Do women feel pressured in relationships by porn?

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Warfman said:
I agree, and wasn't trying to imply that any of that isn't very real.

Don't know why I feel an obligation to say something in threads like this but sometimes I feel someone needs to say something about men's perspective or it is nothing but how men are the problem in everything, which isn't true.
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I agree completely with you. Not arguing with you at all. Sadly, I think because women have not had the same advantages and opportunities as men up until recent years , you have the rabid feminist who don’t just want equality, they want to flip it and oppress men. They seem to be the most vocal.
 
Warfman said:
I'm not saying that a woman shouldn't strive to pursue a career, just pointing out what a man desires, this just seems to be getting worse and worse. If I was a kid in these days, I'd feel pretty dang worthless. Young boys need built up, not torn down, and that message seems louder and louder anymore. When I don't feel appreciated, P addiction urges are SO much louder and harder to control.
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This is my main gripe with what passes for feminism now. However, it's not just the messages and expectations they set for boys now but girls too.

We had some friends over the other day and they were commenting on how girly my 2yo daughter is. She has a doll, plays with her pram, loves shoes and brushing her hair, that kind of thing. Without basically any encouragement, there's plenty of boys' toys in the house, it's just what she likes. And they were like, wow, what are you going to do about it? As if her liking girly things was a problem that needed remedying.

It's not the only time it's drawn negative comment from family or friends either. My two little lads are very boyish and we've never got any comments about that, but a 2yo girl liking dolls and tea sets is apparently cause for concern. It's a weird thing where people take issue with a little girl acting like a little girl and call it feminism.
 
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This is my main gripe with what passes for feminism now. However, it's not just the messages and expectations they set for boys now but girls too.

We had some friends over the other day and they were commenting on how girly my 2yo daughter is. She has a doll, plays with her pram, loves shoes and brushing her hair, that kind of thing. Without basically any encouragement, there's plenty of boys' toys in the house, it's just what she likes. And they were like, wow, what are you going to do about it? As if her liking girly things was a problem that needed remedying.

It's not the only time it's drawn negative comment from family or friends either. My two little lads are very boyish and we've never got any comments about that, but a 2yo girl liking dolls and tea sets is apparently cause for concern. It's a weird thing where people take issue with a little girl acting like a little girl and call it feminism.
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I agree. On the subject of this thread too? Is it porn that drives the movement of hairless men? Is it a pre pubescent fetish of women? I don't think it is... But men get blamed for that... I know this thread is specifically about women. But it's worth pointing out I think. Men with chest hair is almost non existent in media, marketing etc. these days!

I think it's important to celebrate and cherish our differences.
 
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Warfman said:
I agree. On the subject of this thread too? It's it porn that drives the movement of hairless men? Is it a pre pubescent fetish of women? I don't think it is... But men get blamed for that... I know this thread is specifically about women. But it's worth pointing out I think. Men with chest hair is almost non existent in media, marketing etc!

I think it's important to celebrate and cherish our differences.
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I have wondered about the fad of men shaving !! I don’t like a man who looks like a gorilla but I do like chest hair and when my husband shaved his I told him I hated it
 
used19 said:
Ironically, I thought for a long time that if I shaved it all off that I would look like a porn star and I thought that was gross and my husband would think less of me. Oh the irony! Prior to dday, I finally said screw it I prefer things cleaner and did whatever I wanted for my own sake. Then I found out years later. I still struggle between what I prefer and feeling like I’m giving him what he wants. But he now seems to care about how he looks and shaves everywhere but his arms and legs so I guess we’re equal.
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yes. And I will echo what someone else said about the shaving and “pre-pubescent” look. The whole shaving any of our hair was created by guess who??? Gillette razor company in the 50s trying to shame women into becoming a bigger market for them. It honestly was not a thing before then. Sex is a huge market. We are not supposed to be wired to think no hair is sexy. We only have media and porn to thank for that. We are supposed to see hair and get attracted because the woman you are looking at is a mature woman. It’s kinda messed up what media and P have done to our brains. All for your money. I am more than a little mad. And very insecure even tho I get hit on and look as tho I’m 30-32 even though I’m nearing 46. I work out and use skin care. And constantly insecure about slipping as my P addicted husband is 28. It is both heaven and hell being with him. He is in all other ways perfect. This is something that we are going through together. And I see it as societies fault for allowing the tubes to happen. He is a product of free P. With little to no self control.
 
Sad_wife said:
yes. And I will echo what someone else said about the shaving and “pre-pubescent” look. The whole shaving any of our hair was created by guess who??? Gillette razor company in the 50s trying to shame women into becoming a bigger market for them. It honestly was not a thing before then. Sex is a huge market. We are not supposed to be wired to think no hair is sexy. We only have media and porn to thank for that. We are supposed to see hair and get attracted because the woman you are looking at is a mature woman. It’s kinda messed up what media and P have done to our brains. All for your money. I am more than a little mad. And very insecure even tho I get hit on and look as tho I’m 30-32 even though I’m nearing 46. I work out and use skin care. And constantly insecure about slipping as my P addicted husband is 28. It is both heaven and hell being with him. He is in all other ways perfect. This is something that we are going through together. And I see it as societies fault for allowing the tubes to happen. He is a product of free P. With little to no self control.
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I personally just have sensory issues and really prefer to not have hair on my body. I can remember as a teen hating that hair was growing anywhere and wanting it gone. So it makes me angry that it has to even be a porn image thing to begin with. For my personal preference for myself, it’s totally sensory issues (and don’t even get me started about a hair in the mouth). It’s interesting because I have girl children who don’t seem to care about having hair that much and I have boy children freaking out about growing hair and sneaking off to steal my razor to get rid of it all. So I think it is possible to just not like hair growing all over the body without it having to be a societal pressure thing. I’m trying hard to teach my children that removing it should be about personal preference for their body and how it feels. (And if they decide they don’t want it, to ask for safe tools to remove it).
 
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