbed off! And there is an immense amount of nerve endings in the foreskin. Therefore, I never experienced an orgasm to the degree that nature intended me to have.
     
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  8. Cutting on the penis of an un-anaesthetized baby - what an utterly barbaric thing. That should be a war crime.
     
  9. Agreed. Cutting off part of the penis is unforgivable "unless absolutely medically necessary." I would be traumatised! :(
     
  10. Fix_It_Mate

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    It's all sickening. I will never understand how people can look at any innocent child and decide to hack off parts of them they don't like.

    There's been a bill introduced in Iceland's parliament to ban it on children under 18. Unfortunately looks like it might be dismissed this time around on the grounds of "religious freedom", but hopefully it gets people talking and thinking about it so that it eventually gets banned.
     
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  11. rebootpl0x

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    Don't even get me started on Metzitzah B'peh... Feel free to google it...
     
  12. Money.

    Sounds too simple? Not really.

    First, the hospital/doctor charge about $350 to $500 for the procedure. Even if the doctor is on salary and doing the genital cutting is just "extra work for no pay", the doctor's pay check comes from the hospitals budget. The budget gets more money with more genital cutting.

    Then, the hospital can sell the "donated" infant foreskin to pharmaceutical companies for about $1000 to $1500 each. The paper work the parents sign for the circ is also permission to "donate" the foreskin.

    The only good news here is that some of those foreskins are used to make skin grafts for burn patients. The DNA is washed out and a skin scaffolding is created. Only infant foreskin can be used, adult foreskins won't grow. One infant foreskin can make about a football field size of skin grafts. Which sell for about $75 per square centimeter. So, yeah, lots of profit.

    It's been estimated that the circumcision industry in the United States makes about $40 billion a year in profit. From the device manufacturers to hospitals, every baby boy born doesn't have a foreskin, they have $2,000.00 on the end of their penis that can be clipped off and cashed in.

    But the good news. Federal Law in the United States provides for 5 years in prison for anyone cutting an infants genitals. The bad news, it's only for girls. Boys are fair game.
     
  13. If the psychological effects are true then it would explain a lot about why I am the way I am. Thanks for sharing.
     
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  14. PMO addict

    PMO addict Fapstronaut

    Yay rebootpl0x :) At least you are in a better place than all those who deny it. Hearing that you feel bad about being circed too is helpful to me in some weird way. I mean I would rather no one was circed at all. But once its done I'd rather hear people who acknowledge the harm with empathy than those why deny it :)
     
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  15. PMO addict

    PMO addict Fapstronaut

    Yay itlookslikeimbrokenbeyondrepair! I'm happy that you resonate with it... That might sound weird? I've been dealing with circ trauma for years now. So I guess when I can "spread the word" and other people seem to resonate with it it makes me happy. It is so terrible that when we were being circed, the doctors ignored our cries... So now when we acknowledge each others pain it has a healing effect I think.

    If its brand new to you and you need any help coping with any grief/memories that may arise. I am willing to support you! :) It is tough but I think it's where the real healing is at.
     
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  16. Continue spreading the word and thanks for taking the time to make everyone else aware about the problem and no it doesn't sound weird that we can resonate with each other's pain... so thank you for starting this thread.
     
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  17. Summer Son

    Summer Son Fapstronaut

    There is another topic here about this issue:

    https://www.nofap.com/forum/index.p...ed-men-less-likely-to-masturbate.64213/page-3

    I was circumcised about age of 7 and I can't compare if I had uncut sex or masturbation is different. But I hate this religious traditions. It is almost standart for Turkey. I had no choice about it I was just a little kid. And that days, what they did you know? In this place, urologists do this job, also there are some men for do this job they called "Circumciser". Yeah, they took certificate for this job from the government. And people celebrate this after circumcision. My parents offered me for this, should we make a celebrate it? I answered: "Why we celebrate for this, this is bullshit!" Why do people celebrates for cutting pieces? My parents are conservative muslims by the way. And that's not enough, I'm an atheist who carries the name of "Muhammed" This is an Muslim Arabic name and I finally add my another name after 19 years, it is more modern and secular. The other name is still stays my identify card and I can't change it totally because of my father. He said me if I do it he adopt me.My biggest mistake was born in here I think. If I chance to choose for it I never select this place. I want to be free...
     
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  18. PMO addict

    PMO addict Fapstronaut

    Hey Summer Son. Thanks for the other thread. Yeah, circumcision is BS.

    I appreciate the sentiment of not choosing to be here. Yes, me neither. Have you heard of "soul recycling"? Whole nother topic. But the point is to become conscious when we die, and avoid being pulled into the soul recycling matrix. Don't sign any more contracts to live in a human body. This physical world is where they trap our soul to harvest our energy. It is not even real.
     
  19. rebootpl0x

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    This is only true in monotheistic religions - you give all of your energy to "God". You should work on advancing yourself through meditation so you can become your own God, like our Ancient Gods such as Zeus etc. Some sects of Hinduism is a great place to start, although it still has some corruptions from over the last couple thousand years.
     
  20. PMO addict

    PMO addict Fapstronaut

    Interesting thanks. I am not a fan of most modern mainstream religions. Something feels wrong about it.
     
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