Facebook Reels ALMOST made me relapse

I can't speak for all addicts, I can only speak for myself.
I realized I was lying to myself for many years about being a sex addict. Self-rationalizations and self-lying are a part of addict-thinking to protect the compulsive destructive behaviors.

How can I watch pornography 6+ hours a day, some with all sorts of fetishes and crap, and not have a problem with sex generally? I am still having sex, just with my hand and a computer screen. It's just so obvious to me now. But being unwilling to admit it (because of shame usually) meant that I didn't go to Sex Addicts Anonymous or other 12-step meetings. I kept lying to myself "it's not that bad."

If Im sacrificing everything in my life and having uncontrollable 6-hour binges with pornography the night before important meetings and tests, am 15 min late for everything, having panic attacks, anhedonia, insomnia, back pain, brain fog, rashes in my groin, can't maintain healthy committed relationships, etc...I clearly have a problem with sex. A problem that looks like (and is) an addiction. I am a sex addict.

And you know what? My life has gotten 100x better since I admitted that. I work a recovery program now, and it's radically changing everything in my life for the better. Denial is the #1 enemy in addiction, and I'm done giving into it.
Yes, but PMO is still not sex, right? I mean, I’m a virgin and have had over 6 hours of binge watching and other health problems you mentioned, but I've never had sex in my life.

So my issue is my misconception or wrong approach to sex. It's not that I'm a sex addict. Like I said, I’ve never had sex. Is that the same for you?
 
Facebook reels would get me too a lot. As all of a sudden I would see a video of a fat girl who was trying on new cloths appear in my reels and I would keep scrolling and scrolling and then I would be off to the races. So what I have started doing is just not looking at any Facebook reels. I can’t Use them I can’t look at them as eventually, I end up in the same place. As it’s amazing that you can make pretty much anything in the pornography when you’re desperate enough.

Bro, no one in the world understands you better than I do. I also like fat women (I developed this preference through porn; before watching porn, I thought fat girls were ugly), and I've fallen for the same trap countless times. Those Facebook reels are designed to keep you hooked.

Today, I realized that almost nothing on my facebook feed is productive—it was all garbage.

My "friends" on my friend list weren’t friends at all; they were fake. If something bad happened to me, they wouldn’t care.

So, I deleted my Facebook. Enough is enough.
 
I feel ya man. FB reels are like an IV image of sexually stimulating imagery and have let me to places I do not want to go many times. Personally, I find facebook to be a waste of time and energy outside of using messanger to stay in touch with friends.... and still somehow I find myself there again and again, like an addict, and, as you stated, no matter how many times I block/change preferences on reels... the girls are there 'displaying thier stuff"..... bah
Exactly. But you’ve got to delete the app, brother. I deleted my account for the second time in just a couple of months. I keep returning, but this time I hope I won’t come back.
 
Yes, but PMO is still not sex, right? I mean, I’m a virgin and have had over 6 hours of binge watching and other health problems you mentioned, but I've never had sex in my life.

So my issue is my misconception or wrong approach to sex. It's not that I'm a sex addict. Like I said, I’ve never had sex. Is that the same for you?

A person does not have to have sex with others to be a sex-addict. Masturbation and Pornography are sex with self (and P is also a kind of psychic sex with others), and anyone can become addicted to that. It's a common misconception.

Check out: https://saa-recovery.org/literature/sex-addicts-anonymous-green-book-saas-basic-text/
see if pages 9-10 sound like they might apply.

The only requirement for 12-step meetings is the desire to stop sexually compulsive behaviors. Having sex is not a requirement; we had a virgin in a meeting yesterday.
 
I'm sure many others are facing the exact same issue.


Facebook really needs to make a option where you can hide them for good. It's like they trumped us for having the hide tab and then they show up instantly when you load the page again or sign in.

I would definitely deactivate your News feed and Page. If it's getting to a point like this where you have to look at the Women in the videos or they are revealing or loose with clothing. You need to build a strong hold just like you closing out all of the tabs.
 
Bro, no one in the world understands you better than I do. I also like fat women (I developed this preference through porn; before watching porn, I thought fat girls were ugly), and I've fallen for the same trap countless times. Those Facebook reels are designed to keep you hooked.

Today, I realized that almost nothing on my facebook feed is productive—it was all garbage.

My "friends" on my friend list weren’t friends at all; they were fake. If something bad happened to me, they wouldn’t care.

So, I deleted my Facebook. Enough is enough.


My problem is, I realized I liked fat women well before I started porn. I think I’m just naturally a wired, like women with a small butt, huge breast and a big round belly. Which for my wife is a good thing as that’s kind of how she’s built.

And humorously enough my wife asked me to show her what porn I looked at so I showed her and she was a bit relieved as I wasn’t looking at 18 yr thin girl. She was still mad. I was looking at them, but less mad as she didn’t feel ugly. as she didn’t know that guys actually liked bigger girls. And she thought when I rubbed up against her belly and said it was very sexy that I was being sarcastic or was trying to get her to lose weight.

my problem is there are lots of girls on Facebook reels that look like my wife. as a result I fall into the trap. I’ve deleted Facebook off my phone. I’ve also sent a very strict no researching into any of my fetishes, ie fat women.
 
Facebook Reels keep showing me videos of immodestly dressed women on my feed. This happens because I have viewed similar videos hundreds of times in the past. Despite clicking 'Hide/See fewer posts like this' multiple times, these videos continue to appear.

Today, while checking my feed, it showed me those videos again. I couldn't resist and ended up on a porn site. After watching videos for 10-15 minutes, I managed to stop and closed all the tabs.

This has happened many times before. There's a clear pattern. Whenever I relapse, it's because of what I see on social media. I have no trouble controlling my eyes in real life.

So at this point, being on Facebook feels like being a sex addict in a brothel, trying not to get involved with the prostitutes. I'm just asking for trouble.

Do you think I should delete my account, make a new one, and just use it for messaging friends without watching reels?

I'm sure many others are facing the exact same issue.
Hey bro, having the same issue here. What helps me is not using Instagram and Facebook for sure, these are the most toxic ones. I usually use my phone 1.5-2 hours a day of which maybe 30-40 minutes are for social media. Of those 30-40 minutes I'm only using Strava, which is great for sports activities and stuff, LinkedIn, which is like a professional network, and X (make a new account and never look or follow anything related to porn). Hope this helps man, I know you can do it!!! Will follow this post as well.
 
A person does not have to have sex with others to be a sex-addict. Masturbation and Pornography are sex with self (and P is also a kind of psychic sex with others), and anyone can become addicted to that. It's a common misconception.

Check out: https://saa-recovery.org/literature/sex-addicts-anonymous-green-book-saas-basic-text/
see if pages 9-10 sound like they might apply.

The only requirement for 12-step meetings is the desire to stop sexually compulsive behaviors. Having sex is not a requirement; we had a virgin in a meeting yesterday.

I respectfully don't agree with that. You can't have sex with yourself.

"Certain organisms, like some plants and animals, can reproduce asexually or through self-fertilization. For example, some species of hermaphroditic animals, such as earthworms and certain snails, have both male and female reproductive organs and can mate with themselves. Some plants can also self-pollinate to produce seeds. These adaptations allow them to reproduce even in the absence of a mate."

Humans are different.

If somebody is a virgin and has a PMO addiction, he has a PMO addiction; he's not a sex addict. To say otherwise will confuse everybody. Just my two cents.
 
Facebook really needs to make a option where you can hide them for good. It's like they trumped us for having the hide tab and then they show up instantly when you load the page again or sign in.

I would definitely deactivate your News feed and Page. If it's getting to a point like this where you have to look at the Women in the videos or they are revealing or loose with clothing. You need to build a strong hold just like you closing out all of the tabs.
Exactly. I hate their algorithm. They didn't have such nonsense ten years ago, and they didn’t have ads either.

I deleted my account yesterday. We’ll see how it goes for me.
 
My problem is, I realized I liked fat women well before I started porn. I think I’m just naturally a wired, like women with a small butt, huge breast and a big round belly. Which for my wife is a good thing as that’s kind of how she’s built.

And humorously enough my wife asked me to show her what porn I looked at so I showed her and she was a bit relieved as I wasn’t looking at 18 yr thin girl. She was still mad. I was looking at them, but less mad as she didn’t feel ugly. as she didn’t know that guys actually liked bigger girls. And she thought when I rubbed up against her belly and said it was very sexy that I was being sarcastic or was trying to get her to lose weight.

my problem is there are lots of girls on Facebook reels that look like my wife. as a result I fall into the trap. I’ve deleted Facebook off my phone. I’ve also sent a very strict no researching into any of my fetishes, ie fat women.

It is so awesome that you have a wife who suits your taste, and your wife is lucky to have a husband who appreciates her body type.

One time, I told an obese woman that I liked her rolls, and I meant it. She was flabbergasted and glad at the same time.

You know something, I realized that the more I stop watching porn, the less I find myself attracted to fat women. This makes me think that it's not my actual taste in women, but rather a porn-induced fetish. I mean, I know how I got into this. I thought to myself, 'Nobody likes fat women, so it will be easier to get laid if I force myself to like them.' (Weirdo!!!) That's how I started watching that kind of content, and within a month, I found myself liking it. I think I unintentionally conducted an experiment on my brain. LOL.
 
Hey bro, having the same issue here. What helps me is not using Instagram and Facebook for sure, these are the most toxic ones. I usually use my phone 1.5-2 hours a day of which maybe 30-40 minutes are for social media. Of those 30-40 minutes I'm only using Strava, which is great for sports activities and stuff, LinkedIn, which is like a professional network, and X (make a new account and never look or follow anything related to porn). Hope this helps man, I know you can do it!!! Will follow this post as well.
Thank you so much for the great advice, brother. I deleted my Facebook and Instagram. Instagram is much worse, and I never liked it anyway. I don’t want to sound like a jerk, but platforms like Instagram and TikTok seem to cater to people without much depth. Facebook and Twitter are mostly text-based, which appeals more to the intellect. I’m thinking of setting up a Twitter account because, even if someone posts something nude, it only shows as a link on my Android phone. You only see it if you click on the link.
 
Facebook really needs to make a option where you can hide them for good.

Facebook and Mark Fuckerberg do not care about your mental health, your addictions, or your sanity. They have been very clear about this.

Whistleblower Francis Haugen leaked hundreds of documents from FB showing their own studies proved Instagram was increasing suicide among teen girls. Mark Fuckerberg ignored it.

the former Vice President of Facebook said it was "ripping society apart"
https://www.sciencealert.com/a-former-facebook-vp-says-social-media-is-destroying-society
They understand well what they are doing.

Trying to convince Facebook to fix their algorithm for PMO addiction is like trying to get your heroin dealer to give you a Surgeon Generals Warning when they hand you the needle. It's insanity.
 
I respectfully don't agree with that. You can't have sex with yourself.

"Certain organisms, like some plants and animals, can reproduce asexually or through self-fertilization. For example, some species of hermaphroditic animals, such as earthworms and certain snails, have both male and female reproductive organs and can mate with themselves. Some plants can also self-pollinate to produce seeds. These adaptations allow them to reproduce even in the absence of a mate."

Humans are different.

If somebody is a virgin and has a PMO addiction, he has a PMO addiction; he's not a sex addict. To say otherwise will confuse everybody. Just my two cents.

Sex does not equal Reproduction my friend. Those are two different things. The quote above is about the later, and I'm discussing the former.

Gay people have sex all the time, but they are not reproducing. I would define "stimulating organs of the body for the purpose of arousal and /or orgasm" as sex. It sounds like you are like me, in that you struggle with this same compulsive sexual activity, that is to say - sex with self and sex with computers.

I'm not here to convince you of anything though. You have to want recovery for yourself; I'm just offering one way of thinking about it. You don't have to admit you are a sex addict to attend 12-step meetings. I already said above what the criteria is - a desire to stop sexually compulsive behaviors.

It's logical to say "I don't like 12 Step meetings" or "I rather focus on NoFap groups" or whatever floats your boat. My only point is that you seem to fit the criteria for attending, and you will be welcomed anytime, regardless of whether or not your pp has been inside a persons body.

I relapsed for over 6 years (you can see my posts here) digging my own grave and driving a wrecking-ball through my life, contemplating suicide, and losing nearly everything, before finally admitting I was a sex addict. Since I made that admission and started working the steps, my life has gotten 100x better. But that's just me and my recovery. Maybe something will work differently for someone else.
 
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Sex does not equal Reproduction my friend. Those are two different things. The quote above it about the later, and I'm discussing the former.

Gay people have sex all the time, but they are not reproducing. I would define "stimulating organs of the body for the purpose of arousal and /or orgasm" as sex. It sounds like you are like me, in that you struggle with this same compulsive sexual activity, that is to say - sex with self and sex with computers.

I'm not here to convince you of anything though. You have to want recovery for yourself; I'm just offering one way of thinking about it. You don't have to admit you are a sex addict to attend 12-step meetings. I already said above what the criteria is - a desire to stop sexually compulsive behaviors.

It's logical to say "I don't like 12 Step meetings" or "I rather focus on NoFap groups" or whatever floats your boat. My only point is that you seem to fit the criteria for attending, and you will be welcomed anytime, regardless of whether or not your pp has been inside a persons body.

I relapsed for over 6 years (you can see my posts here) digging my own grave and driving a wrecking-ball through my life, contemplating suicide, and losing nearly everything, before finally admitting I was a sex addict. Since I made that admission and started working the steps, my life has gotten 100x better. But that's just me and my recovery. Maybe something will work differently for someone else.


Also if I may say, sometimes the best sex, with your partner does not have anything to do with reproduction. Oral sex is great if your partner, likes it and you like to perform it.
 
Facebook and Mark Fuckerberg do not care about your mental health, your addictions, or your sanity. They have been very clear about this.

Whistleblower Francis Haugen leaked hundreds of documents from FB showing their own studies proved Instagram was increasing suicide among teen girls. Mark Fuckerberg ignored it.

the former Vice President of Facebook said it was "ripping society apart"
https://www.sciencealert.com/a-former-facebook-vp-says-social-media-is-destroying-society
They understand well what they are doing.

Trying to convince Facebook to fix their algorithm for PMO addiction is like trying to get your heroin dealer to give you a Surgeon Generals Warning when they hand you the needle. It's insanity.

Yup. Also see this: https://stallman.org/facebook.html
 
Sex does not equal Reproduction my friend. Those are two different things. The quote above is about the later, and I'm discussing the former.

Gay people have sex all the time, but they are not reproducing. I would define "stimulating organs of the body for the purpose of arousal and /or orgasm" as sex. It sounds like you are like me, in that you struggle with this same compulsive sexual activity, that is to say - sex with self and sex with computers.

I'm not here to convince you of anything though. You have to want recovery for yourself; I'm just offering one way of thinking about it. You don't have to admit you are a sex addict to attend 12-step meetings. I already said above what the criteria is - a desire to stop sexually compulsive behaviors.

It's logical to say "I don't like 12 Step meetings" or "I rather focus on NoFap groups" or whatever floats your boat. My only point is that you seem to fit the criteria for attending, and you will be welcomed anytime, regardless of whether or not your pp has been inside a persons body.

I relapsed for over 6 years (you can see my posts here) digging my own grave and driving a wrecking-ball through my life, contemplating suicide, and losing nearly everything, before finally admitting I was a sex addict. Since I made that admission and started working the steps, my life has gotten 100x better. But that's just me and my recovery. Maybe something will work differently for someone else.

I really like your posts; thanks so much for your contribution.

But the Cambridge Dictionary says: sex (noun) (ACTIVITY) physical activity between people involving the sexual organs.

I still don't understand how you can have sex with yourself or your computer.

I'm not trying to argue. All I'm saying is that we’ve already named the problem: PMO addiction. Sex addiction means you're promiscuous with other people, not with yourself or your computer. Don’t you think so?

Perhaps I don't understand you because English is not my mother tongue.
 
I have such a bitter hatred of Facebook.

There was a day when Facebook only showed you posts from the pages you actually followed. Now, 80% of what I'm shown is "suggested posts" that actually have nothing to do with my interests.

I haven't had as much success with training FB's algorithm, but on Instagram, I have over 600 accounts of OnlyFans girls blocked entirely. Eventually the algorithm understood that I didn't want to see that crap, and it doesn't get sent to me anymore.
 
What is that 'point' when control is lost? Is there a way in the brain of an addict to recognise that point and step away - in effect 'choose a different option'?

In the SAA program, they use a model called "the three circles." It can also be thought of as a red light/yellow light/green light situation. The inner circle/red light are those behaviors that would constitute a relapse. PMO, sex outside of the relationship, sexting another partner, etc. The middle circle/yellow light are things that aren't relapse, but definitely aren't healthy and are likely to lead to relapse. These are typically mental or circumstantial conditions: isolation, idle time, anger, depression, an unfiltered internet connection, etc. The outer circle/green light is all the healthy stuff: hobbies, community, meditation, recovery work, church, exercise.

The "middle circle" is that area where an addict has an opportunity to course-correct to avoid relapse.

I spent 45 days at The Meadows in Wickenburg, AZ, which is considered the best treatment facility in the world for sex addiction. They had a relapse prevention model that made a lot of sense to me. It depicted a boulder at the top of a hill, representing the addict. If the boulder starts slowly rolling down the slope, it doesn't take much effort to stop, intially. But once it picks up momentum, it can be almost impossible to stop. That's a little like the addicted brain.

It feels like he had made a decision that he was going to look, and made a half hearted attempt at following his steps to keep him safe, but actually he made a series of choices and at no point was he unconscious, he remembers walking back in and to the laptop. It wasn't his rational brain, but it was his brain that made those choices - if he tried to use 'loss of control' in a court it wouldn't stand.

It's a tough thing for non-addicts to understand, but this is a case of "making decisions" with an impaired brain. Yes, there is choice in the matter. But that choice is also being heavily influenced by a jacked-up brain chemistry. It's similar to someone who's had a few drinks--yes, they can technically make decisions, but their impairment is likely having an effect.

Courts today do somewhat understand that--culturally there's an understanding that a drunk woman can't consent to sex, for instance. I have mixed feelings about that (if a woman gets drunk, that is her decision, and why are we requiring men to not only be responsible for their own decisions, but hers as well?), but at least there's some acknowledgement that an impaired brain isn't always a rational brain.

Thanks for the offer of support, sadly we are now beyond that. After 3 years of joint and individual counseling our relationship has broken down. I hope he finds a way to get into recovery, but he'll have to work that out for himself.

I'm sorry to hear that, and I hope you guys both find healing. Your story is similar to my ex and I. She was always my biggest cheerleader in my recovery, despite the enormous pain and damage I caused. Eventually she just had to 'tap out' and file for divorce. We still care about one another very much and have a very amicable relationship. But the damage was too much to overcome.

I have a huge amount of empathy for him. I hope he would agree that since finding out about his addiction I've loved and supported him, and done all I could physically, emotionally and practically. I keep reminding him what a wonderful human being he is, unfortunately I don't think he believes me.

I totally relate to this. My ex has moved on and forgiven me for what happened in our marriage, but I still struggle with the shame of what I did. And the more time I spend in recovery, the more 'real' the pain and damage I caused feels. And I realize that self-condemnation and shame are not helpful in my recovery--but it's very difficult not to go there mentally. I look back and think "how could I have done those things?" and yet, I did. I feel like such a different man than I was then, but that was still me. And that's just a hard thing to come to terms with.
 
I have such a bitter hatred of Facebook.

There was a day when Facebook only showed you posts from the pages you actually followed. Now, 80% of what I'm shown is "suggested posts" that actually have nothing to do with my interests.
Exactly.
I haven't had as much success with training FB's algorithm, but on Instagram, I have over 600 accounts of OnlyFans girls blocked entirely. Eventually the algorithm understood that I didn't want to see that crap, and it doesn't get sent to me anymore.
Bro, Instagram and TikTok are basically softcore porn sites. If I were you, I'd delete my accounts.

I only use X, and I never see porn, even though they allow hardcore porn on the app! I don’t see it because the algorithm never shows it to me. Plus, when I scroll through my feed on X, photos and videos appear as links. I only see them if I click on those links. So they don’t shove porn down my throat.
 
Exactly.

Bro, Instagram and TikTok are basically softcore porn sites. If I were you, I'd delete my accounts.

I only use X, and I never see porn, even though they allow hardcore porn on the app! I don’t see it because the algorithm never shows it to me. Plus, when I scroll through my feed on X, photos and videos appear as links. I only see them if I click on those links. So they don’t shove porn down my throat.

I've never used TikTok. I use IG, but it doesn't trigger me. Besides, most of those thirst-trap hoes are just ridiculous to me. Women who can't hold a real job or provide anything of value to the world so they try to make a living off their own self-absorption. Trust me, they're not a problem for me.
 
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