Do you think porn can escalate to child porn ?

Discussion in 'Porn Addiction' started by CodeTalker, Jan 23, 2020.

Can child porn be induced by porn escalation ?

  1. Yes

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  2. No, you need to be attracted to children first

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  1. CodeTalker

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    Or do you think you need predisposition for that ?

    That makes me wonder because we can see people being attracted to gay porn and shemale when it was not the case at first.
    Child porn is even more extreme and on top of that illegal.
     
  2. Overforme

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    There is no telling what starting this addiction will escalate to. Ted Bundy wasnt born a nut case.. porn did it to him. It's all in his interview on YouTube. He blames porn. Learn from him.
     
  3. CodeTalker

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    Ted bundy clearly had some deep psychological issues, I watched the whole interview few months ago. Porn can’t change someone « normal » into what he became, no way. but this is another topic.

    Here I’m more talking about attraction about child porn. Not necessarily becoming a predator.
     
  4. Kligor

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    I don't really know,for me this didn't happened.
     
  5. IGY

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    I assume that it can.

    It is one of many illegal extremes that people escalate to. o_O It may not indicate they are a paedophile per se.
     
  6. CodeTalker

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    Yes, I think there is a huge difference between a pedophile (exclusive interest in child, not simply sexual) and a porn addict that watches child porn because other kind of porn is boring.
     
  7. White Spook

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    Yes, I am sure it can escalate but it doesnt happen with every porn addict, it depends on the person and his taste for certain types of women, it also depends on what kind of problems the porn addict could engender and so it may lead him to escalate to child porn, for a long time I became obsessed with teen porn and after I experienced a strong desire and attraction for underage girls, and I got frightened so much because I knew it it was because of porn addiction.
     
  8. Alexander.s

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    Thanks for sharing this addiction can get bad and you may always be addicted to other types of porn you just have to keep on dealing with it in a strong way. Tell me, how are you doing nowadays?
     
  9. Ibnmorales

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    its hard to say...but anything is possible I know once you really engage in porn and are on these porn sites you do find yourself looking at more disturbing things.
     
  10. ensour11

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    "Do you think porn can escalate to child porn ?"

    I totally agree that regular use, desensitization and frequently "pushing the envelope" of content can escalate to more extreme porn tastes. It all depends which "road" of porn the person goes down.

    For example, someone might have started out with Lesbian, and before they know it they're into FemDom. Or, someone who started with MILF is now into mother-incest. Well the same goes for Teen. It starts with babysitter/schoolgirl, to "sister's friends" and then increasingly into the family unit (step-sister, sister, ddlg, ageplay, etc.). This is especially true with contemporary mainstream pornography. Just follow the road downwards and you can see where it leads (always somewhere BAD).

    Now, we've clearly seen on these forums that there's a distinction between a person's tastes in pornography and their sexual orientation.
    Coming back to your question, I DO believe that someone who frequently consumes porn, depending on their initial tastes CAN, over time, end up slipping downwards into illegal underage stuff. This does not necessarily mean that they're a pedophile. It just means their porn tastes have become increasingly deviant due to desensitization and "pushing the envelope".

    I have to be totally honest, I was one of those guys who pursued the "Teen" route, and after a couple of years I did NOT like where I was, and luckily I was able to wake up and see what was waiting for me at the end of that road. This is around the time I significantly reduced my porn use. I was also extremely disturbed by how easy it was to find underage porn on your average search engine. I never directly searched for it but, due to the "categories" I was into, it would always pop up. That's when I realized that pornography isn't just another type of media, it is a substance that gets you hooked and keeps you coming back endlessly for more. And although I never searched for or did anything illegal, I will always have the moral wounds from being exposed to that content.
     
  11. Onwards90

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    He was fucked up because of his childhood by the sounds of it
     
  12. RiseToGreatness

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    it does, yes. i read a study some months ago, unfortunatelly i don´t which was now, but it was a research that included child molesters who where arrested. all of them were porn users. many of them said they never though on hurting a child, but after some years most of them raped a child.

    obviously not all porn users will develop sexual deviant impulses, but no doubt that porn is connected to the appearance of those impulses. Like Ted Bundy said "you will always want something more extreme, like an addiction"
     
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  13. romeolima

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    I think this is possible a skewed statistic. In all likelihood those who are attracted to children will explore this through porn (ie. not real - in their eyes) before they would go so far as to hurt a child themselves, therefore it is likely that all those who abuse a child will have used porn.

    I put no as the response to the question.

    Porn can lead people in lots of different directions and open people up to a world of sexual exploration. Many people fall into many such rabbit holes, but the vast majority of these things are not illegal, BDSM, Femdom, TS etc. I still think there needs to be an underlying willingness to cross that line between adults and children.
     
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  14. Dizzy Lotus

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    Hm, maybe. Personally, I've never known this process of escalating porn use, and of desensitisation to certain forms, except in the very beginning when I was just beginning to expose myself to nudity. But if heterophile males can start watching gay porn... then escalating to child porn doesn't sound impossible? [​IMG] However, child porn is illegal. And I hope that to most this would be a very big barrier. I don't know how easy it is to access, though. If it's a few clicks away I could imagine it happening to someone in an exceptionally weak moment, deep into addiction. I personally have never paid for porn although I've been tempted to a few times, and if I had my Paypal details filled in in my browser and could buy something with a click, it's possible that I would have done so. But having to input your details and confirming your payment seems like a great barrier. (fortunately [​IMG])
    I don't know if it can! In any case you should make sure it can't. [​IMG]
     
  15. Gota

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    You made some good point 'other kind of porn is boring'. I can tell from my own experience, with years most of porn doesn't worked for me anymore, I needed more and more extreme content to get the same thrill. Sometimes I used to spend hours endlessly browsing tubes and wasn't able to find anything that still excited me. At some point I started to watch bestiality movies. It was a 'forbidden fruit' and it gave me a thrill, at least temporary. However in real life I would find bestiality totally disgusting.

    I think it's very important to understand that with time 'porn addiction' slowly turns to 'dopamine addiction'. Casual porn stops working for you and you need more and more extreme content to get the dopamine release that your brain is craving for. 'Dopamine addiction' can lead you to a very dark places, be it child porn, bestiality or any other illegal stuff.
     
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  16. majorfiddle23

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    I have not watched Child porn but I have been curious about it at the peak of my addiction. I think porn has stages like an Iceberg, it’ll keep getting more extreme the deeper you dig .

    pls stay sober of porn and specially Child-porn
     
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  17. The answer is categorically yes, it can do. It has been documented.

    What happens is that, because porn is a supersimulus and how the brain responds, whatever porn turns you on gradually stops turning you on. You need new and, crucially, shocking porn to turn you on. Even if it's something that you hate! Such as gay or shemale porn for straight people; straight porn for gay people; BDSM; violence and rape; underage porn; coprophilia and urolagnia; necrophilia; enforced chastity; sissification; bestiality; other paraphilias; and so on.

    Each person ends up taking their own path, so it might be just a matter of (bad) luck whichever way you go. And yes, if you happen to go down the younger-and-younger path, it can indeed lead to underage porn.

    Unfortunately, if not caught in time, for a few people, their new fetish can escalate into acting these out in real life. Some are relatively harmless, such as the fetish for enforced chastity, but some are genuinely harmful, such as paedophilia or violence.

    You might find it helpful to read A Science-Based Case for Ending the Porn Epidemic (long read). This explains in lay terms (that even I can understand) how it works, and gives plenty of links to scientific research for those who wish to get into the technical details.

    If you are now watching porn or having a fetish that once upon a time you would have scorned, you know that you have already walked through the entrance to hell. A hard reboot combined with therapy is the fastest way to get back out.
     
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  18. RiseToGreatness

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    i don´t think is that simple. people who are constantly exposed to super sexual estimulation can increase their appetits for things they don´t even imagine liking in the first place. many cases reports the gradual excalation to (like you said) BDSM, Femdom... and so even more: rape fantasies, gay porn, scat, etc etc...

    when people enter those kinds of domains how much more do you think it will take to go even further down the hole? where the limit is drawn? the obsessive user can find himself in places that would be disgusting to him some time ago, but now they become the very things that keep´s him thrilled.

    i´m not saying that porn leads directly to child porn, God forbides. there´s other issues involved. but there´s definitely a link between continous porn usage and the developing of deviant sexual impulses. pedophilia is very rare as a mental disturbance but child molesters are everywere. just watch the news. how is that possible? most child molesters are married, have girlfriends and normal lifes.... so where do you think they got the weird fantasies and impulses?
     
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  19. Arnuld

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    Chronic porn use can lead to an escalation into any genre including CP. I’m sure there are plenty of guys that are freaking out thinking that they are pedophiles because of escalation into CP just like guys are constantly freaking out that they are gay because of escalation into gay porn. CP is just much more taboo and illegal so it’s just not being discussed.
     
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  20. People can learn to like anything, in addition people experience huge personality changes when they are sexually aroused.
    We loose allot of our rational thinking and reasoning ability during strong sexual arousal, you can say we turn in to animals and that is a fair assessment.

    Somehow people enjoy very perverted things while aroused, and then feel guilty about enjoying them when they are at work.
    Does that not show that there is a significant difference in how individual thinks in these different settings?

    One of the biggest reasons people cheat on their partner is because they indulge in arousal with another person too long and loose willpower to stop.
    As sexual arousal grows individual looses more and more of their rational thinking, self control, judgement and willpower.
    Once the act is over, they realize what they have done, and they are very conflicted. Despite just having sex outside of marriage they have hard time believing they did it.

    This is also why stopping pornography use seems to be difficult, because it is tied to arousal.
    If individual does not have sex or masturbate, their sexual arousal grows to entice them to have sex.
    This arousal begins to interfere with their self control and judgement and willpower. This happens gradually and the longer individual abstains the more "dumb" they become.
    They should just satisfy their "need" and move on with life but people learn to associate sexual satisfaction with consumption of pornography.
    So they watch pornography and binge for hours.
    Then they confuse desire for sex with desire for pornography, and say they are addicted. In reality they are "conflicted"
     
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