Eyy gents, just wanted to hit an important piece of a trap many fall in when they sign up for 'Loneliness' help. For whatever reason ( I've got some clues, but I will share another time), many of us cure loneliness with isolation - who does that? us! I've never spent time isolated, thinking & concentrating on 'My problems', then walked away FEELING BETTER lol. If anything, excessive concentration on ME, makes me feel much much worse. Giving a verbal report & puking (we all always feel better after puking) my feelings, my insecurities, my fears and inadequacies MAY help give perspective, but just puking in itself is futile. I only share this with you from a position of wisdom + experience - I've watched (and did it myself) guys try to comfort each other on these forums by giving each other 'feel good strokes, such as: you're valuable man, just keep thinking positive, don't beat up on yourself', and with the best of intentions, they are hurting rather than helping. It takes a lot of work to go face to face with life and really stand up straight without letting life beat you down, BUT it takes real sweat work. Don't just puke it, reach out to guys with real experience and wisdom and ASK what action can be taken.