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Different levels of addiction?

Discussion in 'Partner Support' started by Deleted Account, Jul 30, 2018.

  1. After reading so many different stories I’m curious if the road to recovery is on different levels for people addicted at different levels?

    My husband kept it a secret and lied yes because of addiction but because he didn’t want me to be hurt and to have to go through all that but he told me himself. I didn’t even ask. He disclosed all information very willingly. He wants to be better for himself. For me too of course but he just wants to be better. He was clean over 2 years. And fell back in.

    What I’m wondering is with the right tools and help is this easier for some guys to beat?
    He is not in denial. He is not angry. He doesn’t have fetishes. Very simple porn. He doesn’t do it constantly and doesn’t actualy masturbate super often. He doesn’t have a problem having sex.

    I’m trying to decide if I’m willing to go through this again. Every part of me doesn’t want to at all. I want to run away and never look back. But his situation also doesn’t seem that intense in comparison to what I’m reading on here. So I’m just wondering if all our efforts just weren’t totally done right. And obviously he let his guard down.
     
  2. EyesWideOpen

    EyesWideOpen Fapstronaut

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    What was he doing before to stay sober? Was he just abstaining? White-knuckling? I know you said you tried some church groups and pastoral counseling that didnt work out. Beyond that, what did he do? Have you ever heard of a dry drunk?

    From addiction dot com: A “dry drunk” is a person who has stopped drinking (or drugging) but has not made the psychological and emotional changes necessary to achieve a complete recovery addiction.

    The question is why is he seeking it out? He has dig way down and learn what it is that took him there in the first place and what keeps drawing him back. He is using it as a coping mechanism for something and he has to figure out what, why, and then learn new coping strategies.

    This is where 12 step programs and certified sex therapists come into play. Dont let the "sex" word scare you. It's an umbrella term for all sexual related addictions. They treat porn addicts as well. Faith based counseling can be helpful, but it often isn't adequate.

    Check out www.yourbrainonporn.com . That has a ton of information to also help you understand the chemical interaction that goes on.
     
  3. He did also see an experienced sex addiction therapist. I went a few times too. (That was very hard for me)
    We really focused on our relationship. Prayed a lot. And made himself busy with other good healthy things.
     
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  4. JustSadPorn

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    You are writing about all of his recovery efforts in the past tense. So it sounds like he found effective solutions, but then stopped doing them for some reason. Is that correct?

    It sounds like you are hoping that your husband isn't truly addicted. It sounds like he is being forthright about this and admitting he's an addict. If I were you, I'd believe him.

    You might also be hoping that he hasn't done more or worse acting out than you already know about. Some of the stuff you read about on these forums is pretty frightening! Just because other addicts acted out in extreme ways, it doesn't necessarily mean that your husband did too. But...if your instincts are suggesting that there is something big he hasn't disclosed yet, you might have good cause to feel that way. That's something that only you and your husband can get to the bottom of, perhaps with the help of a good therapist.
     
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  5. @JustSadPorn
    He was doing all the right things that we knew to do. Because he wanted to. I did this time give Jim an ultimatum too. He had already made the decision to recover.

    I do believe he is addicted. He didn’t have any trauma in his life that caused this.
    So yes he is going to need to try to figure out in therapy why this is a problem for him.

    He truly believed that he was all better and it would never be a problem again and quit seeing the therapist and let his guard down with everything else too. Then here we are back at square 1.

    Except he initiated this conversation and want to get better for good ... again. It seems different.

    But for the first time in our marriage I felt totally secure and good. So now I feel ruined. Anyway.

    I just feel like he isn’t in as bad of shape as a lot of the people stories on here. Of course there is always something I could not know. I really dont think that’s the case but I don’t trust him anymore now that he looked at porn again so...

    Im really considering separation/divorce and I’m just wondering if someone that isn’t in so deep never physically cheated has never spoken to women has never even been with anyone else ever. Has never paid money. Has no usernames. Has nothing saved or hidden. No strange fetish. He just likes boobs like most ever man. I’m not making it ok. It’s sooooo not ok with me. But do you see what I’m saying.

    Maybe I’m just moving to a different phase of my grief. Idk yesterday I was thinking about physically harming him and today I’m trying to give Jim a way out. Think I need to stop talking. Lol
     
  6. JustSadPorn

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    Yes, I know exactly what you're saying. My husband hasn't physically cheated with another real woman either (or if he has, I don't know about it yet). It makes sense to me that the fact he hasn't been with another real woman is a factor in your decision to stay.

    I went through the same progression: I wanted to punch him in the face one day, then the next I felt sorry for him. You might want to punch him in the face again tomorrow. There's really no "wrong" way to feel about this. It's a very hard thing to go through. All of your feelings are valid, even if they are confusing.
     
  7. @JustSadPorn
    It’s helpful that I’m just saying to much on here and not going completely crazy on him. I’m mean I’ve been pretty nuts lol but this outlet I’m sure is helping tremendously. Over the year besides the therapy we’ve done I’ve never had anyone to talk to and be open with.

    Thank you for understanding. I really hope you’re doing well.
     
  8. Queen_Of_Hearts_13

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    This is it. This is why he relapsed. Any addict that gets too confident about recovery often goes back to addiction. An Addict Is An Addict For Life. There will ALWAYS be a vulnerability. I am over 2 years clean from self-harm, but it doesn't mean I don't still get urges and have my off days. I know that I live with the fact that I could go back if I am not 100% vigilant 24/7.

    As Demi Lovato once said, "You don't get a day off recovery" and truly recovery is a new mindset and a new way of living. If you slide back into old habits and don't change your mindset then in my opinion full sobriety and recovery won't be achieved.
     
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  9. Yes I agree @AnonymousAnnaXOXO we didn’t know that about addiction. Or realize the seriousness of the continued effort. I may have more than he just because my fear of it. But I think it was not on purpose. Like he really thought he was better. I wish the therapist would have stressed the recovery maintenance more but now here we are :(
     
  10. tammygeorge

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    May I ask the subtle signs. I fear my husband is masturbating behind my back. Low libido. I’m a mess and want answers. Your so lucky he’s admitted to you. That takes a lot and atleast he’s admitted instead of lying through his teeth.
     
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  11. Husband and I have always been best friends and know each other so well. I think as soon as he used porn (because he would go for lengthy periods without) I would see and feel his guilt and his disconnect from me almost instantly. A lot of times I wouldn’t realize that it was this right away because I tried not to have it on my mind all the time.
    I was rejected for sex countless times. He ends up sitting on the other side of the room if we are watching tv. (Looking at his phone) he gets up for work earlier. He stays up later at night. Would take showers earlier when I was sleeping(to masturbate) he was more irritable. And would stay at work later.

    I’m thankful he was honest although it comes with great pain knowing what he has done behind my back lied and to our marriage. We are now separated.

    Looks like he is taking necessary steps headed towards recovery but I just do t know if we will be able to move past this.
     
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  12. tammygeorge

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    Hmm, I don’t get that from my husband. He’s very affectionate. But low-low-low libido. I assume it’s masturbation. Maybe I’m wrong. I still feel super insecure.

    It hurts my heart to hear that you are separated and I hope your heart is healing and you go into another relationship not jaded. That’s the worst of it. How it affects us in the long run and other relationships most importantly the relationship with ourselves.

    A big kiss and warm hug. Thank you for your support.
     
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