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Does Porn REVEAL your TRUE desires - or distorts them?

Discussion in 'Compulsive Sexual Behavior' started by rockstarsteves, Oct 19, 2021.

  1. rockstarsteves

    rockstarsteves Fapstronaut

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    On problematic sexual behavior - I'm thinking the main issue people have is
    -addiction/compulsion
    -inability to connect with a real person in a non-transactional/non-objectifying way - these are the issues they want to correct/heal

    but other than that - when people get upset over their bizarre fetishes or kinks it makes me wonder - does porn REVEAL to them what they secretly TRULY like because they explored the porn? Or does it distort it? In some ways, it seems like men who want to change their kinks/fetishes only want to do it more out of SHAME for having them

    is their danger or harm in accepting what we like?
    i guess it would be dangerous/harmful ONLY if we can't distinguish between fantasy and reality or you feel worse after you engage in a "bizarre" act or pmo

    on the other hand, i've also heard of people who's "bizarre or kinky fantasies" diminished or went away from nofap - so then i wonder, is it because they returned to their authentic baseline desires or is this some form of denial/supression/repression?

    thoughts?
     
  2. greenishmoon

    greenishmoon Fapstronaut

    There's a lot to be said. I'll trim myself to the most important.
    First, your question. Does it matter if those are "your real desires"?. Let's go to the most observable truth, that is, that there is the desire.
    Then, what's desire? Well, a biological or psychological impulse to GET (I'm just defining through the writing, there's no scientific method here).
    So, people like me who watched pornography for many years had like everyone else the desire of meeting specific psychological (egoic in this context) or biological (bodily) desires. Then, the way those desires are met are a different issue. For people like us (who, in first term WENT for pornography, which is also another point to be researched) that behaviour could have changed exponentially over time the way we relate to those desires. The mind is a very malleable substance, and if you engage in activities that stimulates it (and the mind is always looking for stimulation, I suppose its it's job) then any "hole" or unmet need can potentially be turned into compulsion.

    Then there's the whole psychological (personal) aspect of every individual. I'll just finish saying that it's better to observe reality and start from there, than to look for causes and effects from inside the abstract world (in which you can lose yourself). "kinks" and "fetishes" are just words. Look at the acts and consequences of those and discern if that's the outcome or movement that you actually want (or "desire", here used in a deeper meaning of it, aside from the psychological/biological dialectics).
     
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  3. In my case, it modified already existing desires.

    Take cross dressing for example, this was something which aroused me before porn. Now, thanks to porn, I got into sissy etc

    Or let's say I like nylon feet, now thanks to porn some bare feet are nice, too
     
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  4. modernstore99

    modernstore99 Fapstronaut

    I’m straight, but attracted to transsexual or gay porn (or gay attracted to straight porn). What’s up?

    Is my fetish porn-induced?

    Why did my porn use escalate?

    Why is the idea of sexual variety so enticing?

    Studies reporting findings consistent with escalation of porn use (tolerance), habituation to porn, and even withdrawal symptoms

    The Effects of Porn on the User

    Sexuality and the Brain

    I can write out a longer explanation if you want, but in short, it has been found with increasing frequency that severe porn abusers' sexual tastes shift to activities/themes that they did not find arousing before, and may even seem horrific or unethical to the user. This is thought to be a result of our hunter-gatherer brains constantly seeking novel stimulation and ancient sexual brain circuitry that finds shocking, even scary, sexual stimuli more arousing than "normal" stuff.
     
  5. greenishmoon

    greenishmoon Fapstronaut

    There's many research on this. You can find more searching for porn / dopamine dependency videos on youtube. Mark Queppet is a favourite of mine.

    Once you see this in yourself it'll be easier to navigate. It takes a lot of time tho. More than a year depending on your habit.
     
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  6. modernstore99

    modernstore99 Fapstronaut

    I agree that after a reboot and having some normal sexual relationships, it's quite easy to distinguish between porn induced urges and your natural, innate desires. It's literally like night and day.

    No one knows for sure if the porn-induced urges will go away completely (since this is such a new psychological development), but I can tell you I was deep in the sissy porn hole just 3 years ago and my life is pretty dope right now.
     
  7. It's probably a bit of both. There will be people that discover new things from porn and people with existing interests that developed further with porn. It's also a question of where those existing interests came from. I personally think that porn fetishes prey on our insecurities as much as our sexual interests. Take someone with fetishes that involve humiliation/submission or control/dominance. Do they subconsiously lack that in other areas of life? Maybe.
     
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  8. Does getting addicted to heroin reveal your true desire to have the drug? Are you discovering something about yourself by having the drug? No this is garbage. It definately distorts your true desires, it's an addiction. the only true desire of sex is, when you analyze it, procreation, having a baby, everything else, all other sexual desires are a confusion.
     
  9. Candun

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    Anyone who tells you P reveals your true desires is either malicious or just retarded.
     
  10. Graysongert

    Graysongert Fapstronaut

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    Hah, when you put it like that its easy to see how ridiculous it all is. An escape for pain.
     
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  12. Peiskos

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    It distorts them because it’s a drug, you keep looking for the perfect video or photo online, the perfect scene..after a while nothing does it for you anymore because you’re getting desensitized, this is how PIED is born.

    Eventually you seek out the most vile bizarre porn available and you’re getting off on it because it’s new, it’s novel. It can be hard to climb out of this hole, once you fall in and start warping your mind to this garbage it just takes the reboot longer.
     
  13. In my experience yes it does. You can type in whatever triggers your fantasy as it will be on a screen in less then a minute. Which is why we feel dissatisfied because it’s tricking our brain into having it now and then realizing it’s gone within 10 minutes or less. This is why we feel so ashamed and depressed after.

    It’s just like trick or treat.
     
  14. WhitePanther

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    Absolutely not, porn does not reveal your true desires. Porn is a fantasy world. Your extreme fetishes is from a desensitized dopamin system that forces you into it. Also if you ever try to act on your fetishes, you realize that it's a big difference between the fantasy of the fetish and the reality.
     
  15. CaptainStrat

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    I can only speak for myself. My fetish was triggered long before porn.
    I was 7 years old, minding my own business watching The Avengers on tv when Emma Peel beat the crap out of some guy. My erection was immediate, the first one I ever had. I was deeply aroused and had no idea what was going on. All I knew was that I loved watching a woman beat up a man.
    It wasn’t until I was 12 or 13 when I found a discarded Penthouse Variations mag that I read about others being into femdom. I thought it was just me.
    Throughout my teens and twenties, I developed an elaborate set of femdom fantasies to feed my desires. No porn needed.
     
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