Did you guys ever plan for an end to this?

YES! Dont ever go back to porn or masturbating, this just showes that you want to end this with an relapse witch means you are not rebooted completly! Keep going and kill the addiction a bit more, its hard i know dude but its worth it

 

On my first streak ever I reached 67 days without PMO. I went in hard mode all the way, and since I was pretty curious of the benefits it was relatively easy for me. I felt that I totally healed, and thinking back to those days man..best 67 days of my life so far. So I was pretty curious at my 67th day - without any urges or intention to fap - that how would an orgasm feel after this long gone time not touching my dick. So I did it without P. Well men, tbh it was one of the greatest O in my life.. after 4 days I fapped again, after 2 days again, and suddenly I was addicted to PMO again... so I dont plan to quit it ever. For me, if I have a gf its totally managable not to fap and things like this, so my future will look good with a happy wife, 2 kids and lots of dogs :- )

I've also read that there are people who can manage MO when they are healed totally, but I think thats not my case. I suggest you to really think about it before you decide to go with it again.

 

I'm not sure if you've already seen this, but take a look at this page from the main site:
https://www.nofap.com/rebooting/

It's really buried down there, but there is a "life after rebooting" section. The official message seems to be that porn is damaging, but masturbating isn't assuming that you don't have to fantasize about pornographic content to do it. However, ultimately it is a personal choice, so I'd encourage you to reflect on what you intend to gain by abstaining in the first place and whether you think you will be able to observe that change reintroducing MO into your life.

For me, I'm here with very specific goals and aspects of my life I'm here to change. Once I see the changes I want, can masturbate without porn, and feel like I'm masturbating as a part of self-care rather than to distract myself from deeper issues, I plan on going back to it. I never plan on going back to porn or the habits that caused masturbating to become an issue simply because I don't want to end up back where I started.

 

When I quit smoking weed it was easy to say that I'd never use again but after sometime I felt as though using alittle would be a good reward. That was all it took for me to completely relapse. I suggest that you stick to the straight and narrow. Better safe than sorry.

 

Its the best way for me to Stay away from pmo. But in the beging i think to After 90 days 1 Time will be good but thats bullshit

 

it is up to you our NoFap friend, that is the beauty of NoFap, you can do your 90 days, and then after that..it is up to you!! but during the 90 days.

i hear you, but why not start now? why 'do one more then and then get on the wagon' that IS the problem. the one more thing, no matter what it is.

 

u can get off it, then back on, its your canvas your painting

 

Just answering without reading the whole thread: no pm without end, no o for 90 days. Followed by o only when with my wife.

 

I do believe that masturbation and pornography can be done in "healthy" amounts. Just as getting drunk and wasted once a month, smoking a cigar every other week or eating a one heavily processed meal with tons of bad cholesterol, trans fat, chemicals and sugars once a week can be fine. It's definitely still very unhealthy tough, but just as our body can detoxify itself of poisons (such as junk food, cigars and alcohol) in small amounts I'm sure it can also stay healthy when porn and masturbation is done in moderation.

This doesn't really work for most addicts here though. Because we would just fall back into same old shit hole. For 99% of addicts of any type there is never such thing as moderation again. There is no such thing as recovered alcoholic for example being able to have 1 beer and then stop in most of the cases. You might be that 1% but I bet you're not. We either stay clean or complete relapse is just a question of time. And in that case one might need to start back from zero. Sure you will not lose all the benefits from one time, two times or even three times. But all it takes is one step and you might not be even able to stop. But if you were very mildly addicted, or never addicted at all, and do this nofap thing for other reasons then it might work for you.

That being said, I do think it's just your addicted brain talking. It's not your choice, it's you addiction fooling you to think that you have a reason to relapse. Also why you need porn to warm up for prostitutes? It's makes absolutely no sense to me. If you want prostitute then just go sleep with one. What porn has anything to do with it? What is this warming up bullshit? Are you afraid that your cold penis will get cramps from not exercising for so long?

 

I think there's a lot of merit in comparing porn and masturbation to other addictions because that's what it is. That being said, I think that this addiction and food addiction (if you are inclined to believe it exists) are a little different.

If you are an alcoholic and you want to stay clean, the easiest thing to do would be to avoid alcohol altogether. Depending on your degree of addiction, this might be difficult especially if you can't stand to be around, say, others drinking casually in a restaurant. However, for the most part, you can just not keep alcohol in your home, not attend events or go to venues where alcohol is served, and ask those around you to be sensitive to your addiction and not drink in front of you.

On the other hand, if you are addicted to food, there is no way you are going to be able to just swear off food for good. It's a natural human need, you are going to get hungry at some point, and you aren't going to easily be able to avoid all temptation. There's opportunity to overeat or eat unhealthily in everyday situations. Arguably one could take extreme measures and decide to limit their eating to the smallest amount they think is necessary, but that's also disordered eating and unhealthy on the opposite end of the spectrum.

I think that PMO falls somewhere in the middle of these two. If you are looking at a porn addiction merely as watching videos of people having sex online, then it definitively falls in the first category. You can just opt to never watch porn again, and it's not like you'll accidentally encounter a porn video in day-to-day life (probably).

However, if you look at it from a broader perspective and consider sexual content and masturbation to be part of the problem, you're delving a bit more into the second category. Humans are sexual beings, and while the desire for sexual release isn't as imperative as the desire for food, it's always going to be there. Hence, I'm not sure that entirely abstaining from all sexual content, masturbation, and orgasm is as clear of a solution as staying away from alcohol. There are always going to be sexual advertisements, sex in the media, and attractive people around. While some people may be content becoming a monk to avoid all that, most people see sex (in the right context) as part of a fulfilling human experience – most people have dating, marrying, and/or finding a partner as part of their life plan.

Thus, I would say that it is possible to abstain from PMO indefinitely as one could with other addictions, but I think if it comes to the point where abstaining has become an obsession that is interfering with life, it's just as much of a disorder as being addicted. My personal end goal is to just masturbate once or twice a week without porn as opposed to being embarrassingly turned on in day-to-day situations. That being said, if someone thinks total abstention is best for them, who am I to tell them otherwise? I just can't help but eye roll when people become utterly consumed by streaks as opposed to results, start seeing real-life people or events (that should be arousing to the average person) as "triggers," say masturbation is universally unhealthy, or replace their PMO addiction with an addiction to being anti-PMO.