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  1. It can be defeated

    It can be defeated Fapstronaut

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    I am not sure if i should reboot. I set myself to not watch porn and masturbation for 7 days and I am now on day 5. I found myself browsing sexy pictures of women on instagram (ex. Leggings, twerk) then I visited a porn video but immediately exited out without watching it since it was still in the loading process. Does this count as a reboot?. I am new to Nofap.
     
  2. ben_nofap_uk

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    I wouldn't count it as a reboot as you didn't MO (masturbate to orgasm). Be aware of your triggers and stay strong pal! Keep up the good fight :cool:
     
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    It can be defeated Fapstronaut

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    Thank you so much
     
  4. PostiveChange1974

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    I agree, it doesn't count. Sounds like you exercised will power, even though you were tempted, so you should feel good about it. Stay strong.

    If you had done this for hours....yes. It's the same thing, even if you didn't masturbate. (and you would need to reset).

    If you had masturbated, even if you didn't orgasm, (yes) it's the same thing (and you would need to reset).
     
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  5. It can be defeated

    It can be defeated Fapstronaut

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    I feel such an urge to go back and watch the porn video idk why but I feel like I may relapse, what should I do?
     
  6. PostiveChange1974

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    First: Breath. Most likely you're feeling tense. Tense because you want something, and tense because you're fighting giving into it.
    There is a great website for mediation (https://www.headspace.com). You can get started for free, with a 10 minute session. You might try going through that to see if you can 'calm yourself'.

    Next stay strong. Don't think about tomorrow, or anything else. Just think about now, this second. Just say, 'I'm not going to do this now.'

    Next, have you ever tried kegels? It's an exercise to strengthen parts which are used in your erections. I find the sensation comforting (relaxing), but it does leave me a little more sensitive. Research has shown that it can help with sexual function, but some have found that it helps with tension while they are doing a reboot (http://www.webmd.com/urinary-incontinence-oab/kegel-exercises-treating-male-urinary-incontinence)

    The best advice though is to get out, and be with friends. Boredom and feeling lonely can heighten the feelings. At the minimum if possible go for a walk of about 30 minutes. But doing an online game with friends, or just hanging out with someone, all can very much help.

    At the minimum, reward yourself with something else. Sometimes while we are doing a reboot, we feel like we are denying our-self anything pleasurable. We feel miserable, because we think we are blocking our happiness. It can be important to do something that you really enjoy so that you are not feeling like there is no joy. Eating a desert slowly, or a really tasty meal, or some other reward like activity that you love can bring your spirits back up.

    We are routing for you. You are not alone and we all feel what you do. Do you have an accountability partner? Might reach out to them.
     
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  7. It can be defeated

    It can be defeated Fapstronaut

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    I appreciate your response truly, the urge has calmed now since it comes in whenever I even think about the thumbnail picture. I will try because I am tired of relapsing so much that i can't even get by 7 days without porn and masturbation. The reason the video is so appealing to me is because it's my type of video that i enjoy masturbating too but I definitely know that it will strike me at night like it always does. I don't want to be a slave to my own desires I want to put an end to it but 7 days is my objective then 40 days then 90. But if I relapse I feel like I'm weak but at this moment I feel good with no temptation or simply me wanting it. Thanks for your encouraging words I will definitely saved them for future use.
     
  8. PostiveChange1974

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    I don't know if this will help or not, but you might focus on how quickly the individual excitement for a video fades....

    If you're like me, I had 20-50 videos I would scroll through in my PMO sessions. I'm 42, and added up my time watching, and had concluded that I had in fact seen over 1millions video clips. (And that isn't an exaggeration).

    I've found that if I watched that video, then tried to come back to the same one in the same day, it didn't excite me. Only the really powerful ones might last longer, and even they lost they power over me in 2 or 3 days. It might be exciting to me if I returned back to it in a week or a month, but it again would loose interest.

    This might be a leap, but think of it this way. That video you want badly, is an impulse. It's an impulse if you gave into would have zero value to you tomorrow. Think of an impulse as a flash of light that once it's gone there is no evidence it was there, and meant nothing. If that doesn't work, focus on the fact that in our modern world, porn is eternal. It will always be there, and no video is ever really lost. If you don't give into the impulse, the video won't disappear, it will still be there. There is no immediacy attached to this, other than your impulse.

    Another way to see this (and I've found it works in loosing weight), don't think of this as doing without, but delaying gratification. If you can make it, and in 7 days you still think about that video, watch it. If you can't make 7 days, then start with a smaller number. (If you are seriously having problems with a reboot, then don't try to do this going cold for as long as you can). Instead, try saying, I'm going to wait Xdays, and then I will allow myself to enjoy. When you enjoy, keep the enjoyment to that one day only (no binges), and start the next wait period (in another Xdays, I can enjoy).

    (I don't know what your goal for NoFap is. Some people come because they feel Porn seriously is taking up their life, and they want to quit (impulse control), others like myself, feel like we've used porn so long that it's numbed us to the point where real sex isn't good (desensitization, PIED). If the only issue is that you feel it's taking up your life, then Porn isn't the evil you have to work on. It's your ability to master your self control. What I'm trying to say, while reboots might eventually help you kick Porn entirely, don't feel bad with a plan to get healthy based on using porn (delaying gratification). Just be clear what your goal is. (For example, if you found you could go 5 days, then do a reboot cycle, where you allow yourself PMO every 5 day, for one month. (No binges, and PMO has to be limited to just that day). At the end of the month, test yourself, and see if you can go 6 or 7 days. If so, do a reboot with a month of waiting every 7 days. If you can't, go back to another month of only going every 5 days. (then retest). In that kind of plan, when the urge hits, just think, "not today, but Saturday", and the next day "not today, but tomorrow". It can make a big difference, because you're not telling yourself 'no', but instead 'later'. It allows you to make changes, with more permanence, over longer periods of your life.

    I don't want to discourage you from a 90 day reboot. I know from personal experience that frequent use of porn will lead you to not dealing with issues in your lifestyle, and hinder you from having a full relationship with a partner. So I applaud you no matter why you are here, and encourage you to get Porn out of your life. Still it's often helpful to clarify exactly why you want to do a thing. Write it down. Even carry it as a promise to yourself in your wallet (or post it in the forum as journal). Once you do that, pick a goal that can be easily attained, to work towards. (I am doing this now with NoFap, but I have successfully used this to lose 50 pounds, and to go from not able to stand up straight to being able to deadlift 450 pounds.)
     
  9. It can be defeated

    It can be defeated Fapstronaut

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    Thank you for your support. I am proud that I got through the 7 days but unfortunately I relapsed today because of that impulse you mentioned. I kept on thinking about what that video may be about which led me to plan my own relapse. I found out that the even smallest sexy stuff can spark a light and lead me relapse. I did notice that after I finished it, I no longer felt interest with that particular porn star. I honestly want to break free from watching porn and masturbation and I truly don't want to waste your time. I believe that your story has motivated me to stop since I realized that there are a lot of people out there who are in a more serious state than I am now. Every other night my body craves more which has also led me to give my electronics to my sister for the night so I won't watch any but this time it was all just for that one video or videos. But I need to learn to stop playing with fire or that fire will burn me in the future to the point that I will no longer be able to feel real intimacy with my future partner. Thank you for your time
     

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