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Did anyone develop high blood sugar/ diabetes because of excessive masturbation ? Please help

Discussion in 'Rebooting - Porn Addiction Recovery' started by stack85, Jul 5, 2017.

  1. stack85

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    Yes it has been a year i am trying to control it with food and insuline and metformin.
     
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    How you feeling with diabetic.
     
  4. Jason_Tesla_19

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    I've never heard of masturbation causing high blood sugar, diabetes, or insulin resistance. You might want to go see a doctor. There is some evidence that intermittent fasting can reverse insulin resistance and metabolic syndrome.

    Here's an interesting link on fasting. I've been practicing intermittent fasting for a couple months, and I've lost about 12 pounds / 5 kilograms and about 6 inches / 15 centimeters off my waist, and my body fat percentage has dropped over 2%. I haven't lost any lean mass. My weight loss has been all fat.

    https://idmprogram.com/fasting-a-history-part-i/
     
  5. stack85

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    @Jason_Tesla_19 Yes, MASTURBATION definitely causes diabetes in some people. I have added links in the beginning of this thread showing how masturbation causes insulin resistance. I have been talking to 2 people on this forum who developed diabetes due to masturbation, ONE OF THEM is TOTALLY cured since he went on a long nofap journey and can process carbs with no medecine whatsoever.

    I have also had a personal experience of blood sugar stabilizing after a good streak but then I went back to my habit again. Masturbation affects me HEAVILY. It affects my blood sugar, my blood pressure and my health overall. I am really ready to STOP this habit once and for all.
     
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  6. fullyrecovered

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    Bruh u can add me to the list. used to view this thread but i had to sign up just to give my results. I did develop Diabetes also, though I had a healthy diet, I was an addict like you guys. This leads me to believe that if it wasn't PMO that directly lead to my diabetes, it certainly contributed in some way. started at an age waaaay too young. perhaps like 6 or so(saw my older cousin doing it). all I know is it has been going from ever since I knew myself. developed diabetes at age 32, very fuckin early. I was distraught cause I lead a healthy lifestyle apart from my addiction. I stumbled across this site, and this thread specifically, and thought, Fuck, this is probably exactly what happened to me (knowing that i was never obese, apart from me recently developing a huge belly and man-boobs) Anyways, the fact that this shit scared me half to death, knowing that it could cost my life, I told myself I had to quit. went roughly 5 months No-PMO and I can tell you that I am healed. totally fuckin healed. got off pills and insulin within the first 2 months of no PMO, and been eating just like i used to before. i jus cut down alcohol intake, which according to docs actually lowers blood sugars, so i doubt it caused it. I was an occasional drinker who drank perhaps one or 2 nights out of an entire month, even though these were binges. anyways, during my streak, I realized that I became hairy as fuck. it's as if my testorone levels, androgen receptor reactivity(or whatever) increased. i really concur with the theory that excess PMO can actually lead to low T and high estrogen, which causes insulin resistance. Testosterone is needed to keep blood sugar levels down. the less you have, the higher your glucose levels are. If you think about your life bro, and how much you value it, you gotta go thru that streak bruh. it's difficult as fuck but my fear of death and being gravely ill made me keep my streak. gotta live to take care of my son. ever since my streak ended, i've been a beast in bed. my gf compliments me and been asking what's gotten into me. since i've gotten more facial and body hair(one night my gf tried to pull hairs off my chest thinking they were loose hairs that fell on me from her head), suggestive of higher T levels, my sugar levels have been that of a Non-diabetic. I have almost totally stopped monitoring my levels n shit, randomly checking like maybe once or twice a month. last blood test I did, my A1c was 5.4 and my post-meal and fasting levels that I have checked with my personal tests have gone down dramatically since that check up 3 months ago. it's even on the side of too low sometimes. my doc says he's never seen a case like this, and told me I should eat as I normally do and come back to him frequently so he can monitor my developments cause he thinks it's a miracle. deep down, I know what caused it and what healed it but i never mentioned my addiction to him though.



    ....Post is kinda long, but I hope it helps you guys recover. I'm by no means an expert scientist or doc, I just merely gave my account of what happened to me and what I observed. I cannot tell you if this is a sure-shot way to reverse your diabetes, cause I dunno if my case was different based on the fact that I kept a strict healthy diet before my diabetes diagnosis. All I gotta say is give it a shot. We got one life to live; preserve yours. I am in total control of myself and urges now. yeah i do PMO once in a while if my girl on her period or whatever, but it's much less than I used to before, and it doesn't affect my Glucose levels in anyway. I believe I'm totally healed, but only time will tell.
     
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    @fullyrecovered THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH for responding to this thread. I DO KNOW masturbation DOES CAUSE diabetes and high blood pressure. It took me a longtime to actually make the connection between masturbation and diabetes. I accidently discovered it after being on nofap for like 11 days and my blood sugar was totally normal. The thing is that I went back to my ways and the blood sugar came back shortly after. I'm now on NOFAP, I am trying to make this streak last a very longtime. I am glad my thread was able to help you...
     
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    @fullyrecovered It's amazing that DOCTORS do not know about this yet ... The health care industry totally failed. My mission is NOFAP, eating healthy ( which means GETTING RID OF ANIMAL PRODUCTS ) and exercising. I sent you a private message. again, Thank you so much. We need to spread the word. We can save lives.
     
  9. fullyrecovered

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    ok bro, I see the message. I hope you don't mind me answering it here? I want everyone to see the info........


    yeah bro, i was baffled as to how I got it knowing how strict i was with my diet. i'm not gonna lie i never made the connection. it was my confusion which led me to search if excess masturbation can cause diabetes which led me to this thread. at first i doubted that cause doctors always encouraged masturbation and said it's good for us. your thread made me try out nofap and I couldn't believe it worked.

    I dunno how long i had it but my symptoms presented themselves in December of last year, frequent urination, blurry vision, etc. My glucose tolerance test was FUCKED!!!! went as high as over 500 and that's crazy cause my weight was like 140, and waist size was 32, so i wasn't obese. this is why the doc was confused as to how I developed it. started my streak in January. nowadays my morning sugar levels are literally 90 or under. sometimes 80 or less, no matter what i eat at night. after meal, after 2 hours it's normally 94 or so. and I normally test in intervals exactly after I eat to make sure i'm not peaking. the highest I go now is like 130 or so and that's like 30 min to an hour after I eat. it can be healed bruh, jus think about ur life. if u give it up totally and do more walking or exercising, your Testorone will increase and balance out your blood sugars. not all cases of diabetes are caused by obesity or eating too much sweets(i never ate candy nor ice cream, nor drink soda etc.). i believe our version of Type 2 is influenced by hormonal chaos in our bodies. docs misinform us so we can remain sick and keep going back to them.
     
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    @fullyrecovered I discovered that masturbation causes diabetes by accident after being on streak of 11 days and seeing that my blood sugar was 90 in the morning after eating white rice and beef which would have usually raised it to over 200 before the streak... I tried to understand why my blood sugar was repeatedly normal and the only difference was that I hadn't fapped in 11 days ...

    Now my question is where did you learn that Testosterone is actually the main thing supporting insulin resistance ? It makes so much sense that testosterone loss could actually be the culprit. I am talking to another user experiencing the same thing, he got diabetes from PMO and he's not obese at all. He knows PMO caused it and he's the one who introduced me to the testosterone theory. Do you have links where I can read more on testoserone and diabetes ?

    I am so happy for you man, I am glad you can now enjoy eating what you like without having to worry about your sugar. I got diagnosed with diabetes in 2014 and it's 2018 now. Between 2014 and 2018, I kinda controlled it off and on with days where my sugars were very high. I am now on a final streak to really put an end to this.

    I would really like to keep in touch and see how you're doing as you move along being diabetes free and see if you are still doing great after being PMO free. Did you also get high blood pressure ? It gave me both diabetes and high blood pressure.
     
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    @fullyrecovered I am also suffering from PIED ... Did you have it too ? Did you have to wait the completion of 2 months for your blood sugar to be completely normal constantly ? When did you start noticing the effects from when you started nofap ? I hear taking ZINC while on nofap can speed up the process.
     
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    i actually learned a lot from this thread. found out a lot from your links plus just did some searches on testosterone and its purposes. Was trying to post a link but it says I'm too new on the forum. anyways just do a google search with the terms "low testosterone and insulin resistance" and you'll find a lot.

    scientists are not 100% sure how low testosterone relates to diabetes. some think Low T comes after diabetes while others will argue that Low T leads to diabetes. I think in my case it was the latter. and i'll keep this thread ongoing an update my status when I can.
     
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    I'd say i probably suffered PIED slightly. it wasn't like fully-blown but I really noticed it after nofap where I realized that i was harder and lasted longer. I never tried taking Zinc. what I do know though is that exercise is absolutely essential during nofap. another note: when I was addicted I still would exercise frequently, with no results whatsoever. still had man-boobs and a belly. ever since I did Nofap with exercise, the results are clear as day. this is why I strongly believe too much PMO is detrimental. it totally destroys your hormone levels.

    roughly 2 months or so. cause In March I had to come off insulin because it would make my blood sugar levels too low when I injected. that's when i first wondered if my body was really healing itself. normally, once you go on insulin, ur practically doomed and have to depend on it for life. i was getting considerably low numbers with insulin and metformin. way too low. made me weak. I thought i'd try giving them a break and mentioned it to my doc who advised against it, but said it was my choice. by April I was off insulin and meds, would test frequently to make sure I was good, and noticed that my levels were always normal. My doc didn't believe me when i went back in May so he made me do another A1c. when he saw my numbers he still couldn't believe. he started asking me what's my secret, and started taking notes saying he's gotta pass on my knowledge to his other patients with diabetes.

    started noticing small changes 2 months in, and more pronounced ones after 3 months(more facial and body hairs popping out and some pimples)

    I just wish I knew all I know now years ago. I could've prevented this, however, I can't complain cause I basically got a second chance.
     
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    Hey brother, I am a medical student aiming to be a family doctor so Diabetes is our bread and butter. I'm not sure about what the others are saying about serpentina but I'd have to look into it with studies before I would make any recommendations.

    TL;DR: masturbation wouldn't cause diabetes

    I think most of you know this but for those that don't: diabetes is a word that means increased urination. I don't remember the exact quote but an ancient biologist described it as something like "it's as if those affected are peeing until they die". What normally happens: carbs (like glucose) are like gasoline for your cells, they burn it to create energy and go about their lives. So when you eat carbs, your body secretes insulin to allow your cells to absorb the carbs (glucose) in and fuel the cells. Diabetes Mellitus is caused when the insulin is not being secreted so the carbs stay in the blood vessels, and like gasoline, when they stay somewhere too long they can cause A LOT of damage. There are 2 types of diabetes: Type 1 Diabetes starts in childhood and continues into adulthood, they aren't sure what causes it but it's likely a combination of genetics, and environmental factors. In this one, your immune system thinks your pancreas gland is an invader and it starts to attack it. Because all the cells are destroyed they cannot make any insulin = the glucose stays in the blood longer and can cause damage.

    Type 2 diabetes is (theorized to be) caused by the body being exposed to too many carbs and sugary foods so instead of the gland being destroyed, it is exhausted from secreting insulin all the time. Our bodies are very resilient but if you push any organ too far, it'll fail. It's like trying to hold your arms above your head, after a while even the strongest arms will begin to fail. How we treat it (as a last resort) is to replace the insulin from a pen you inject yourself.

    Cortisol would affect your insulin levels but it's not to the level where the cells will get tired and stop working properly. There is still a lot of research going into finding the cause of Type 2, we think there is definitely a genetic component (more than Type 1), environmental factors (diet, exercise, family history), and possible exposure to certain infections can make it more likely. But in all honesty, we have no clue as of yet because I know a few people that are "healthy" but still developed Type 2.

    It's quite unfortunate you have the disease brother, but it's not a death sentence, and if you take the meds and put a little effort into diet and exercise (see a dietician and a Diabetes educator if you can afford it, they often know more than your family doctor will) you can live a healthy life. There are countless advantages to quitting porn, but reversing diabetes is unlikely at best.

    Send me a PM or reply here if you want any more info.
     
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    @ThePeacocksTale Thank you for taking the time to write, I have researched on diabetes a lot and Type 2 is almost ALWAYS CURABLE. I know MANY people who reversed it. In the vast majority of cases, type 2 diabetes is caused by obesity, especially abdominal fat.

    First off, let me tell you that my DIABETES is 100% correlated with masturbation, if you're trying to refuse that PMO causes diabetes in at least some people, then you're very ignorant as I was before I experimented that on myself. I am telling you that I was temporarily diabetes free when I went on a streak, and after relapsing and going at it again, my sugars went back up !!

    Second, it is a BIG MYTH that carbs do cause diabetes, that's the stupidest lie I have ever heard. In the majority of cases, Type 2 diabetes is caused by intromyocellular lipids ( FAT) clogging the pancreas and liver which makes you insulin resistant when you are OBESE or overweight. Here's a link of a well known scientific study done in the UK that proves that Type 2 diabetes is curable. FAT is the cause, NOT carbs. Diabetes only makes your body UNABLE to process carbs. Carbs are the MAIN NATURAL fuel of our human bodies. Doctors completely GET IT WRONG !!!

    https://www.ncl.ac.uk/press/articles/archive/2015/10/type2diabetes/

    How can you the EXPLAIN CHINESE and JAPANESE people who grew up on white rice and live very long ???... with almost NO diabetes. It's now been discovered that FAT is the main culprit in diabetes. Fat BLOCKS insulin action on muscle cells and makes them insulin resistant.

    This second link explains that diabetes type 2 is a disease of fat toxicity ( in those whose diabetes type 2 is caused by fat)


    French people in Paris eat SO MUCH WHITE BREAD and yet they're very thin. The REAL CAUSE of obesity and DIABETES is saturated fat from ANIMAL sources. Give up on MEAT, DAIRY and see how it changes your health. Adapt a low fat plant based diet.

    NOT ALL type 2 diabetes cases is caused by obesity or fat, Overmasturbation/ejaculation can definitely cause it. I have talked to 2 people so far who are healthy, were diabetic and reversed it by going on NOFAP. The last messages on this thread is from a user who fully recovered as well.
     
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    @fullyrecovered Someone right below your last message still insists that masturbation doesn't cause diabetes LOL and you are real proof that it actually causes it and abstinence cured you. THERE IS SO MUCH IGNORANCE about health in America .. We need to learn to listen to our bodies and see what they're trying to tell us because the healthcare industry totally failed us ... Doctors do not know SHIT !!!! Before I discovered that nofap did really have great impact on my blood sugar, I always kinda suspected that masturbation could be the cause but I ignored that suspicion for some reason. I always feel SO bad physically after fapping too much. It gave me IBS, bloated stomach, brain fog, lethargy, it made my life just horrible. I know that once I successfully complete this long streak, I will probably feel like a new man.

    Let's keep this thread going .... we could save so many lives. I'm glad this thread changed your life for the better .... So are you PMO free now ?? You have completely mastered staying away from porn and fapping ?

    How high was your blood sugar while you were taking insulin before starting nofap ? Did insulin help much or was your blood sugar still high despite using it ? It must feel SO good to eat what you want without having to monitor yourself all the times. I feel much stronger in this streak after talking to you ... Don't go anywhere lol. I want to update you about my progress as well.
     
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    @fullyrecovered I hear it usually takes years before diabetes really destroys you, so you acted early which is good... What about high blood pressure ? Did you ever suffer from it ?
     
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    6A4D5F5E-E705-425E-836A-16DC35D4D1DC.jpeg I have similar symptoms. Due to excessive abusive assholes at work I got depressed and happened to do self damaging activity of frequent M. My frequency was like once every 3 days.

    I struggle so much due to loneliness and lack of motivation. How many days noFap is needed to bring down the levels of a1 and glucose, bring down cortisol levels in my system?

    Should I really take metmorphin or this method of nofap is effective? My diet is really not so bad so I was shocked to see type 2 diabetes in my blood recently.

    Anybody out there who knows how many days of nofap showed direct change of results?

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  19. You'd be amazed of the body's self healing properties when you don't ejaculate every so often.

    Since hard mode, I get actual liver/gallbladder stones in the toilet every so often. This is always accompanied by cramping. It happens most often when eating lots of apples and or fasting. Normally this requires a whole procedure called a liver flush but nofap lifestyle seems to activate this response by itself. Needless to say that if the liver expells stones and benefits from nofap, the entire body will.

    Of course this requires time, healthy ketogenic/paleo diet and a bit of fasting but you'd be amazed of what comes out of you. 100s of these stones! Some will say it's the olive oil from the liver flush that creates these stones but I've been getting this every so often without any olive oil whatsoever.

    Masturbation actually ups cortisol levels which leads to blood sugar problems. It really isn't good for anything. Short term stress relief when you're not addicted maybe, other than that, huge, huge stressor.
     
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    @srihari801 You may be suffering from the same thing.. .. are you overweight or obese ? If not, you are probably suffering from the effects of overmasturbation. You need to stop completely for like 3 months and see what it does for you ..
     

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