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Dealing with hateful emotions?

Discussion in 'Dating during a Reboot' started by Hisself, Aug 9, 2017.

  1. Hisself

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    So there's a girl I've been into for about a year. She was a major part of why I went on nofap. I was a pmo addict and she came up to me and introduced herself to me and it blew me away that she took interest in me. Fast forward to a few months ago when she became single we started hanging out regularly. One night we went to a show with a few people and wound up back at my house and I was too drunk to drive home so they spent the night. A different girl followed me to bed and we didn't do anything but I believe out of spite she hooked up with my best friend that night. The next day she started texting me though. She didn't know that I knew what happened but I blew her off because I was upset about it. I wanted to distance myself from her because I had feelings for her and didn't want them to grow. Fast forward about a month and she invites me to a show and we hookup. Then she claimed not to remember it after she got the impression that I wasn't into her. We were texting for months and the whole time I was holding back out of fear of rejection or being hurt by her. After talking for about 4 months and knowing each other for 2 years I finally told her I loved her and kissed her and held her hand and she responded well. She texted me as soon as she got home and same thing the next day. Then we don't talk for a few days and I get a message about how my personal hygiene is horrible and her friends complained to her and that she was "trying to be a good friend". I did not take it well but to her I handled it well it turns out that the girl I grew up with said the same thing behind my back and never told me and a few other girls I talked to after that said the same thing. It led me to a major drug relapse and I wound up throwing up in my sleep and am still in a pretty deep depression. It really bothers me that I tried to keep my distance from her for so long over fears of being rejected and I finally did and this happened. I have a lot of anger towards her now because she continuously approached me and now I have strong feelings for her that I was trying not to develop. It led me to a drug relapse and a minor porn and MO relapse after 9 months free of it. How do I deal with these hateful and angry feelings towards her?
     
  2. xXkiller42

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    Keep fighting, forget those jackasses and find someone who loves you for you. Don't give up man. Pray about it if you're christian or whatever religion you are.
     
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  3. Hisself

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    I'm not a Christian my friend but I appreciate the response nonetheless. The thing that makes it so hard is that everyone involved are my closest friends. They actually do have good intentions I just can't handle it well. They don't know how this has all affected me. This is something that has bothered me for weeks now and I can tell it will continue to bother me for a long time.
     
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  4. xXkiller42

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    Talk with them, If they don't support you than screw em, there's way better women out there who would be the best match for you other than her and those friends talking about you badly. Good luck man and you're welcome. :)
     
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  5. Hisself

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    The reason I am so into her is because I play in a band and she also plays music. We are both multi instrumentalists and she is highly intelligent and funny. She's 5 years older than me and attractive and approached me, she has always encouraged me and admired my music more than anyone else. She is totally unique and I've never met anybody like her. It's a toxic mix, I've never met a woman so talented in the same craft as me. The fact that she approached me at my lowest point of pmo addiction and kinda inspired me to stop is another reason why I have feelings for her. I just wish that I didn't have feelings for her. Wish I could just turn them off. We now play music together and have shows coming up so I have to somehow get past this but the more time that goes on the worse I feel and the farther apart we get and the worse this new drug addiction gets. I don't see these hateful feelings going anywhere anytime soon and I also don't see my feelings for her going anywhere. I kinda wish she never approached me or that I was able to keep my distance when I felt like that was the best move before catching feelings.
     
  6. xXkiller42

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    Yeah man i understand, Im in the same boat cause there's a girl I like for reasons and that are helping me stop and I haven't asked her yet. you can get through this man, I know you and anyone else who can put their mind to it can fight it.
     
  7. Hisself

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    Thanks, these kinda things stick with me for years. I never really get over them and that's why I'm feeling hateful, because one simple text someone sends me can stick with me forever and have a negative impact on me.
     
  8. Slothman

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    I grew hateful towards my grandmother, she pretty much made my life impossible when i lived with her, from making me go several times to the market to buy several things to yelling at me for being 'useless'. However there's more than eyes can see and memory remember, I found the root of my problem... Now that i think about it it's so clear right now.
    Everytime i saw her i thought to myself how much she was a pain in the ass, how much i hated her for being so annoying and mean...
    I moved out, with all those feelings killing me inside, dragging me behind making myself hate the world even more. That lead to depression and constant suicidal thoughts, they never stopped... Until i made them stop.

    You see, nobody has more power on yourself than you. I changed the way i looked at my grandmother, every time i heard of her i thought "I passed so many great times with her as a child" "She took care of me whenever i was sick" "She gave me food and a home" more sooner than later i found out it wasn't my grandmother's actions that made me hate her, but myself.
    Life will turn out to be the same color of the shades of your glasses. If you constantly look at the flaws of persons you will never like them, however if you look at the positives, at their good sides... Gratefulness, Kindness, Understanding, Patience and ultimately forgiveness will arise. They WILL overshadow all of those hard-hitting shitty emotions that once ruled you.

    You will be free from the prison you hid yourself.

    Good luck buddy I hope you find what you need in your journey.
     
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  9. xXkiller42

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    I hear ya man, I tend to forgive and forget, but that can be hard to a few so just try to forget it and just let it go cause it ain't gonna matter in the future when your married or with another girl
     
  10. Hisself

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    I'm stuck in this downward spiral now and don't even know if I want to forgive her. She doesn't even know I'm mad at her or how it affected me but it's really Fucking ruined my life and I know that's over dramatic but it's true. One text ruined my past month, I haven't been happy at all. I tried to keep my distance from her and she wouldn't let me. Now I regret everything I do, I can't fucking win. I try to stay away from catching feelings but she kept reeling me in until I finally showed interest and she winds up saying that she thought I smelled bad for like 6 months. I'm just thinking, then why the fuck have you been coming onto me for 4 months? Why! I didn't want it, I was doing so good on nofap and going to the gym. Now I have stronger feelings than I've ever had and yet again I'm afraid to open up to girls because it always goes terrible. I knew this shit would happen it's my fault really. Now because of that I relapsed on nofap after 9 months and have been on a month long drug binge that I thought I would never do again. Now I feel addicted angry and in love with someone I fucking hate now. I don't know what to do. I know this is dramatic but it's a month later and I'm only getting more upset as time goes on. I think about it and I just want to self destruct. I can't escape it.
     
  11. Infern0

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    Go no contact and next time you meet a girl you like dont wast months-years of your life messing around and not getting to the point.

    It's your fault you developed oneitis because you were not authentic, you didn't lead, and now again you are trying to diffuse responsibility by blaming her when you dithered, hesitated and got predictably rejected when you awkwardly blurted your feelings out.

    You told this girl you "loved" her?

    You don't, and you especially don't SAY that to some girl you are borderline friendzoned by.

    This sort of oneitis and fantisizing and getting hung up on women is just another distraction and form of addiction not dissimilar to PMO.

    Take it from someone who's been there.

    TAKE RESPONSIBILITY and learn from your mistakes.
     
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  12. Hisself

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    Well we have gigs coming up in front of hundreds of people that I can't back out of. It wasn't about me blurting my feelings out. She started texting me more than ever after that. And even after her negative text she continued texting me. I've just been keeping my distance because I have these hateful emotions towards her now because it led to relapses that I thought would never happen, I don't know how to deal with the negative feelings. As I said before she was the one who was always approaching me so it definitely was time to do something about it.
     
  13. Hisself

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    Also the reason I've been taking so long to "get to the point" is because I'm recovering from pied.
     
  14. Infern0

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    Girls will play around.

    I've had a similar experience to you, in fact even for me yes i was recovering from PIED and as a result i hesitated and messed things up with a girl i liked (who also had a crush on me at one point). But i can look back at it, see that it was my mistakes that messed it up kick myself and move on from it.

    And yes this girl was still messaging me 2 weeks after she tried to friendzone me and i told her I wasn't interested in that and to only contact me if she changed her mind. Still messaging, still inviting me to drinks with her.

    They will play games, it's on you to be the man, shut it down and move on. If you start behaving like that she MAY rethink her stance.

    If you HAVE to see her for these gigs, just be polite, keep interaction to a minimum and keep your cool. Don't be a dick to her but avoid ANY unnecessary communication with her. ANY.
     
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  15. Hisself

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    Yeah we're also going to have to rehearse for them too. It's also being professionally recorded so there's no fucking around. I'm not convinced she was trying to friendzone me but I have been keeping my distance as I said before. Not sure what more to do. Still wondering how to change my perspective and the hateful feelings I have now.
     
  16. Hisself

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    So why exactly do you say avoid any unnecessary communication? Genuinely curious.. when we talked about the personal hygiene thing that she confronted me about she said she wanted to show me a way to fold and organize my clothes and sent me info on where to get a mattress and the best vacuum and that she would give me cleaning supplies. That's why I'm not convinced she was friendzoning me. I'm confused and think she may genuinely be into me and wants me to be more "presentable" idk
     
  17. Hisself

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    Also I didn't say "I love you" I said love ya as I was getting out of the car playfully. Me telling her how I feel was more the fact that this song I wrote that she said she loved the lyrics to a few months ago was about her. And she seemed excited about it idk
     
  18. seekingabetterlife

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    Hmm read over your post here.

    What @Infern0 is getting at is that paying her less attention makes you more attractive. There's a common belief amongst dating experts (and maybe it's just something amongst guys who are more experienced.... not me as I'm not too experienced lol) that paying a girl you're communicating with less attention actually makes you appear less needy and more of a valuable partner since you are not as easily available/accessible.

    Check this out:



    I'm starting to get into Corey Wayne's stuff because I need some help with my dating life.

    I too experienced this with some girls at work. There'a a girl at work I think is semi into me... When I pay her attention she tends to not want to interact or talk as much. Paying her less attention makes her really open up with communication.

    About the hygiene thing, I think it's encouraging to see she tried to instruct you on folding clothes and other things. Maybe she is attracted to you but the hygiene thing is a bit of a turn off?? And she's trying to encourage you to be more hygienic without coming across as too blunt or making things awkward.

    Of course, I don't know you personally and cannot state whether the hygiene is a prob. However, if you heard it from her, and others are saying it, maybe look into things. Really, I'm not trying to come off as an a-hole or make you feel bad. I'm just trying to share what I believe might be helpful. Not sure what you can do to improve the hygiene?? Could be a deodorant just not working as well as it should or maybe she means the way you dress isn't what she'd consider "hygienically conscious". Who knows?? If she or anyone gave you hints on what they're talking about specifically I would strongly consider addressing it.

    One thing to consider, why not use this time to better yourself?? Take a hobby class on the side, meet new women, workout/diet more, change up your dress code, and/or change up your hairstyle? I mean.... we're all going to die someday. Might as well live this life to the best of your ability while you're here. For all you know you run into a better girl in the process of getting yourself more "together" for this one you really like.

    Another thing to think about, and I remind myself this often when feeling down about a past girl, there are billions of women in this world around your age. This is only "one". It's hard to think there aren't others out there that might be better suited for you. I know she is a musician like you but.... maybe you'll find someone who's into something even more attractive than music. Maybe you fall in love with a professional soccer player or actress? Who knows!!
     
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  19. Hisself

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    I'm going to watch that video and definitely appreciate what you are saying. I actually spent the night at another girls house the night before she sent the hygiene message. I met this random girl at a store by my work and she told me to wait til she got off work and then asked who's house we were going to. At the end of the night.. actually about 5 a.m before I walked home she asked me to be her boyfriend and I turned her down. All hope is not lost because after years of zero intimacy with women I've had 3 women grab my face and hook up with me since going on nofap. Every one of them was a friend for at least a year that never showed interest in me prior to nofap. I'm not into soccer players or actresses though. I play and write music and it's just what I do. I've been playing shows for years in different states, a lot of festivals. Met many talented women but none like her. I know it's rare and she just happens to live 10 minutes away from me.
     
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  20. Slothman

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    There's something in your comments that made me angry.
    Maybe it's the "I Love her" but then the several "I hate her"
    Maybe it's the "she told me i had bad hygiene" but if you think about it nobody says that WITHOUT a reason
    Maybe it's the fact you are shifting the blame about binging on drugs or your PMO relapse which you haven't updated which is totally your fault. Nobody pointed a gun in your head to do drugs or Fap.
    Maybe is your willingness to not forgive her for such stupid thing.
    Maybe is because you don't want to move on and forget her
    Maybe is because you want to hate someone, blame someone, feel like a victim and not take the responsibility for your actions.
    But you know i think it's because you gave up on yourself...

    Man the fuck up, Stop drugs, stop PMO and continue your path to success.
    "A Man can fail many times, but he isn't a failure until he begins to blame somebody else"
     
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