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Desensitization to porn but not to your SO?

Discussion in 'Partner Support' started by Deleted Account, Apr 28, 2020.

  1. It’s been 2 years now since I (27) created my account on NoFap because I was seeking advice for my boyfriend’s (23) behavior. Back then I was convinced that he had a porn addiction but there were always a few discrepancies that caused me to have doubts. Now for one thing that I would still like to make sense of, is it possible to be desensitized from too much porn but at the same time get a normal reaction when confronted with real stimuli? For example, when he still used to browse porn (he never really had a problem with excessive masturbation but rather just looking at porn), he did it so casually as if he was browsing the news, adding pictures of porn/breasts/asses/naked women to his phone’s “fap folder” and then just continue to play his video game or go to sleep with me or cook food with me, as if nothing happened. He could apparently look at arousing images without feeling physically and mentally triggered enough to act on them. But in all of that time he was doing that (behind my back) he never had an issue to easily get aroused from just looking at me or flirting with me or getting intimate with me. How does that make sense? Also another thing I could never make sense of and already posted about some time ago but without satisfying answers: he seems to be able to control the moment of climaxing. Especially when I perform oral sex on him, he seems to reach the point of "going over the edge" without any physical stimulation from me, whenever I'm about to get tired for example and he feels like now he should orgasm. It's like he can choose mentally when to make himself orgasm whenever he has already reached that point physically. I don't know if that makes sense. Could it be that watching porn trains the brain to control the moment of release, in order to look for more exciting videos/pictures to get more dopamine release without actually wanting the high to end by climaxing?
     
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  2. NCK

    NCK Fapstronaut

    Hey @AngelofDarkness. Interesting story. I have an addiction to PMO, and I can say that watching lots of Porn doesn't necessarily makes you desensitized to real stimuli. I myself have a girlfriend, and can have a pretty normal sex life, I started nofap more because of depression. I am new to the nofap forum, but before I joined I tried to abstain from PMO some times in the past, and my best streak was 40 days. I noticed that during those periods without Porn my relationship with my gf improved a lot. Sex didn't change much (from the physical point of view), but it felt much more intense and real, it became more emotional. I think when my brain is wired to Porn it treats sex as the way it's seen in Porn, as something violent, mechanical and emotionless. And as I get away from those views by abstaining I become more human and start treating sex as a human being, with more emotion, love and affection.
    About controlling the moment of climax, in my personal experience I am able to control it in most situations, but I don't do it anymore because the way I used to do it was if I wanted to climax I would close my eyes and fantasize about some Porn-related fetish, and that would make me get there pretty quickly, but I don't see that as a healthy practice, because it brings me back to porn.
    Does your boyfriend knows that you know all of this? Maybe you should just talk to him, it's usually the best thing to do.
     
  3. Psalm27:1my light

    Psalm27:1my light Fapstronaut

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    This sounds a lot like my husband when younger. Except he never saved images. He didn’t have problems with attraction until he was 45 and his use had escalated due to extreme stress in our life. He could always control his orgasms, now at a year and a half clean he’s not nearly so able to control when he orgasms.
     
  4. Psalm27:1my light

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    Are you wondering if he has an addiction now? I think the easiest way to tell is, have you asked him to stop? Did he just stop? Because if there isn’t an addiction, you asked him to stop, then why hadn’t he stopped? It really is that simple. Either you don’t matter enough to stop or he can’t. I asked my husband to not drink alcohol because it bothered me. He stopped. Porn has been much harder and he needed help in order to quit. Lots of help.
     
  5. Thank you for your reply, Nick, that was really helpful. This sounds very much like my boyfriend treating sex in the same way. And even though he has stopped watching porn (I think) it still feels emotioneless and mechanical. I think he has a problem with sexual intimacy and making himself vulnerable that way. I have talked about these things with him in the past, but it usually ended in a conflict and with him getting defensive.
     
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  6. NCK

    NCK Fapstronaut

    I understand, it's very complicated to have this kind of conversation, but I think the best path is to slowly build trust in each other by talking about everything you both think. I wish you all the luck!!!
     
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  7. Thank you for your reply. I am thinking that maybe in the past porn wasn't as available and extreme as it is today, so maybe it just took longer time to get desensitized to it and start escalating. But if I understand correctly, his problem with attraction and desensitization to porn happened at the same time?
     
  8. You are right, this is the biggest argument I have that he does/did have an addiction. The only reason we ever really had conflicts was because I had to find out over and over again that he was still looking at porn behind my back, even though I had asked him not to. And every time he was acting suspicious and I confronted him, he denied everything and even guilttripped me for not trusting him. And I can think of no other reason to treat a loved one this way other than addiction.
     
  9. Psalm27:1my light

    Psalm27:1my light Fapstronaut

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    Pretty much, with the escalation. He became severely depressed, which led him to escalate, which made him more depressed etc.... it’s funny you recognized it as an addiction when he refused to stop and hid it from you, I just thought my husband was selfish and a jerk, lol. Course I’ve never in my life known anyone who was an addict. I stumbled on an article about it a year and a half ago, showed it to my husband and literally within an hour set up an appointment with a csat. He got into recovery, real recovery not just white knuckling trying to stop on his own. Which is what he’d tried every time before. However, he has to work at it every day. He goes to meetings, counseling, changed his whole routine. He is a different person.
     
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