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Does having sex have the same negative side effects as masturbation?

Discussion in 'Dating during a Reboot' started by savitri, May 11, 2018.

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What is your experience on this matter?

  1. Yes, it works the same way

  2. No, it's different, no harm

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  1. savitri

    savitri Fapstronaut

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    Hi guys! Two months later I'm back on the forum. So this is obviously a question to those who have some sexual experience.
    When we talk about nofap, our motivation usually stems from the associated side effects - reduced confidence and self-esteem, social anxiety, troubled making (and maintaining) eye contact, clumsiness and body stiffness when among people, etc.
    As a virgin guy, I wonder do these come as a result of intimacy with a partner too? Is the mere semen loss the culprit? Or it works differently?
     
  2. savitri

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  3. JustinX

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    This is not black and white question, I cannot see the correct answer in the poll. There are women which meeting will suck all of your energy, you will feel tired and low after seeing them and then there are women, who will make you more refreshed, gave you energy, totally recharge you even if you felt miserable.

    So the answer really depends on you, your personality, the women, how much compatible you are with them and all the circumstances of sex.
     
  4. Julius93

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    Don't forget about the brain fog. I want to know the answer to this question as well.
     
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  5. Headspace

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    I agree with @JustinX that there is no black and white here, but tend to say "no" by average, and thus I chose it in the poll.

    First of all, real sex is entirely different from masturbation. Do not believe that because you fapped a lot, you know how to please a girl and do not even believe that you know what you like yourself. I am not saying it is a lot better, like, more intense or more satisfying. You can have amazing sex and still relapse to masturbation when you are addicted. Firstly, I am saying it is different, like, it doesn't fall into the same category to the point that it's hard to compare the two. (Which is why it is illusionary to believe that you will be able to quit PMO more easily when you have a girlfriend.) Thus, when you have sex for the first time, approach it with a mindset of venturing into the unknown. Moreover, this is why it is best to do it with a girl who you really love and trust so you can approach it tenderly, slowly and carefully, rather than visiting a prostitute and not even being able to grasp what's actually happening.

    With this mindset, there is usually nothing to worry about regarding mindfog or semen loss. At least these worries shouldn't stop you from giving your virginity to a woman you love. It is the real thing, and as long as you don't try to act like a porn star, it won't suddenly get pathological. If you feel it's bad for you you can still have a talk about it with your girl and stop it until you feel you are ready.
     
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  6. Bucklord

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    That advise is crucial. It must be stated that what we see in porn has very little similarity to actual sex. They are nothing alike. Porn looks like the most unpleasant thing for the female 99% of the time and I think its tragic that this is whats influencing us as men.

    IMO the poll is a false dichotomy. Masturbation and Sex are waaay different means to an end. Sex can also be absolutely harmful depending on the partner and tendencies.

    Also, having regular sex while being a porn addict can hit you with a lot of guilt. There were many times when I would feel horrible because while i'm with my girlfriend my mind would drift to images i've seen.
     
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  7. As a husband, I agree, and I'd even say more: porn and sex are two completely different things. I'd say that when you have sex with someone thinking about porn stuff, it's porn, not sex. It's like a difference between an object and a person. You always have sex with a person, and you always have porn with an object, because a person becomes an object.
     
  8. kingpietro

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    Only if you have sex with a hooker or a girl you don't like just to not feel allone in my opinion thats the same as porn because you do it for attention not feeling allone
     
  9. LookUp

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    One word of warning. My wife really wanted to go to bed less than a week after I quit PMO. It really triggered me to want more pleasure as I was used to with PMO. I came to this site instead. We got together a couple of days ago and it did not trigger me. KNOW TYE SELF!
     
  10. After any kind of O, the biggest danger is the chaser effect because you just experienced something that felt great so the mind and body will want more. My personal opinion is that a natural O feels completely different to a porn O. A natural O comes with no guilt, no shame, large ego boost, energy boost, release of positive hormones, release of stress and all in all just a general good feeling. The first time that happened to me, I never wanted to go back to the PMO life that not felt good enough. Remember how one fap would never feel satisfying, so you would go again, and again, day after day but still not feel satisfied. Well a natural O can have you bouncing up and down the street with a smile for days or weeks.
     
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  11. Scenty

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    You've said it all, bro. After lots of relapses (those were before I got to know this site), I finally broke the bondage of PMO by now having a GF... I was a virgin before now, and was still a virgin when I started my "NO PMO" session which has lasted for 65days and counting... However, I gave up my virginity (even tho I didn't orgasm, so my PMO session is still intact) just before 60days into the streak.

    Sincerely, I believe that having a GF has in some kinda way helped me come this far on my quest. Because my mind is now occupied with the thoughts of her, rather than the self pleasure thought I used to have. Though this may not always be the case with some other person.
     
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  12. goliaph

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    Sex is completely safe and not as harmful as masturbation. It is very sad to realize that I only recently learned about the dangers of masturbation ... Due to constant masturbation, I got erectile dysfunction. I have been treated for two weeks and so far I have not felt any result .My doctor is surprised because this treatment helps almost everyone ... It's sad. He also said that I need to use pills agains ED and I doubt it is right and I don’t know if I should use such pills ... Your opinion ?? ?
     
    Last edited: Mar 27, 2020

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