DP/DR/BRAIN FOG

Discussion in 'Rebooting - Porn Addiction Recovery' started by Deleted Account, Jan 21, 2018.

  1. My brain fog is gradually improving. All the benefits are not happening overnight. I've been a hardcore fapper over the years been trying to give up porn seriously for 5-6 years now. One relapse gives me the debilitating withdrawals back.
     
  2. Glad to hear that bro! It honeslty gives me hope. I'm just worried if one relapse will bring all the symptoms back again. Will it ruin ur progress by a lot?
     
  3. Not that I'm planning on relapsing ever again
     
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  4. From my experience one relapse has kept me in a pit of misery (flatline) for years. I’ve come to realise now that as hard as this is you need to be committed at all costs if you ever want your life back.
     
  5. Ur right brother. We need to beat this addiction at all costs.
     
  6. Anurag12

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    I know two people who had withdrawals till 2 n a half year, they kept going hardmode, the reason they took so much time to recover because they were very hard addicted people who binged fapping over rough porn or humiliation type porn but they improved slowly.
    I was reading an article of Dr. who states pmo addiction withdrawals can last 4 years according to her patients whom she was treating so hang on guys. There is always light at the end of the tunnel.
    It's tough but gets better.
    I am too on Day 122 but only 60% recovered of my symptoms.
    Keep going btw there is no use of fapping although u r going through withdrawals.
     
  7. hows ur DP/DR any improvements, brother?
     
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  8. outwithold

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    To be honest I'm an addict and I believe the best way for me to successfully stay sober is by admitting that i cant actually stop from willpower alone.
    I've been in the driving seat the whole time during my progressive addiction and the evidence stacks up against me to say I'm guilty as charged.
    I've had to come to terms with admitting truths about myself.
    And during my journey i have to say I'm very,very grateful that I found meetings and a programme, it helps me deal with overthinking, resentments, anger and obsessional thinking.

    I just thought id share that.
     
  9. Anurag12

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    Yes, improving slowly, Years of fapping put us numbed with no emotions and now when we abstaining it replays those patterns, but sperm retention act as natural antidepressants so with time u will heal slowly by all the symptoms.
    Just hang on there, many people recovered slowly but they recovered.
     
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  10. outwithold

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    In many ways I guess for me its realising that I cant blame fapping and sort of think of it like its an external thing that took me over! Because I was the one actually acting on this stuff and doing it and for some reason.
    I mean its not like I was a perfect human being before fapping swooped in and possessed me. I had issues left right and centre in my attitude, mentality and emotionally in my life.
    And i guess fapping etc gave me a place to hide, now I've taken that away there's no place to hide.
    No doubt PMO has made my issues more prominent and added elements, but fundamentally I was carrying a lot of negativity prior to fapping, I realise this isn't going to magic itself away because I stop PMO, but I also realise from stopping PMO its cutting out the behaviour and taking away the senseless addiction to the buzz I got from PMO, so its a good step in the right direction to dealing with the state of, my attitude, my mentality and my emotional problems.
     
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  11. Anurag12

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    I had no problem except fapping, I never had all this issues before, I was doing well in every thing except my excessive porn and fapping issues, it's withdrawal effect and it's scientifically proven.
    I have read a sexologist's article and she was saying that fapping and porn mainly have mental effect and it lasts for 1-4 years for complete recovery. This rewiring is a real thing. Read about brain Plasticity.
     
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  12. outwithold

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    Time will tell if just abstaining from porn will be enough for yourself and if you are able to maintain no PMO for the time required to reset your brain.

    For myself it is a serious addiction and Im treating it no differently than if I were a drug addict or alcoholic.
    Research shows that not many drug addicts or alcoholics can through willpower successfully stop or maintain sobriety, and I feel the same way with porn/sex addiction. ive stopped for periods of time and always gone back, whether or not I would have been cured if I could have lasted 4 years is neither here nor there for me, as I couldnt last that long.

    I do believe with the right approach that an addict can stay sober/clean from the addiction for those periods of time and that the brain does 'rewire', but the fact is its also very easy to slip back into the addictions at any time, hence just stopping doesnt mean we are cured.

    Ive had to be honest and look at my life, and I cant truthfully say I was happy with my life, and if try to make myself believe I was, then there is a mountain of evidence asking the question as to why did I wont to escape reality.
    Equally in the mix of it all I became pretty uncontrolled in my addictions, and given free rein I would do the same again.its just the way Iam.
    I believe as with any addiction there will be withdrawal symptoms and problems, but Im not just going to pretend to myself every negative or symptom I feel for the next 4 years is a result of PMO, or am I prepared to take my chances and hope I can hold on through willpower for an undisclosed period of time, so Im personally try to accept how I feel today and take action and doing work to enable me to maintain my sobriety.
     
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    It's withdrawal which is annoying me otherwise my willpower is super strong and I have now zero interest in porn or anything related to this and I don't have any other addiction. I don't know about others will power but I want my life back and I am determined with this. I know slowly slowly I will get back everything, You just can't be cured in just 1 or 2 year when u fapped 8-10 years.
     
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    I appreciate this post, since I think we should _not_ rely only on rewiring and brain plasticity to create a new life for us! Sure, it helps, but it's not going to rewrite the script of our lives. We have to do that.

    Sure, rebooting allows us to move out from under the burden of addiction, but it is up to us to envision and pursue the healthy, constructive, positive life that we wish to realize for ourselves.

    It's not just a case of "time heals all wounds." If we do not actively turn the bloodied swords of negativity, loneliness, depression, anger, etc. into ploughshares of community, justice, friendship, and love... the inner vacuum remains and the risk of falling back into one or the other nefarious habit persists, IMO.
     
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  15. outwithold

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    The problem for me when you say that Anurag ,and i mean no disrespect here but if your will power is super strong then why were you addicted in the first place.?
    And if you have truly no urge to use porn then you are cured id say. But you keep mentioning the withdrawal, could it be that which would make you relapse?
    or is the danger of relapse now gone for you and your just dealing with what you feel are the withdrawal effects of your past addiction?

    I certainly have to admit personally it wasnt an accident that I became addicted, I put a lot of hours into feeding my addiction.

    I know also I didnt need much persuading to PMO, I was pretty powerless myself and that happened pretty quickly. I think I became addicted to escape real life for a multitude of reasons

    I know one thing, the amount of times Ive relapsed is all the proof that I personally need to realise I couldnt overcome the addiction through willpower alone.
    whether I want to spin it to myself as the withdrawal symptoms made me do it or admit it was my lack of willpower in this matter doesnt really matter as at the end of the day I relapsed.
    My addict mind doesnt care which one it is either, its happy as long as im a slave to my addiction.
     
  16. outwithold

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    A great post, ty.
     
  17. it gets easier to abstain over time. You just you just got to keep in mind why u wanted to quit in the first place
     
  18. outwithold

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    I think when people say they have no problems I'm very dubious as I haven't met a human being yet who isn't struggling with one thing or another.
    I think we can all be content if we are living true to ourselves but there will always be problems and issues that affect the way we feel and think at times.
    But I do believe if we realise some stuff about ourselves and live true we can be better placed to deal with these things.
    Some of the addicts I know have been clean for 20years or so, they have good jobs and good lives but they openly admit they still struggle at times and have to keep things in check, and that's 20+ years.

    Personally I feel nobody can really say things like if it wasn't for porn withdrawal id have no problems.
    But if that's truly the case and they carry no baggage, no anger,no resentments etc then maybe thats the case. However realistically even with everything good in place, I know one thing and there's always problems on the horizon so for me we have to be careful our excuses for our behaviour and addictions dont conveniently move to the next problem and carry on feeding our behaviours and addictions.
     
  19. Well, obviously you can't blame PMO for all of your problems. However, for some people it might have been the precursor for them. PMO can cause more depression, fatigue, ED etc. So if they abstain these types of problems will go away.
     
  20. Will power alone cannot beat this addiction. You have to make yourself busy and use your energy. So, you have no time to even think about it. Over time you can be healed, anyone who says otherwise, I disagree with them.
     
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