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Do men need sex?

Discussion in 'Off-topic Discussion' started by determined99, Jul 17, 2021.

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Do men need sex?

  1. Yes

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  2. No

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  1. determined99

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    Hello, guys. We all knew there are this kind of statements like 'men are more visual', 'men need sex'. I am also male, but nowadays I feel that way, I am attracted to almost every girl and lust after her (but I don't like porn, I just like to look at beautiful girls and can't hel fapping). So basically I am a coomer. I wish I wouldn't be driven by only looks.
    What you think about this, can't we help lusting after every beautiful girl?
     
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  2. SickSicko

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    Do birds fly?
     
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  3. gordie

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    Lust eats me alive post-porn. I’m even in a relationship and my eye wanders, and my girlfriend is beautiful. It’s gotten better, but it’s tough, man.

    Men don’t need sex. When you find something higher to pursue than sex, life becomes extremely beautiful. I hope soon we can get it out of the center of our lives because it’s great but there’s so many interesting things and things to do in this world.
     
  4. This isn't something you should answer to with "Yes" or "No". It's up to a man himself. I personally think that we all can live without it but at the same time we should do it because it should feel great when you're doing it with someone you love. So question is do you want to connect to someone you love even more or maybe you just want to reproduce or you might as well just want to fuck with no specific reason?
     
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  5. It depends.

    For deny you the simple answer of @SickSicko i want to remember that people like Thoreau, Kant, Tesla (probably Steiner, despite it was married he probably was virgin, Platonic love, but there is no documents) and many others that denied to themself the ardent longing of sex.

    Here is a writing of Aelius Galenus about christians and sex:

    " 'From this we may infer that the people called Christians derive their faith from signs and miracles. Also, sometimes, they show such behavior as is adopted by philosophers; for fearlessness of death and the hereafter is something we witness in them every day. The same is true of abstention from sexual intercourse. Some of them, both men and women, go their whole life without sexual intercourse. There are among them those who possess such a measure of self-control with regard to food and drink and who are so bent on justice, that they do not fall short of those who profess philosophy in truth.'

    Mostly of relationship nowadays are based on visual, "i like that girl, i want to have sex with her" but are primal sex based relationship , not love based. Use it and throw it, addicted to each other, mere pieces of meat that do sex for pleasure, and for relief stress, same of porn addicts. When one of the two, gf-bf, wife and husband start to feel tired and bored one of the two commit adultery, had sex with another, and repeat. I know that since it become consciouss, the human male had an extreme primitive need of sex, like Esteban from Isabel Allende first book, that after months and months of retention he wasn't able to resist and had sex with every female servant of his village. Tolstoj was getting crazy for every time he had sex with his Wife, same as us every time we relapse on porn (And he repudiate his old book "Domestic Happiness" and completly reversed it with "Kreutzer Sonata" that originally should be called "The man that killed his wife)

    For me we have a stereotipized idea of love, that sex is necessary, but we grow up in a pornographic society, if we were born and raised in a monastery with monks, away from society, then we will be able to repudiate this idea of love more easly and love only God, for example.
    If we were born in the Accademia of Plato, we will be raised to think "One can love you only if he love your soul, who love your body, abbandon you when you get old" or something like that.

    So, for me men can do sex but is not really necessary as journals and movies show to you, and for us, we are extremly depravated with porn, so we have to take realy care when we do it.

    Have a Good Evening.
     
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  6. SickSicko

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    Sublimation of sexual desires is a thing too.
    Not all birds fly, but most do.
     
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  7. looks is why we approach attitude and outlook on life is the reason we stay or leave , but lust after every women ? that doesnt happen for me
     
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  8. I can agree sex is 100% necessary only if i was a Materlialist Darwinist Atheist that pretend orgasm and reproduction are the only objective of life, and i was years ago, but is outdated, only dogmatics can accept it...
     
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  9. if men needed sex to live half of this site would be dead
    but most men do need a relationship
     
  10. SickSicko

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    I'm a bloody sith what did you expect? of course I'm somewhat dogmatic.

    Now seriously, to me there is the subtle difference between objetive and purpose, the objetive of life is to expand itself, on materialistic terms that means reproducing, that instinct is there, although is you deem it a lower/unworthy of priority/instinct, you can then sublimate it into something of "higher nature", you are doing internal alchemy, the root of it's power, what fuels it, will still be that instinct, but maybe instead of creating an extension of yourself, in a materialistic way, a child, you end up creating an extension of yourself in other terms, like a legacy of some sort due to your projects or whatever you do.

    Purpose on the other hand is optional, you can have it or cannot have it, you choose it, it can be a high or a low purpose, is up to you.
     
  11. determined99

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    I don't even want to fuck, I want to look.
     
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  12. I read a manual on Buddhist monastic rules, and in it voyeurism is classified as a type of sexuality that doesn't stop someone becoming a monk. So maybe you're all good.
     
  13. Only a Sith deals in absolutes.

    For me anyway put a label and say all Men want sex or all Women want sex is a Marxist idea of take humans and put them in a dualistic materialistic perspective, like we have bourgerie and prolet, there is no other chance, you can't be balanced, you need to orgasm every day or you never do it. Is the eternal fight from good and bad, Materialistic or spiritualist, NoVax and ProVax, Sith and Jedi, the Lord or Belzebu, you need to be always deployed, you can't be a Grey Jedi or a Free Vax, because both sides always say "You are with us or against us".
    We are in an age were we pretend to be biologic robots that need to work and reproduce and die, and stay blinded when you tell to them that thoughts and consciousness aren't material and they don't work like digestion of the stomach, and pretend to know the real nature of this universe despite we perceive just 5% of it with our eyes, 95% is hidden in Dark Matter that we don't know what it is (Aether? Akasha?) and scientists pretend to tell you that if you don't fap you will have cancer in 2 days or you balls will explode.

    I know i am going in off topic but is so funny
     
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  14. People who talk in absolutes are idiots. Don't pay attention to such stuff.
    "All men need sex."
    "All women care for is money and looks."
    "All blah blah blah."
    This is all poppycock. True in some instances, and a waste of breath in other. Focus on your own development.
     
  15. Women want only bullies muscle guys with beautiful looking face
     
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    You dropped a nuke, 50% of nofap has left the chat.
     
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  17. SickSicko

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    Agreed, the middle way is the way.
     
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  18. modern milarepa

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    Our body and mind are programmed to have sex. We have reproductive sexual organs what's the point of a penis or a vagina: to reproduce. Only an urethra is necessary to pee. we are animals after all. When age and hormone production starts to decline the need for sex also diminishes.
     
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  19. Everyone in ths thread is talkjng from their personal experience, there is no true answer to this question, it all depends on the person life and story.

    Some men need sex others don't for mutiple reasons.

    I read yesteday an post on Quora about a guy who had sex regret it for the rest of his life due to his Partner wanting to have a Baby after being pregnant, the guy regret that for the rest of his life. and he'll have to become a Father for the rest of his life!

    Use your Brain! Use your Brain brother, This Sex thing isn't necessary or a big thing once you go on a very long monk mode.

    Also remember behind any Problem there is profit to be made!

    So yes, Creating a Problem to Masses so that a Group of People makes a profit out of it, Whenever someone says something, Question who the f*** they are ? why are they saying that ? what is their philosophy and on and on... It's called Critical Thinking, You better read a little about it, it will turn out to be helpful, Good Luck!
     
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  20. Obviously not, since many just PMO rather than have sex.

    Of course there's a question of QUALITY of life. You can be alive while PMO'ing and edging like there's no tomorrow and live in brain fog, or you can ... well, not - whether you have actual sex or not.

    So the question might be is actual sex better than PMO, or is being celibate better than PMO? With the former many would assume yes, but apparently the penis and brain wiring doesn't know that in many cases since some people are in a relationship and still fap. With the latter you have to actually try it for more than a little while to know, and it probably doesn't mean just the absence of PMO but actually doing something else in life. Even when people have fairly long streaks if they're just basically holding out as long as they can without doing anything else they'll probably never see the value of living like that - because there's probably not much value in the way they're doing life - the absence of sex is just incidental in that case.
     
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