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Day 11: Thoughts About Porn & Fantasies

Discussion in 'Porn Addiction' started by diesel2256, Apr 6, 2014.

  1. diesel2256

    diesel2256 Fapstronaut

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    Since my journey started some 11 days ago, my desire to view porn has fallen exponentially. Before I started this, I probably watched about an hour a day and was unable to get off without it. That being said, something really changed for me while reading a post on Return Of Kings. Essentially, the post was about an ex porn star who had been with over 500 guys that decided to start a family with a “good guy” and have kids. She had no shame and a whole lot of excuses. That kid is going to have one hell of a time, especially considering that videos of his mother being gang banged are all over the web.

    What if she was my mother? What if you were viewing pornography and saw your mother or sister being treated like that? What if everyone had seen the hundreds of videos of her acting like that?

    I think one of the most damaging parts of pornography is that we fantasize about some really horrible things. Did I actually want to do those things to women? Absolutely not. In fact, when I would hear about it happening to a girl I knew, it would send me into a primal rage. I wanted to physically hurt the perpetrator. Yet, here I was, spending hundreds of hours a year fantasizing about doing the same things.

    A while back, I talked to an ex of mine who was recently married – she found out that her husband had been part of running a train on a particular girl. My initial reaction was that of being disgusted, and sorrow for her choosing a guy that had been part of such depravity. Incidentally, group settings where there are multiple guys on a single woman was my favorite kind of porn. Talk about mental inconsistency. One part of me wanted to brutalize women, the other to protect them. Maybe my rational was that “porn isn't real,” but it is real – what you're watching actually happened to someone's mother or daughter.

    I wasn't being honest with myself. I was two-faced. The weight of my sick fantasies spilled into my contacts with women on every level, especially when trying to get dates. In my head it was “Hey, I'm a good guy with my act mostly together, I'd make a great potential partner... who gets excited thinking about women getting sexually assaulted and treated like slaves.” I was ashamed of my fantasies to the place of feeling like I shouldn't even be trying to pick up women because of my toxicity.

    Even now, I can hear my brain rationalizing, “So just don't think about horrible things. You can watch softcore and be fine.” Nope. Not according to science. As stated other places on this forum, your brain always wants something new, something more extreme. I started on softcore stuff. I've tried not going off the deep end, but once you're in that state of arousal, putting the brakes on is impossible. My father used to say, “if you play near the edge, you'll eventually fall off.” Edging, softcore, the swimsuit edition of Sports Illustrated, some Facebook pages, ect. is playing near the edge for me. I might not immediately fall off and return to PMO, but in time, I most certainly would.

    I've lived with enough shame. I'm sick of it. These last days have been mentally pleasant in that I have nothing to hide. It's easier to look my mother in the eyes when she talks to me. I don't feel shame when checking out women in real life. I'm becoming less of a monster every day.
     
  2. the7RAYS

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    Thank you for sharing this magnificent post.

    If nobody watched that depravity, there would be no market for it and it would stop.
     
  3. iwanttobemyoldselfagain

    iwanttobemyoldselfagain Fapstronaut

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    You are ao completely accurate about this. This kind of crap was the excuse my brain used to give me too. Softcore is just the path rostart on the hard stuff aagain. And if youlisten to your instinct, you might never be able to recover.
    You are gaining something so important back instead: the respect for yourself in your own eyes and the ability to respect women again. Keep going, stay strong buddy.
     
  4. Cojax

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    I can truly relate To what you say about the feelings of shame. Before I started Reading about my addictive brain I had no clue that is what hapens To most porn addicts,
    You have To see more heavy stuff Than before.
    I try To look at it like this: the reason I got hooked on porn I would never considering doing in real life is because it simply deep down inside disgust me, that is why the brain got so addicted To it, the more disgusted or shocked you get: the more dopamine. Meaning, what you got aroused To is truly the things you are disgusted To in real life. If it did not shock you or make you feel disgusted you would probably not get so aroused. So that is how it works, you are deep down a good Guy and so am I!;)
     
  5. Xwin

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    Great post. I am almost 9 days into the journey and as the mental fog disappears I can finally see what sort of discusting stuff I used to watch. The distance between the real me and the P addict is just unbelievable. Although I would never do such things to a woman (ANY woman), my search keywords indicate otherwise.

    I see a patter - an out-of-control escalation to more and more violent types of P. One of the reasons for me to start a nofap journey was that I was afraid for those fantasies to get into my real life.

    back in the day, when P was practically out of reach for teenagers, peuple would fap and then grow out of it. It would be virtually impossible to get hooked on all that hardcore stuff. Now it's literally 3 clicks away! Some stuff that 10-15 years ago would be considered to be on the border of legality.
     
  6. diesel2256

    diesel2256 Fapstronaut

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    It's interesting how things begin to change inside your mind as time goes on abstaining from PMO. I never spent much time thinking about the damage caused by those fantasies until I was clean. I worshipped at the church of PMO and refused to look at the realities of it.

    I'm still dealing with strong desires to MO, but at least the P side is fading.
     
  7. Soul Cage

    Soul Cage Fapstronaut

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    Awesome post, thank you, I totally agree. Respect for sharing your deep views.
    I too want to become less of a monster each day.

    Often in daily life I might be holding conversation with someone I admire or respect... family, friend or co-worker etc. and I'm looking in their eyes, part of me is engaged but in what they are saying but now and then there is a little voice behind my mask and it says..... "they don't know it but you're a twisted masturbator, an uncontrollable pervert, a filthy degrader of women, if only they knew the things you do, and the things you think, you are not worthy"

    And that's a horrible way to treat yourself, who wants that, perhaps I should be more gentle on myself but there are aspects of myself that I want to better and I wouldn't be here if I didn't want that. All I know is that the further I go into PMO abstinence, the longer I can last, the more distance I am creating from that version of myself.
     
  8. diesel2256

    diesel2256 Fapstronaut

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    The fact that I can even talk about this is huge. In my past 28 years, this problem was so personal and of such a delicate nature that I kept it to myself. Maybe there really is something to confessing to your sins and putting it out in the open?

    I've even been working on my friends to convert to the NoFap way of life. Now there's something I didn't think was possible 2 weeks ago!
     

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