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Do these things make sense?

Discussion in 'Rebooting in a Relationship' started by Squirrel 74, Feb 24, 2021.

  1. Squirrel 74

    Squirrel 74 Fapstronaut

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    Hi everyone

    My partner seems to be doing well on his journey to recovery from porn/ cams and really engaging with his counselling and opening up about emotions. One thing I’m concerned about is whether he is still lying about things: I know that a lot of addicts lie, but now even though he is working on it it’s difficult to know what to believe.
    One of the things he has said is that he is experiencing very few withdrawals from pmo (he is on day 50). He has has urges to M but not specifically related to porn, more like a physical feeling of wanting to do it. He says he isn’t having any flashes of porn or anything. He says all of his urges have been more towards me (we are not having sex but have been more affectionate over the past few weeks which turns him on). Obviously I’m glad if this is the case but I wonder if it’s realistic given his porn use for 15 years?

    another thing is he has said that he never used to think about porn while having sex with me. He said he completely separated those two ‘worlds’ from each other. Does this happen for some people? Maybe I’m just overthinking it because I’ve read so many things on here about addicts thinking about porn while having real sex.

    I’m struggling to trust what he says at the minute so any insight would be appreciated!
     
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  2. Trobone

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    Does he see a therapist or go to SAA meetings or at least have an accountability partner?

    I'm about 225 days in. I can say from my experience the urges and flashes and stuff came in brief flashes for me. I'd have a hard day because of something I saw on buzzfeed or a text from my poker buddies. So if she asked me on an easy day I could easily tell her honestly that that day I was good and things were going well. If she asked me on a bad day I'd have to honestly tell her that it was a harder day.
     
  3. No one can really know for sure other than you, fam.
    I would trust him if areas in his life are all better now, though.
    For example: He cares more about you. He's more well grounded. He's been in a good mood most of the days.

    Hope y'all be happy together.
    Have hope and good luck
     
  4. palindromo

    palindromo Fapstronaut

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    just support him. If he falls , don't blame him or he will lie in future.
    Remember he needs support , no judgement , no untrust
     
  5. p1n1983

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    Figure this out, or you are in or out. A relationship cannot work without trust.
    Choose to trust him blindly and support him in his journey or don't and move on.
    If you choose to trust, of course trust him but verify in a few months that he is still clean.

    The idea is to avoid artificial stimulation and promote the real interaction.
    If you are already kissing and touching each other.. let it be and see what happens. Man and woman have needs and fullfilling them together will make you bond even more. Will make him want the real things and help to erase the artificial one.
     
  6. used19

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    My husband swears he kept it separate. I'm still not so sure I believe it, but it does appear to never have changed throughout other disclosures that did change facts. He kept his use very tame compared to many on here, so maybe he was able to really keep it separate. He's very good at compartmentalizing everything else, so I hope for my sake that it is true.
     
  7. Squirrel 74

    Squirrel 74 Fapstronaut

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    Thank you all for your replies!
     
  8. Squirrel 74

    Squirrel 74 Fapstronaut

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    It sounds like you and I are in similar situations. My partner is also very good at compartmentalising.... to the point he would be able to be texting me and acting totally normal while doing all of that stuff. It hurts. It would be nice to know for sure without having to trust, although I know if we continue as a couple we’re going to have to try to rebuild trust at some point.
     
  9. used19

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    I think the best you can do is try to get a full disclosure, get it all out. Then he has to work on building trust over time. Look into reading Worthy of Her Trust. If you aren't religious it does have a Christian tone, but it is still valuable even if you are not. The message still applies.
     
  10. Psalm27:1my light

    Psalm27:1my light Fapstronaut

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    As harsh as it sounds almost all continue to lie. That’s why a full disclosure with a csat confirmed by a polygraph is the standard recommendation. Having gone that route, the polygraph helped me so much. I made it a boundary and the only think I regret is not having one done once a year. It helps keep them honest! Plus it helps assure me I’m really getting the truth and not just a watered down version, where he feels it’s enough truth to build trust but not all of the truth, which still keeps him in his addiction cycle. The group I’m in won’t even work with couples without a full disclosure and polygraph because they’ve learned that too many continue to lie. Honestly, the polygraph with disclosure is as much for them as it is for you.
     

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