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Ejaculation : it's just not possible for me anymore...

Discussion in 'Abstinence, Retention, and Sexual Transmutation' started by Vedas_fr, Jul 27, 2018.

  1. overclocked

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    It's really weird but not that unheard of. It might still be a symptom of fapping too much.

    Might also be psychosomatic. If you your self talk suggests that sex and ejaculation is bad for you, your body might react in such a way when you do have an orgasm.
     
  2. Davidphd1866

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    I fully agree with Vedas. I think we ALL pay a price (some more than others) for ejaculation. And in my humble opinion, if procreation isn't desired, then there is no need for ejaculation. Men are better off without it.

    If I could simply flip a switch and never ejaculate again, I'd flip it without hesitation. My problem is that I still have not conquered the urge. I am working on it.
     
  3. Robane

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    There is a book about Taoist sexual practices for both male and female called the Tao of Sexology by Stephen Chang. It talks about the benefits of semen retention for males, but also suggests a time table for when to schedule ejaculation without having to experience the negative effects. I think a lot of the negative effects that accompany ejaculation can be avoided by having the proper diet. You have to replenish the nutitrients lost after ejaculation. Increase your water intake, cut out meat and eat more fruits and vegetables. In the book I mentioned, it states that there is a lot of nutrients and minerals that are required to produce sperm. So if you ejaculate excessively, your body will have to overcompensate for this by pulling all those nutrients/minerals from your tissues in order to produce the sperm. Also testosterone is necessary for sperm production, muscle growth, and libido. So when we deplete our sperm count, more testosterone is used to replenish sperm count, and less is left for muscle growth libido, etc. This is why it’s harder to get results at the gym after ejaculation.

    To wrap it up, infrequent planned ejaculation is okay if you promptly replenish your body with the necessary nutrients and minerals to build back up the sperm count. Sex without ejaculation is the preferred method of intercourse according to Taoist principles.
     
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  4. EmmyB

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    +1. In times before contraception was invented, I would guess most men hardly ever ejaculated. It has become more normal to do so now we have birth control, and also the taboo against masturbation has reduced or gone away. So I don't think it's the natural state for men to ejaculate more than maybe a few dozen times in a lifetime. We shouldn't be surprised it's so destructive to human energy.
     
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  5. Vedas_fr

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    Yes before people didn't have pornography, less exposure to sexualized culture, married early, so they probably had their fair share of sex in their twenties, did not masturbate frequently or almost never, and then when they reached 30 or 35 sex life greatly slowed. So i think yes men ejaculated much less. Had other things to do and i noticed a lifestyle outdoor, physically active, does not make you prone to masturbation.

    There is something i noticed during my previous 102 days streak: i became much more muscular!!! Without doing much about it except eating well and a little bit of physical activity and rest.

    If you are really serious about this you will. I am now able to go indefinitely without ejaculating without any troubles or difficulties...

    How can you not be single and not ejaculate... I think this is difficult, even just the idea of finding a woman like this seems pretty hard.
     
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  6. Light of Freyja

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    I agree mostly. Semen is the life essence of a man and should be held as sacred and not carelessly released. I have found that thoughtful ejaculation brings me closer to my partner so I do not forsake the practice but it's rare that I choose to do so. I feel vulnerable afterwards, less energy, less clarity, a bit emotional but the feeling of love intensifies and the sleep is restorative.
     
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  7. EmmyB

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    As a woman, I agree with this. Having decided to live without orgasm myself, from now the only guys I'll date are ones who will commit to doing the same, unless of course we decide to start a family some day. If he's not willing to do that I don't see how our relationship could be based on true spiritual connection and he would not be the one for me. Also I believe that men should be the leaders and stronger than women. If I can live without orgasm, then a man should be able to do the same!
     
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  8. Robane

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    In terms of ancient Taoist views on sex, there is no recommended restriction on female ejaculation. In fact, the reason why they encourage men to not ejaculate during sex is so that a woman could have enough time to reach the “9th Level of Orgasm” after having previous multiple orgasms. Thus, the Taoists encourage multiple orgasms for women and minimal to no orgasms for men during sex (unless for procreation).
     
  9. That's fine and all, and no offence intended if you're a serious Taoist, but it seems women get side effects from multiple orgasms (especially PMO) in a similar way as men.

    Refer to Cupid's Poisoned Arrow, the NoFap glossary, women's journals here etc.
     
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  10. Vedas_fr

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    Yep there is hormonal discharge, some women apparently develop incontrolable shaking after an orgasm and other weird symptoms. But it is true there is no semen manufacture for them, the though and taxing part is growing a baby in the stomach.
     
  11. No semen manufacture, true, but after orgasm women go through similar brain chemistry and hormonal changes as men, as far as I remember.

    According to the Karezza folks, it takes two or three weeks to recover from an orgasm lol.
     
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