Do HJs count as M in PMO

Discussion in 'Rebooting - Porn Addiction Recovery' started by Optimum Fortitude, Jan 16, 2020.

  1. Does a handjob count as masturbation?

    In other words, if you receive a HJ, do you have to change your counter to "No Porn"? Or can you have the "no Porn, no masturbation" counter?
     
  2. blademaster87

    blademaster87 Fapstronaut

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    If you got with some other person it seems like sex to me lol. Wouldn't count as M
     
  3. Kligor

    Kligor Fapstronaut

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    I think not,if you have sex with girlfriend then not.
    If you go to prostitute then yes hahah(without offense).
     
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  4. dogeatdog

    dogeatdog Fapstronaut

    Masturbation, according to Google is defined as the "stimulation of genitals with the hand for sexual pleasure". This does sound like a handjob but Google also says masturbation's synonyms are "self-gratification", "self-stimulation" and "self-abuse" so I don't think that's the true definition. I think that masturbation is defined as purposefully making yourself reach orgasm without the aid of another person.
     
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  5. Suk

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    Obviously it counts as masturbation, but since you didn't do it to a screen and was done by someone else, it's not that damaging unless you O. Although try abstaining as it might delay your recovery.
     
  6. Walnux

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    Personally, I think that it depends on your intention of receiving the handjob. Cuddled with your girlfriend in bed because you wanted to enjoy a relaxing evening and suddenly she put her hand down your pants? No masturbation. Hooked up with someone on tinder because you felt a strong desire for some kind of sexual release? Masturbation. IMHO, we shouldn't stick too closely to any definitions. After all, nofap is not a lawsuit where the outcome depends on whether you abided by the law or not. It's your personal journey and only you know what to do with it.
     
  7. Depends did you get a prostitute to do it?, if so that is no better than porn.
     
  8. Marshall 5

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    Personally, I wouldn't count this as M. It's a standard sexual act with another person and quite different from doing it yourself. Of course you are the ultimate arbiter of what counts! But I agree with others that if it involves elements that you are trying to avoid (paying for sex might be one such example) then it could be a reset.
     
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