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Does porn make you hate women?

Discussion in 'Porn Addiction' started by 786Man, Dec 3, 2017.

  1. 786Man

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    Ok, so I've said it before. I first found porno videos at age 9 but didn't start masturbating until age 13. Even after finding porn, before jacking off, I didn't hate girls at all. But for the last 6 years, my feelings have deviated between:

    (Pretty girl) In my mind I'm saying PLEASE DON'T TALK TO ME I'M NERVOUS; You're too pretty to ever like me so please get the fuck out my way

    (Girls talking) OMG women are idiots, please shut the fuck up forever

    Like the sound of teenage/young women having fun/talking loud physically irks me.

    Has this happened to anyone before? Please help
     
  2. Zntrix

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    I feel like this is indeed an effect of porn, it might be because the genres you watched.

    If you quit porn I am sure those feelings towards women will fade too
     
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  3. This might also happen from exposure to other online attitudes - e.g. some RedPill or MGTOW sites can be very misogynistic. P certainly presents women as having no real life but simply a means to an end [self-pleasure] who do not exist in any capacity outside of acting as a stimulus to PMO. Reality certainly is not like this and the 'brain-training' of P and the expectations [or lack of them] that it creates when it comes to interacting with women might be causing you to react negatively to women who are 'not fulfilling expectations' or 'not behaving as they are supposed to'.
     
  4. Devil's Details

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    I wouldn't worry about it too much. There's nothing that says you have to like every chick you want to fuck.... those are two separate systems.
     
  5. I don't know if it makes you hate women. But I do know for a fact that it makes meeting women especially date them a lot harder. When I first started dating years ago, I would be really anxious and awkward around women and I didn't know why. Now that I gave porn 3 months ago, I feel like I can talk to anyone. I think it's just what porn does it numbs you out as a person, and reality is harder to deal with. But when you give up porn it seems like all the negative side effects go away.
     
  6. Reborn16

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    Porn did have an effect on how I view women. I think it went through three stages with me.

    At first I was resentful of how easy they got sex, that's what the porn made me think anyways. Then I was jealous and bitter. Finally I began feeling unworthy of women.

    No doubt porn took my motivation and confidence away when it came to girls in particular. I'm currently trying to get out of my third phase of thinking, and at the same time just reset all together. Start a fresh.

    And yes, I sometimes hear a group of girls talking about celebrities or something I don't care about, and it sounds annoying. But I also hear a lot of hipster guys who annoy me, or gym junkies etc. As long as you're not talking about most girls then it's all good.

    Your views will definitely change for the better through a streak though!
     
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  7. Reborn16

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    And when you see the pretty girl, and think that stuff in your head, it's just the porn ideas man.

    I get those same thoughts. But we've been brainwashing ourselves with hundreds of hours of seeing women the easy way, and not seeing the beauty of women by earning it.
     
  8. Sexuality is fluid, it can change over time. Sexual preference is not static. Can you try to have an open mind?
     
  9. JamesFord

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    Porn made you interpret girls not as humans, but as objects)) I am sure the porn made you think like this.

    Best solution, do no PMO, after a while you will feel more confident and stable, aproach girls, dont give a fuck to rejections, and when you will have a girlfriend or a woman friend, you position is likely to change.
     
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  10. Devil's Details

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    Porn didn't do that... being born a dude did. Fuck yeah they're objects.... or more accurately animals, when she's naked, sweating and grunting. So are you. If you're thinking in English while you do it, you ain't doing it right.

    But then you cum and you're both human again, and you can smile, chuckle, cuddle, and sleep like humans.

    It's not being objectified that women dislike... quite the opposite. They LOVE it from the right guy at the right time.
    It's being objectified by dudes they don't find attractive and/or when they're not in the mood they resent.
     
  11. While porn has a lot of downsides especially the addiction it also has elements that are good. For example I don’t thjonk it creates hate towards women rather helps letting out and living out all the taboo that was hidden in former times as my parents explained. I think at that time what was hidden in people was more dangerous
     
  12. I think it's unnatural to look at a screen and watch other people have sex. It took me a while to realize that
     
  13. ISFPdude

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    Idk, I don’t think porn has ever made me hate women, but that may just be me. Honestly, I don’t find it creates any problem for women that don’t apply to men as well, though that’s probably just because I’m bi.
     
  14. Damn right. You can't be a passive monolith all the time, and you can't be an Alphabeast Leviathan all the time. You gotta bring the beast out at the right time.
     
  15. Gotham Outlaw

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    This can be applied towards many groups not just women.
    I agree everyone has a sexual part of them. It's in our very nature. It's the only reason any of us are here.
    Youre goddamn right 14082017091143.jpg
     
  16. Dizzy Lotus

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    No, definitely not.
    I wonder, during this process, did you have best friends that were female all the time?
     
  17. Hitto

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    Porn has warped my mind into thinking women are something to obtain or possess in order to be a man it has made me jealous or resentful because women can pick and choose whoever they wanted and I had to settle also porn use to make me think that sex something as a right of passage and if I had sex with women it would give more confidence all not true I understand my mindset was completely wrong after an 8 month streak now I'm a lot more at ease because I'm not thirsting for sex or women I see women in the eyes smile and look them in the eyes with no shame because I don't want anything from them but I want to give them the gift of my presence and I'm a lot more playful and trying to not take interactions with them so seriously I'm just honestly enjoying the present moment and doing things to improve my life and finally starting to love myself I'm sure I women will show up if continue to do the things I'm doing porn emasculates you into over pursuing women putting them on the pedestal and making them sexual objects we must obtain for status when I'm actuality they are humans and should be treated as such my only goal is when I see a women no matter if I'm interested or not is to make them smile or laugh because pmo was taking away the charm I naturally had
     
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  18. JamesFord

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    During NO PMO cycle I met the girl which I love now very much, and which I will marry in march 2018.

    Porn addiction made me unable to receive and give true emotional feeling toward people in general, one of the best things in my life was getting away from this shit)
     
  19. Very very true!!!!! As long as the objectivation comes from "the chosen one" its fine. And there`s nothing wrong with it. I mean how great is it when a girl comments some parts of your body etc? Its as well not that in this moment she`ll talk exactly about your inner-self, but it still feels great. The thing is: It all happens on a safe background, where the objectivation is embedded in an emphatic net of understanding: you are an object but not only. And you return - as you described very well - to this human identity after being a "wild one" for a while. Thats the difference to porn and prostitution. There it all remains on the level of pure physical mechanique. The animal stays animal. You wont see no "aftercare", you dont see them talking etc pp. you just sit there and watch and watch and watch... The objectivation of an industry isnt the one of a loved one. It would be wrong to identify it with each other. Its as if one mistakes a good compliment with cat-calling. I mean seriously girls just love it. And no i dont mean cat-calling :p
    So one has as well to moderate what is often said about being needy. One shouldnt be needy. In the absolute this is wrong. Cause a women`s self-perception is based on the idea of being seductive and irrestible. And there comes the point where she wants to see how her appearance drives you crazy. She wants you needy. It all depends on the context. Porn i.e. designs a world in which it doesnt matter who you are and what you do and what happens around you, you are a women, you are needy, stick it in... the problem of porn is how it systematically ignores the subtle limits in which the things they show normally take place. And so they create completly wrong expectations in which you can get lost easily.
     
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  20. I think hate is the wrong word, people who 'hate' women tend to be physicaly violent abusers. I would suggest it's more an inferiority complex coupled with feelings of guilt and shame which is projected outwards towards the women you interact or don't interact with. I think porn exposure has affected both my view of women in the real world and also my self confidence/image since i used to draw many comparisons between other men and myself and assume mostly negative things as to why i didn't fit the mould of what i percieved women want. I used to have this feeling of 'why can't you just be more like porn women' 'why have i got to work so hard' it's basically being lazy and expecting things to be delivered to you on a plate, nothing in life is free, you have to put work in. Rejection is normal, men get rejected in life constantly but in porn of course the answer is always yes and that's where people get caught up in the false expectations. Imagine watching a porn video which had all the promises of being able to meet all your quirks and desires at the time and then when you get half way through before the good stuff the woman turns round and says 'actually i'm not really in the mood tonight, maybe another time' and then the man goes to the bathroom to relieve himself on his own and goes to sleep. that's more close to real life relationships than a porn flick which promises endless novelty.
     
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