Are you by any chance a woman?
No, I’m a big, ugly, bearded man - one who’s travelled far down the supposed royal road of ‘pickup’, one who spent years following all of the advice the manosphere had to offer, one who, during those years approached literally thousands of women using ‘pickup’ routines, and incidentally, retained so much semen at times, that his balls were almost bursting. I’ve lived the pickup lifestyle. I’ve tasted what it has to offer, I’ve seen the dark place to which the worldview leads - I’ve seen ‘pickup’ for what it is.
@Confi00 is only worried about female attraction, so this thread is about his topic, not about you bashing your ex-boyfriends. Obviously he is doing his journey for the wrong reasons (gaining female attraction), while picking up esoteric NoFap mumbo-jumbo like "semen retention aura".
The fact that
@Confi00 has a noble intention in wishing to better his romantic prospects, has no bearing whatsoever on the validity of the advice which you are feeding him. The truth is, its often, to use your language, ‘not giving a fuck’, which makes a porn induced social recluse so unattractive a partner in the first place; ‘not giving a fuck’ in every aspect of his life which has led him to where he is. The solution is all too often to ‘start giving more of a fuck’, but alas, along come the ‘pickup’ proselytisers such as yourself, telling these men that they need do the exact opposite.
Being indifferent is not the same as being a jerk, it's simply being neutral. Yes, an indifferent guy isn't going to shower a girl in attention and for her it might feel like he's a jerk. But it's exactly that indifference that is raising female attraction. You don't masturbate, you don't look at pornography. You don't care anymore, you don't give a fuck. As a result if you are really indifferent towards girls, you are not creating threads being worried about how much validation girls can give to you.
Supposing your hypothesis were true, and ‘indifference’ really were the panacea of personal attraction that you claim; if you are only doing all of these things as a strategy to increase your chances of sexual conquest in the first place, then you’re not really being ‘indifferent’, are you?
And, just as a little addendum - what would be the issue if I had have been a woman? You make it sound as though issues in male-female attractiveness are totally outside the realm of female experience, and understanding, when in reality women experience these issues firsthand.
Of course, its not really a surprise to me that you’ve made such a suggestion, since I know only too well from my time within ‘pickup’ circles, that this is in fact one of the ingenious ways that ‘pickup’ cult leaders try to prevent apostasy within the ranks, and thus one of the reasons why ‘pickup’ truly is, and can be considered to be, a genuine internet cult. The idea is that a man is utterly wasting his time in discussing such matters with women, since they are somehow less human than men; they are devious and do not have a man’s best interests at heart. They secretly like to be mistreated by ‘indifferent’ men as you put it, but they will never openly admit this.
Yes, ‘pickup’ does an excellent job of preventing its adherents from receiving information from both women themselves, and from healthy, successful men who are outside the confines of the cult’s sphere of influence - these men are branded as ‘naturals’, and ‘pickup’ wisdom tells us, that these men (often the very men that can best help someone who’s struggling socially), just like women themselves, are mystically and inexplicably unable to understand issues related to male-female attractiveness. Whilst in reality they, like women, often have far more experience of it, being more often than not, in healthy, stable, loving relationships. We are told that everything that they do is done unconsciously - hence the term ‘naturals - and that they are therefore utterly unaware; and by consequence that only the enlightened denizens of the ‘pickup’ world can really see into the truth of these matters. How very convenient...
