Curing same-sex attraction

Discussion in 'Problematic Sexual Behavior' started by jack_hammer, Feb 24, 2020.

  1. AtomicTango

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    So first you say this,

    Then you say this,

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  2. ultrafabber

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    It can be changed. Patient b19. Then there are serotonin manipulated mice that changed their sexuai interest. Then all the molested kids that turned out gay at a rate of 2x to 30x higher than non-molested kids.
     
  3. Lol
     
  4. Hocd is not a change of your sexual orientation lol, if you are gay, then you are gay period.
     
  5. If you equals one’s favorite porn genre to his sexuality, then you are mistaken.
     
  6. AtomicTango

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    What does this have to do with what I said? You're kinda contradicting yourself with every post you make. I honestly dont even understand what your position is anymore.
     
  7. Are you trolling? No one said that sexual orientation changed through PMO. We're talking about HOCD.
     
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  8. Lol what do you mean? Generally speaking porn is a bad indicator of one’s sexuality.
    hocd doesn’t change your sexuality either.
     
  9. I don’t get you either. My point here, is that you cannot change your sexuality. Hocd or pmo doesn’t change it.
     
  10. AtomicTango

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    But that isnt what anyone here is saying. Like @ivanhoe said, we are talking about SEXUAL TASTES and PORN INDUCED FETISHES.
     
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  11. ultrafabber

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    Yes you can. Stop repeating things you have no clue on. Again:

    It can be changed. Patient b19. Then there are serotonin manipulated mice that changed their sexuai interest. Then all the molested kids that turned out gay at a rate of 2x to 30x higher than non-molested kids.

    Any sexual orientation aside from heterosexuality is acquired or results from a malfunction.

    There are people sexually attracted to dead copses, animals and even objects like cars or bridges.

    You can be sexually attracted to anything.
     
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  12. Aren’t you a dude, who is always saying that jerking off is gay?
     
  13. Gotcha, well I guess one’s porn tastes may change over time cuz of the abusive porn use, but the sexuality per se doesn’t change.
     
  14. ultrafabber

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    You're ignoring anything that goes against your narrative. Not a surprise. Tell us more about baseless assumptions that "sexuality can not be changed".
     
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  15. Why gay conversion therapy never works then?
     
  16. that is not what people who have successfully done it have said. Again, where do you get your information?
    If there are testaments out there that say it doesn't work , fine, there are also people who say they did change.. are they lying? why do you believe one and not the other?
     
  17. Rusername

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    I believe sexuality can be changed too. I mean, its tied to chemicals on brain and body, those are physical things which we can manipulate. It would be absurd to assume that sexual orientation cant be changed under no circumstances? Im taking about aby possibility you can imagine hetero -> homo, homo -> bi, or whatever you think of.

    Question is, should we do that?
    Conservatives might be tempted to experiment on that, they often view homo/bi/pansexuality as sin. Liberals assume that since source of pain for many LGBT people comes from lack of acceptance from the society, therefore problem is not their sexuality, but societal pressure. I agree with liberals here.

    However there are some cases on which i would recommend trying to change one's sexuality. For instance hypogonadism may lead to sudden change of sexual orientation and giving testosterone heals that. Sexual abuse, mentioned above is another instance where i would assume trying to help individual rather than accept his/her condition.

    Some time ago we were extremely conservative on this case. Today we are too liberal. People, especially lgbt are scared that someones "sexual orientation" can be effect of sexual abuse or hormonal problems. That would cast shadow on sexual minorities, causing uncomfortable questions being asked.

    Peace.
     
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  18. even the LGBT community recognizes fluidity - 'born that way' was something that had to be believed for political reasons when LGBT groups were pushing for rights.. if they are 'born that way' then you were discriminating against someone for who they are and not their behavior...

    There are instances of men who had sex change therapy who thought they were gay and when the became 'women' they decided they were lesbians.. one theory was the drugs they were taking changed the chemical balance.
     
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  19. a few years ago the psychiatrist who helped remove homosexuality as a disorder concluded that it did work - he published a paper, though he quickly retracted it after heavy pressure from his peers and 'recanted' - but this was likely because of political and industry pressure.
     
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  20. How is being gay a disorder?
     

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