Diffrent view on Post Orgasmic Illness Syndrome ?

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cyberhunk

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This is only my view on it , on the experience so it might not be the same for everyone else.
I think Pois is simply the body being confused (simple term) and "acting" on it.
Its some sort of CNS taxation rather then just simple fight or flight response.

In a flight or fight sitation, lets say a confrontation with someone else ,possibly even a fight , there is adrenaline rise, rapid heartbeat and more blood being redirected to other areas , usually this situation is somewhere between 1 and -5 minutes , on the next day you dont feel body aches and brain fog and lethargy (unless you got the dirt beat out of you but we'll just do by simple trash talk and walking away)

However there is something similar to this and that is running a marathon or super marathon on an empty stomach and the next day everything hurts and you dont want to do anything at all, not only your bones and muscles are hurting but your cns (central nervous system) is on a crash that leaves everything else on hold till it gets back up including your immune system (real over training does make everything worse in the body ,rather then just being a bit "sore")
Natural anxious( I believe some are born this way ) people tend to fall in this since anyone else I have come across never experienced such symptoms and they all admited to fapping ever since they were coming of age and still do, no problems what so ever.

This overstimulation (porn or fantasizing) in the brain causes the cns to "think" its doing "marathons" but there are no wheels spinning ,so its compensating by "acting up" by doing other chemical imbalances to make up thus you get muscle aches and brain fogs after.
Also there might be issue on how blood vessels constrict and dilate,sometimes being stuck in either way , perhaps alot of people who have anxiety might have bad circulation in general.

This is just a very simple way I can describe it, hope someone else can relate to it
 
Those are interesting ideas. Interestingly, I was thinking about starting a thread for this topic, so I am glad you did it.

I have symptoms somewhat similar to POIS. If I ejaculate then I feel hungover the following day (about 24 hours). From what I read, POIS normally lasts at least 3 days, so I'm not certain if I actually have POIS.

Anyway, my problem happens from ejaculation - not from orgasm. I found an article which says that prostate gland goes into a frenzy immediately after an ejaculation trying to replenish glutamic acid lost in the prostate fluid. Apparently it is an exponential increase in demand for glutamic acid.
https://www.sciencedirect.com/topics/medicine-and-dentistry/prostate-fluid

Here is another article I found today which mentions that POIS mostly happens to men and they suspect the prostate gland is the key. The article says that in rare instances POIS happens to women, but they hypothesize that these women squirt female ejaculate (which uses the female equivalent of the prostate gland).
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5001999/

So based on this, I have tried consuming glutamic acid supplements after an ejaculation, and it seems to help. The hangover is reduced from 24 hours to maybe 8 hours. Fruit juice might help too. I saw a porn actress who mentioned that she drinks orange juice to replenish herself due to squirting.

I'm still trying to figure it out. Not sure if I have POIS, but I suspect that might be it.

NOTE: Also, I have low glutamate and GABA neurotransmitters in my urine. I suspect that this deficiency predisposes me to POIS. When the prostate gland exponentially increases demand for glutamic acid it probably robs from an already struggling brain.
 
Interesting info but also if you notice alot of people who have POIS claimed either anxiety ,depression or some sort of PTSD.
What I found is that the brain in alot of us who suffer from it goes on a "sugar rave" when fantasizing and even more when we reach peak of orgasm /ejaculate.
In short , we get way too excited then we should be, either chemicals form too much and stay too long or neurons fire many times then they normally should (overstimulation )thus you can get tired without doing much with your body.
Again this is just a bro science from my part so take it with a grain of salt
 
cyberhunk said:
Interesting info but also if you notice alot of people who have POIS claimed either anxiety ,depression or some sort of PTSD.
What I found is that the brain in alot of us who suffer from it goes on a "sugar rave" when fantasizing and even more when we reach peak of orgasm /ejaculate.
In short , we get way too excited then we should be, either chemicals form too much and stay too long or neurons fire many times then they normally should (overstimulation )thus you can get tired without doing much with your body.
Again this is just a bro science from my part so take it with a grain of salt
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Yep, your observation about anxiety, depression, and PTSD seems insightful to me. I didn't have the PTSD, but I definitely had the anxiety and depression.
 
@cyberhunk , I am still working out a remedy that works for me, but last night my remedy seemed to work. I got trapped into a porn edging binge for 4 hours that finally resulted in an ejaculation. However, I started mixing glutamic acid and glutamine powders in my water even before the ejaculation happened. I drank several glasses of this concoction probably totaling almost a table spoon of glutamic acid and glutamine. During the night I drank a glass of apple juice with some glutamine powder (I've found this prevents the foot cramps I often get after an ejaculation). This morning I feel pretty good. No post orgasmic illness syndrome (or as I have been calling it "ejaculation hangover").

Also, the foot cramps is an interesting clue. Do you ever get foot cramps in the night after an ejaculation? I've found that if I can crawl across the floor and get some glutamine powder - and allow it to melt in my mouth and be absorbed rapidly through the lining of my mouth - that the foot cramp ends within 60 seconds or less. This is a solution I stumbled on by chance, but it works very reliably for me.
 
cyberhunk said:
This is only my view on it , on the experience so it might not be the same for everyone else.
I think Pois is simply the body being confused (simple term) and "acting" on it.
Its some sort of CNS taxation rather then just simple fight or flight response.

In a flight or fight sitation, lets say a confrontation with someone else ,possibly even a fight , there is adrenaline rise, rapid heartbeat and more blood being redirected to other areas , usually this situation is somewhere between 1 and -5 minutes , on the next day you dont feel body aches and brain fog and lethargy (unless you got the dirt beat out of you but we'll just do by simple trash talk and walking away)

However there is something similar to this and that is running a marathon or super marathon on an empty stomach and the next day everything hurts and you dont want to do anything at all, not only your bones and muscles are hurting but your cns (central nervous system) is on a crash that leaves everything else on hold till it gets back up including your immune system (real over training does make everything worse in the body ,rather then just being a bit "sore")
Natural anxious( I believe some are born this way ) people tend to fall in this since anyone else I have come across never experienced such symptoms and they all admited to fapping ever since they were coming of age and still do, no problems what so ever.

This overstimulation (porn or fantasizing) in the brain causes the cns to "think" its doing "marathons" but there are no wheels spinning ,so its compensating by "acting up" by doing other chemical imbalances to make up thus you get muscle aches and brain fogs after.
Also there might be issue on how blood vessels constrict and dilate,sometimes being stuck in either way , perhaps alot of people who have anxiety might have bad circulation in general.

This is just a very simple way I can describe it, hope someone else can relate to it
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Done both but after marathon the 'taxation' is mostly affecting the legs whilst your thinking stays largely intact as it concerns the clarity of thinking, while the self esteem goes immensely up and PO its different, it causes symptoms like weakness, apathy and brain-fog/nearly zero ability concentrate for any reasonable lengths of time that comes together with very fragile state of muscles and tendons, where things like sprains and strains become rather common occurrence.
And its not just porn and fantasizing and and it has never been just them but their accompanying erection and severe sexual arousal that lead to aforementioned effects. So 'the wheels are spinning' and it's not only in your head. The brain reacts to the real essential substance loses and imbalances created whilst you were watching or fantasizing.
 
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