did you have this epiphany ?

Discussion in 'Porn Addiction' started by shedernatinus, Feb 5, 2020.

Tags:
  1. shedernatinus

    shedernatinus Fapstronaut

    238
    186
    43
    After you made your mind to quit this addiction, how did you begin to see the porn industry?

    How did you feel about the really overt ties the porn industry shares with human trafficking, and the fact that thousands of young impoverished girls end up being exploited in this business?

    How do you feel about the demeaning and vile sexual depictions these horrible sites stream non-stop and directed toward females , and the degrading names used to describe women accross every video ?

    How do feel about the way you used to view and treat women in your life, including family member ?

    How do you feel about the many performers who are now dead because of their "work" ? either by overdose or by suicide ?

    please, those questions are addressed to every honest man trying to overcome his addiction and finally restitute his original sanity and sexual purity. Every honest man who wants to live as a human being and not as a sick sexually obsessed freak. Every man who had enough wisdom and strenght to view beyond all the hatered toward women and gave up on his porn use for the sake of humanity as a whole, and not for some sexual potency problem.

    As for those who are still in denial about the horrible and inhumane porn and prostitution lobby, you are free to believe whatever you want to. Porn harms a lot of women and girls, and takes men's empathy and compassion away.

    As for those who have decided to answer to me, please every question is important and helps many other people who are still ignorant and are sinking deep into the abyss.

    And , if by now you had some sort of enlightenement and realised this wasn't who you wanted to be, what did you decide to do in your life? and make a change in society even in a very small scale? Do the idea of becoming a parent feel possible to you? or do you still feel guilt and can't break free?
     
    Nomar, kropo82, BrettyBoy and 6 others like this.
  2. IGY

    IGY Fapstronaut

    1,579
    7,235
    143
    Why is your post all about females? How about the boys and men these same things apply to?
     
  3. shedernatinus

    shedernatinus Fapstronaut

    238
    186
    43
    because I speak from my perspective as female.and beside, the majority of the victims forced to perform out of poverty and trafficking or drug addiction are in fact female.
    there may be men who are exploited in the same way, but their number is far less than their female counterpart. And you did not give me an answer even though it may be very interesting, and there is no need to feel shame.
     
  4. henryhill

    henryhill Fapstronaut

    194
    508
    93
    I love hearing everyone’s perspective and appreciate you sharing yours. Unfortunately it hasn’t been something I’ve thought about much although I’ve steered clear from a lot of what to me seems overtly degrading when looking at p. Having said that I have no idea the reason behind why someone is doing what they’re doing and that’s part of the reason I’m against porn generally. I guess I have no problem with consenting adults doing whatever they want to do. But how can you know what is actually going on behind the scenes? It does just seem like an awful industry that destroys so many lives...

    I heard one podcast talk about how the “actors” have to get tested for stds every two weeks. They then stately (perhaps a little dramatically) that people are putting their lives at risk so that others can masturbate! It was a sobering thought for me anyway and definitely put some perspective on what I was consuming.
     
    ANewFocus and Optimum Fortitude like this.
  5. shedernatinus

    shedernatinus Fapstronaut

    238
    186
    43
    you definitly answered just a 1/3 of all my questions. I wanted to now if now , after everything you still think the same way about females as before; you know all the misogyny in P might have had it's own hold on you.
     
  6. jimbo_bones

    jimbo_bones Fapstronaut

    30
    21
    8
    The sad thing is I always knew these things but put them to the back of my mind. Really poor from someone who would like to consider themselves a feminist ally. I’d try and watch more ethical porn but this certainly didn’t always happen.

    It’s interesting/disturbing how much we can rationalise or ignore these things in the moment. I think this applies to lots of men who wouldn’t consider themselves addicted to porn too.
     
  7. pmofreeliving

    pmofreeliving Fapstronaut

    65
    81
    18
    your addiction doesn't want you to know these things so it's not something most are conscious about. I think that's why meditation is so powerful because you can teach yourself to become aware of what you are doing.
     
    NamaClature14 likes this.
  8. henryhill

    henryhill Fapstronaut

    194
    508
    93
    Definitely think of them differently. However, to some extent I distinguished the women I saw in images differently than the women I knew in real life. It was almost like porn was some made up video game or something like that but I seldom viewed women in real life as objects. Obviously now I realize the horror that some (all?) women in the industry endure. Also I do think I treat women in real life even better than I did before but I feel like I treats them well prior.
     
    Onwards90 likes this.
  9. XMA

    XMA New Fapstronaut

    4
    2
    1
    Hey everyone, I am new here hoping it would help me take back the control of my life. I'd like to put an end to sissy hypnosis, I mean what is it all about. Out of curiosity I'm deep down inside this rabbit hole. I sometimes loose control over my body only to gain it back when I've masturbated. What's this regret feeling? I am all okay with LGBTQ community and all but it's not exactly what I want. How does it is happening? The same thing with multiple people. All wanting to be a girl until they masturbate. If I'm not in control of my body at the time then who is, who is making us masturbate like girls? What could be their agenda. Does the long sissy hypnosis FBI waring real? Is CIA also involved in this? Mkultra? If it's the elite that are planning this then who can stop them, they've got all the money and power. They want us to not be awake, they want us to give in so they can get even better control over world population.

    For once, I saw it as all good but only if I was one with money, power and control. Look if there is no one to resist anymore for the orders, keeping population in control and command is really easy. Well in future if there will be mindless sissy, they'll not be going to participate in wars. Power will be limited to elites only as everyone will be under their control.
    See, it's like a pyramid on top there's only a few but on bottom there's many (I think this would be new way of upper middle poor classes maybe ending poverty and war)
    1. Elite - New world order (new government)
    2. Rich - will have money but no power over elite
    3. Slaves - no power, no money, no control
    What do you guys think? I'd like to know your thoughts on this.
     
  10. XMA

    XMA New Fapstronaut

    4
    2
    1
    Hey shedernatinus, I'd like to have some of your thoughts on sissy porn, I mean in these type of porn a male is usually degraded and forced to dress like a girl as he is the one wanting all those humiliating things done to him, talking about me only like I feel so good in wanting to be treated as the pornstars until I have an orgasm and then I'm like why would they make such nasty thing and why did I watched it always remains a question.
    Please reply, thank you. Do you or any other girl you know want to have gender change?
     
    Washwaverr likes this.
  11. shedernatinus

    shedernatinus Fapstronaut

    238
    186
    43
    I will answer this from my perspective, again, as a female. Sissy porn is just an extention of all the misogynistic material present all across porn sites. I perpetuates the idea that femininity is inherently degrading and less, and the only way to be worthy is to be "a man", and by this, it means to be some steroid monster who doesn't care about women or their boundaries. I believe in equality, empathy and respect between human females and males. In sissy porn, just because a (biological) male is the target of this violence doesn't make it any different from the rest. The message is the same: A woman is not a human worthy of love and compassion, and, if a male doesn't fit the stereotypical pornified "masculinity" portrayed in porn, he deserves to be treated the same way as women. I believe the reason you felt drawn to this kind of pornographic material is a psychological struggle between the fact that you consider women as equal to men in term of humanity, and the fact that maybe you feel rejected by male peers because of this very belief.
    This , in fact, is not something vile and disgusting at all. It is a struggle every male should have in order to feel at peace with the opposite sex and himself as well. You have the ability to overcome all the misogyny you see in porn and (indirectly) in sissy porn and you have to realize that.
     
    jimbo_bones likes this.
  12. Porn Kämpfer

    Porn Kämpfer Fapstronaut

    hello @shedernatinus , my friend @IGY does not mean anything bad . all what he wanted is just some1 who speaks about the problems of male pornstars , he appretiate your post .
     
    Washwaverr and FellatiousD like this.
  13. red gyarados

    red gyarados Fapstronaut

    129
    101
    43
    so even when we’re getting abused by women we’re the bad guys. Nice.
     
    FellatiousD and fedmom like this.
  14. Master Chips

    Master Chips Fapstronaut

    769
    13,832
    123
    Stopping PMO is a principle, a part of belief and morals before anything. Both genders are engaged in the porn industry, as there are Female victims there are males victims. As there are Male Monsters there are Female Monsters. Yes the ratio of Men into porn is more because this is the nature of life where a man is sexually attracted to a female. As the man should control his Desires, a Female should control her body.

    Regarding porn, it is a devilish industry that favors nobody but does every kind of lewdness to get Money. And it should be rejected by everyone especially those who understood how Porn effects us as human beings.
     
    Washwaverr and henryhill like this.
  15. Porn Kämpfer

    Porn Kämpfer Fapstronaut

    she is angry a little bit , I can see that by reading her post . she was releasing her stress by typing this . anyway she is a good person . you will see that by the time .
     
    Washwaverr and FellatiousD like this.
  16. Mordobarn

    Mordobarn Fapstronaut

    When I first found NoFap, I also discovered that the porn industry isn't what it says it is.

    I don't know the statistics, whether there are more women than men, but I know that both men and women suffer abuse, sex trafficking, and coercion, and being lured into drugs. I didn't know this before, but I discovered at it the same time as I was researching NoFap.

    I resolved to never again use porn, because I cannot in any conscience support that type of industry.
     
    ANewFocus and henryhill like this.
  17. juniormelville

    juniormelville Fapstronaut

    The industry is absolutely repulsive in every respect. All you have to do is look objectively at what is happening on the screen. Even when I tried to find less aggressive videos, made by independent couples, they were still reproducing the stereotyped acts from the industrial porn videos. I suppose it wouldn't sell otherwise. The horrible thing is that I knew this for a long time before I managed to quit. It's a disturbing reminder of how this stuff twists our minds that I had made so many other ethical choices in life about food, transport, ways of relating to people and so on, but I was still consuming something I knew to be highly unethical. So my mind was split between what I knew and what I was doing.

    To answer OP's other question, like @henryhill I had a related mental split around my attitude to real women. When I was bingeing badly, seeing women - at times almost any woman - would instantly result in sexual thoughts or images intruding into my mind. Just through repetitive habit, I would associate real women around me with the scenes I had burnt into my retina by watching porn. I didn't take these images seriously and never imagined acting them out. As far as I know, I never behaved in an overtly misogynistic way (I know it's more subtle than that, of course). Actually, the intrusive images made me feel embarrassed, anxious, over-cautious, and ashamed to be of the same species as the women around me at work and in my social life. Since adulthood I have always tried to have open and equal communication with my partners, whether things were going well or not. I think some of my sexual tastes were influenced by porn, but I only acted on them when my partner enjoyed it too - not just 'consented' but really wanted to - quite often, it was a partner who suggested certain activities and I would not have made the first move. Looking back, I wonder if these women were also conditioned by porn.
     
  18. shedernatinus

    shedernatinus Fapstronaut

    238
    186
    43
    I understand from your point of view, that only men can be attracted to female bodies, and not the other way around. But, let me answer you from my own experience; I always felt attracted to male bodies even since I started puberty, not before. You always hear that when a male sees a nude female, he will certainly feel aroused, but I have felt the same thing, without any influence. I wondered if I was the only one that way, and I wanted to undertand what was happening to me; why was I having those thoughts ?.
    Later, I understand that those feelings were natural and normal, and not something unholy and disgusting. I boys were allowed to appreaciate naked women, why girls can't do that ?. If a man I feel attracted to is somehow naked in front of me, I will feel aroused. That is how nature made things, human males and females feel the same attraction toward each others, too bad they are too blinded to see it.
    The only difference is as women , we have been conditioned to avoid showing any desire or lust , because if we do people will call us whores and sluts. And many of us will first think of rape and abuse if a male gets naked in front of them, or shows them signs of attraction, even if they would have lusted over the said man under different circumstances.
    Pornography is an evil industry that was created to exploit aspiring young women and men, and take them toward a path they would never have chosen. the use of drugs is the initiation ritual to the industry, that will make anyone unable to dream of leaving it. Women suffer more than men because of this industry, it has always been that way. But , even if their number is way lower, men and young (teenage) boys suffer as well.
    They are trafficked and used mostly for gay pornography, and child porn. the teen boys who are forced to "work" for the industry are more likely to be exploited by men, not women, and and example of it is sissy porn.
     
  19. fedmom

    fedmom Fapstronaut

    457
    161
    43
    Sorry but this is ludicrous. The only women that do findom and exploit men with these fetishes are misandrists and I think the "industry" should be illegal personally. And why do you think being a straight man make you a misogynist?
     
    red gyarados likes this.
  20. shedernatinus

    shedernatinus Fapstronaut

    238
    186
    43
    no being a straight man means only that you are attracted to women, and being a straight women means that you are attracted to men.
    To be a misandrist or a misogynist requires indoctrination and the influence of environement
     

Share This Page