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Escort challenge

Discussion in 'Compulsive Sexual Behavior' started by need4realchg, Nov 14, 2019.

Are you struggling with paid-sex?

  1. Yes— and I would join the challenge/group

  2. No, but I would like to join too

  3. Yes— but not interested in a challenge or a group

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  1. GA93JDeereboy

    GA93JDeereboy Fapstronaut

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    Hope I help motivate you to change!
     
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  2. seaguy44

    seaguy44 Moderator Assistant

    My concern is this. When the quarantine ends, I will get sex and will ask my sex friend about it. It's just crazy on that my last sex was on February 14th. Yeah we have valentine sex, but ever since then. it has been on my mind every single day.

    i'm single and I feel jealous that married men have sex with their wives and I don't. Just being honest.

    honestly I just wish that we men have sex drive that only activate one time a month similar to how women have their periods one time a month. That will make my life be so much easier, instead of constantly being horny. It's just amazing on how two testicles through testosterone really dictate my life! Just feeling a bit frustrated.

    I wish each one of you a strong journey through this.
     
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  3. Well done mate coming out about it is the first step. It's amazing the lengths we go to, to fed this Addiction. I'll be brutally honest man and its going to be tough to process but please do try to take this in. You obviously love this girl you just married and want a happy future without escorts and a healthy relationship with PMO or maybe you want them out of your life for good. Take action now and seek help within these forums, journaling daily,getting yourself an AP (defo do this and message each other once a day checking in), exercise for that lack of dopamine your getting from PMO + escorts, meditate and I would also suggest getting a Councillor to talk to about these issues.

    My GF found out about everything and it turned our life upside down and we went through a rollacoaster of emotions the last 3 months and are still going through a lot of shit. We're trying to work on ourselves first before we try again with each other if that's what she wants down the road as she really is messed up from what I've done to her. In terms of coming out to your wife about the escorts that's the million dollar question because that in some cases can end a marriage and is quite hard to come back from mentally. It's weird with addictions like alcohol the partner of the addict just wants them to get help and is supportive and there for them but with sex addiction Its very personal for them, they question themselves whether they were good enough for you and what they didn't have that the escorts had (big tits,ass ect) and what they were doing wrong in bed ect. It rips them up inside but the thing is its 100% not personal at all, I loved my GF and everything about her and every part of her body and sex was amazing but to them its very personal and really hurts them to the core. I'm not going to tell you that you should tell your wife and seek help and hope things work out or tell you that you should keep it to yourself and seek help and kick the addiction to save the pain of the rocky roads ahead of your wife and yourself, what I can tell you is what my Gf said to me one day. She told me that she wishes she never found out about the escorts and lies, she wishes I realized what I was doing to myself and our relationship and seeked help and kept it to myself while kicking my addictions.

    What we seek from porn and escorts is pure fantasy and nothing else. what we have with our partners is real intimacy. The sad thing is fantasy wins every time when your addicted which is why we need to turn our lives around and tackle the head on and put changes in place!

    If you ever want to talk man hit me up!
    peace!
     
  4. Well said. It’s a mans need to share and a woman’s need to be protected. Picture the Snake biting ankle of giant.
     
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  5. i know what you mean about sex was on a schedule lol.

    But tbh I don’t think being married has ANYTHING to do with sex drive. Lots of marriages are sexless or sex deprived.

    Let’s ask— who here is having daily sex while in quarantine ?


    I did a poll about this a while back asking how many times married ppl have sex. Most ppl get laid 2-3 times a week at best—- but with the stress they might be like you and me. Fantasizing that marriage quenches your sex drive is the exact mistake I made.

    Marriage doesn’t give you permission for sex it gives you access. You STILL need to have permission. unless you are Viking ;).

    I have only one friend who has gotten sex During quarantine and He straight up told her “we are wearing masks , so no kissing “ lol. He’s a firefighter. I died laughing.
     
  6. Hey guys, following on from my previous post just coming clean about my relapse on Saturday. Long story short I battled with a thought and triggered me about a certain porn site/pornstar and logged on to see if that site by passed the blockers and to my suprise it did and I lost control from there on. I tried to log onto escort sites aswel but the blockers did there job for that so I watched two porn scenes and finished.

    first big set back since I've joined the forum and really gave it my everything, abstained till day 12 which I'm proud of but time to get back on the horse and learn from my relapse which I've gone in dept with to my CBT counselor,AP and Ex.

    Ok so I've a question for you guys and would like to hear your thoughts/advice, its in relation to my post above. Basically my Ex has had a lot of self confidence issues and body image issues and taken everything I've done personal to her which is totally understandable. She believes I had a problem with her appearance and had a problem with our sex life and thinks this is the reason I acted out with escorts. I've had numerous conversations telling her this is so far away from the truth that I love her and loved every part of her from her body to her personality and thought our sex life was great. I just don't know how else to express that this is the truth and that my addiction was about the sense of fantasy and thrill.
     
  7. GA93JDeereboy

    GA93JDeereboy Fapstronaut

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    Me, personally, I would have waited some time before I told my ex, if I even were to tell her, bc some things may be best unsaid. That’s me bc I wouldn’t want to do it to early or at all. Currently I been doing great and keeping away from that lifestyle.

    To make her better understand, she needs to learn that this is an addiction, and not her, she may start searching out why guys do this on her own.
     
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  8. I can tell you that there is an entire forum dedicated to the partner side of this question. given this is the problematic sexual behavior section it’s not as commonly discussed. One user in our board I highly respect has his partner/wife in nofap as well. @Mordobarn — he could give you feedback from a former PA perspective I’m sure.

    Generally speaking — sex addiction and porn addiction destroys everyone it touches. Women, men, kids, bystanders, etc. It makes sense your ex is self conscious after a revelation.

    what I would generally say about sex addiction in particular is that it RARELY has anything to do with sexual activity.

    sex is the drug we use to escape life’s problems. Could our problem be sexual in nature ? Yes it might but I’d bet +90% of the time, our motivation for acting sexually has little to do with sexual root causes.

    for example — the triggers for a porn addict might be:

    rejection
    Stress
    Work difficulties
    Financial stress
    Relationship issues
    Boredom
    Loneliness
    Business trip
    Feeling lost
    Depression

    Well for a sex addict it’s the same triggers but instead of porn we look to create real sex.

    On that basis I’d disagree with your ex’s assumption. I have ex girlfriends who told me their ex blamed them for his inability to maintain an erection. That hurt me so bad. I wish I could just hold her and comfort her until that memory could disappear. I could not believe how cruel that was psychologically to her. But truthfully women are what one pastor calls “incubators”— designed to nurture what they receive. In the biblical sense that would be life itself. But When men input pain, sadness and fear what is nurtured becomes control, manipulation, and bitterness.

    My last ex carried battle scars from the words which were used to hurt her. In a similar manner our relationship trauma can follow us.

    we can end up blaming ourselves for things that have NOTHING to do with us simply because we are misinformed or afraid of failure.
     
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    Wise words and so good to read, be reminded, learn, hear ... Thanks @need4realchg

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    (now kammaSati ... formerly knows as Samadhi Panna ... :) new name, new life, new chance, hoping my past won't find and further haunt me under new name hehe)​
     
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  10. Thank you for your kind words, but, oops, no, you're confusing me with someone else! I don't have a partner in NoFap. Actually, I don't have a partner right now :)
    Correct. What's not commonly thought of in these forums is that this is true not only for sex addiction but indeed for any type of addiction. Whether it's alcohol, heroin, whatever, the same applies. I had an alcoholic relative, and it caused much damage to all the people who were close — but he couldn't see it until he went to rehab.

    I keep seeing commonality between porn addiction and other types of addiction.
     
  11. Red Star

    Red Star Fapstronaut

    Hey,

    I'm not a primer consumer of paid sex, and i'm ok with what need4realchg.

    Having a girlfriend doesn't mean you have sex every day, ohoho no.

    About sex friend, I think seriously that sex friend are just 2 people afraid of feelings, but attracted each others and finaly they should become a couple. Cause when you fell sad, before to meet hooker, you text your sex friends and they can really make you day better and you have a emotional connection with her.

    About the "prostitute" problem, it could come from a processus wich begin by porn, then free cam, then paid cam and finally prostitute because you need to "feel" something and you can cheat your girlfriend sith lesser remorses than cheat you girlfriend with a sex-friend. It's me story about prostitutes.
     
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  12. apologies on mixing you up —- I will fix that !! Thank you for the comments all the same
     
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  13. Thank you friend — please allow me to ask ... do you identify as a sex addict?

    I understand many porn users don’t connect the two worlds (fantasy and real). In fact living out a fantasy would destroy their reality too. consider that as a sex addict, our escape has lots of new elements to consider.

    danger
    Disease
    Cost
    Frequency
    Legality
    Access

    Porn is free. I’d definitely expect more porn addicts because of this. But we don’t see the number of sex addicts the way we see porn addicts.

    I could be wrong but I doubt that all porn addicts will become sex addicts. That’s why the “escalation “ theory that porn leads to sex addicts to me is not reasonable.
     
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  14. Psalm27:1my light

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    I agree to an extent with this... just like many alcoholics will not become drug users, or pot smokers become heroin addicts. I think porn is a gateway for sex addicts but many porn addicts do not escalate to sex addiction.
     
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  15. Psalm27:1my light

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    Not daily because he doesn’t ask, but more than 2x a week. We only have 100 cases of covid in a county of 400,000 so it’s not a huge concern for me. Maybe it should be, but I’m not.
     
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  16. Red Star

    Red Star Fapstronaut

    Hey, I don't know honestly. But I'm feeling like a real Porn addicted guy for sur.

    The first time I meet a "pro" was after a party in Paris with friends. I saw my ex-girlfriend at this party , with it was a passionate and tragic story. I friend invited me to have some reliefs with cheapy easy hirring trans-girls next to it. Hosnestly it worked. But since I go often on escort website during PMO session, and as I don't have enough money, I can go only once per month.


    I think "escalation theory" doesn't need to bee a mathematical and absolute equation to be true in a certain way. In fact they have often more than just porn addiction. You encounter food habits, internet abuse, video games over-using... An addiction is rarely alone, and sex-addict ould be follow the first problem.

    Moreover fetichism and the habituation effect could be clues favorising an "escalation theory".

    But the most important, it's to get over it ^^
     
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  17. Welcome my man. You have paid for sex. Sounds like you also have a budget. When you are ready to accept the title of a sex addict let me know.

    I believe you are correct about a general disregard for rules as an addict we move through addictions like sand castles on a beach. Inhabiting one after another always restless.

    I agree fetishes can magnetize a mind; but porn is not the purpose of this thread — there are plenty of other threads that deal with that.


    je connais paris très bien aussi mec, je te comprends - et j’espère que vous aurait le victoire aussi.
     
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  18. Red Star

    Red Star Fapstronaut

    Hey,

    i thought about it this morning, and i remind me one night in another french city. A little drink + a cute girl (but not my girl). I had to go to the restroom, drink water, take a long breath, and say to myself "Holly shit man, what are you doing, stop it right now".

    And it wasn't the only one. So it could be.

    I've found sexual addictions criterias on internet. I think it will be clearer in few days or weeks when my mind wont be smoked by porn.


    What's about you by the way ?
     
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  19. yes — i grew up in Paris. I think to a large degree I was shaped by the experience and accessibility to sexualized culture. I am American so I have both perpspectives.

    I discovered I was both a porn and a sex addict when I joined nofap. I discuss that in my first journal which was my journey to beating porn here. https://www.nofap.com/forum/index.php?threads/the-fascinating-tales-of-a-double-agent.226409/

    I was also a porn addict but thank God and nofap I’m no longer a porn addict. I still identify as a sex addict and I’m here to work on that.
     
    Last edited: Apr 30, 2020
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  20. I‘m definitely a sex addict, too. And codependent. Guess latter led to main addiction. The need to belong, be protected and connecting ...

    May 1st! New month, new chance, new opportunity. With each month I am growing in strength so May I wanna stay sober 100%, zero tolerance.
    A buddy said to me the other day that acting out is the last thing to happen in a relapse. I totally relate. Got to be careful when first thoughts come, not to start the mental search engine.
     
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