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Fasting helps to recover from impotence, mental feebleness and lowered vitality

Discussion in 'Rebooting - Porn Addiction Recovery' started by Clumsy, Sep 26, 2014.

  1. MelancholyWeightlifter

    MelancholyWeightlifter Distinguished Fapstronaut

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    What in the world. This is a really long thread. Shoooot.
     
  2. Oh just talking about food, religion, science and sexuality, you know. The usual stuff :eek:
     
  3. MelancholyWeightlifter

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    I go on vacation and you guys start a 180 message thread. LOL.
     
  4. beauty

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    I can honestly say that, through my 18 years of schooling, I have never had a teacher say anything remotely close to, "The teacher taught out to eat five times a day, that cow milk was not a problem, that masturbation and sex can be practiced in excesses without consequences. No matter the signals body gives us, we must eat, even if we are not hungry, we shall drink 3 litres of water everyday, otherwise we die of dehydration". So, I doubt it's common knowledge.
     
  5. Clumsy

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    I deleted what I said because I realized it was stupid, and I regret it.
    But I don't want to be warned "Don't be the bad guy" just because I do correct interpretations of natural laws, I'm not the evil guy, nor the bad guy. I am the good guy, the guy of truth. And I don't disrespect anyone because of their sexual orientation, religious beliefs, personal style or political view even if its unnatural and a bit sick.

    Clumsy
     
  6. Thackeray

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    What do you expect..it's a Clumsy thread!
     
  7. Thackeray

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    With regards to sexuality.. The best stance is always respect and tolerance.
    I have a very good gay friend, known him for years. Whilst I've told him to his face in debates I as straight man find the homosexual act not my idea of fun, I appreciate him for him, rather than what he gets up to in his private life. As long as no one is hurt, where is the harm, I think.
     
  8. I'd just like to precise what I said; when I said "don't be the bad guy", I absolutely wasn't talking about the ideas or principles. I was talking about the method. Trying to force your opinion on someone makes you unpopular and people have more of a tendency to avoid you. It's all I meant. Perhaps you don't mind yourself, but it's like having an unpopular opinion you know. Again, regarding your beliefs, even though I disagree, I respect them. I do not think you are a "bad guy", or even "evil", just because of your beliefs and opinions. I've been judged way too much to judge myself. I don't know your deepest fears, the reasons you think like this. If I was a mother, and a murderer slaughtered my child. My first reaction would be hate, pain, not understanding. but afterwards I'll forgive him, may it take years. Because even God forgives, and by judging, I'm placing myself to be better than God. And that's one of a big sin. Again, that's how I see it. I regret and ask you to forgive me if something I have said hurt you in any way. I did not wish you to think that I believe you are a bad guy. If you want to me retract my words and edit my post, I'll certainly do it.
     
  9. IGY

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    I think you have a common misconception Thackeray - that anybody who is gay is doing "the homosexual act" (a euphemism for anal intercourse between men). Has it not occurred to you that plenty of homosexuals do not do this anyway? Some opt for just mutual masturbation; oral sex; a combination of the two or none of them. Yes, plenty of homosexuals do not have any sexual contact with other men. Maybe they haven't found the right person yet, maybe it is forbidden in their religion (e.g. Islam), or for personal reasons, they choose to remain celibate. So, don't assume that "the homosexual act" defines all men with same sex attraction.
     
  10. Clumsy

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    The only one I trust in this, is my own body. I don't need any other advisor.

    I agree fully with you, homosexuals should be treated with respect, just like everybody else. Just like people with autism, ADHD, bipolar disorder, borderline, schizophrenia and downs syndrom should be treated with respect. Because none can choose to be homosexual, sick or autistic, hence no blame should be put on them. Being disrespectful towards a homosexual because of his homosexuality is exactly the same as being disrespectful towards a person with cardiovascular disease, because of his disease.

    My beliefs, and my opinion that homosexuality is an abnormality has nothing to do with my fears or personal life.
    And no, I'm not offended, just little disappointed that you keep jumping to conclusions that are incorrect.
    And I agree, one should not hate too much. Being able to forgive is a key for a fulfilling life. I've easy to forgive people.

    And I don't judge homosexuals. But I cannot get into my head how some people can refer it to as something natural when it clearly is not. Asperger's syndrome is not normal either, it's a neuropsychiatric disorder. The purpose of our lives can't be fully understood, but we're all driven to eat, sleep, produce and reproduce. Facts. Cannot be escaped.

    Sex for fun has no purpose. We don't eat because it's fun, if that would be the case we would fill our stomachs with inedible materials. Eating has a purpose, for nourishment. We don't eat pencils, wood and cotton. We don't eat because it's fun, we eat because it's necessary to do that to live and reproduce. Same with sex, and any other driving instinct. It has a purpose.
     
    Last edited: Sep 28, 2014
  11. Clumsy

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    True, I will break the fast with 100 grams of milk, followed by some easy-digested green vegetables. Then I will wait for 3 hours before I will eat an oatmeal I think, then 3-4 hours later I will eat small quantities of some protein.

    I read now that breaking the fast is the most difficult thing, many people over eat and get sick, some can even die from it. It's extremely important, no matter the raging hunger, to eat very slowly and to chew the food at least 80 times each bite.

    Spicy foods, eggs, meat and other hard-digested foods should be avoided when breaking the fast, because they can cause severe damage, even death.
     
  12. Yeah I agree with that. Even though 80 times seems a bit extreme haha. But I get the point. Is there like, a ratio of fast days / days required to break the fast? If you fast for two days for example. Should the breaking fast phase last two days too?
     
  13. Clumsy

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    But I think 80-100 times is necessary, because while you chew, your stomach will begin to work again, it's like signaling to the body "here comes some food, be ready". Even if you drink milk, it should be in the mouth for sometime before you swallow it.

    I don't know, I think two days of fasting is easy to come off. The most important thing is to not binge on food, because that's dangerous and an outrage upon the system, you can throw up and you can hurt your stomach very bad. Same with spicy foods, the stomach is so easily irritable.

    I will fast this day too, but I must start eating tomorrow because I have things to do. I will begin to drink an ounce of milk, then maybe 2 hours later eat some steamed vegetables, and for evening maybe I go for oatmeal.

    But this cannot be said too many times: Binge on food after a fast is very dangerous, and even if you're hungry you should chew and eat very slowly, and small quantities at a time. I have fasted 30 hours before and in my ignorance I binged on food, I almost threw up and had heart palpilations for 30 mins, accompanied with stomach cramps and pains.
     
  14. Thackeray

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    I will not get more involved in this debate. Respect and peace to all I say, except one-legged, crossed-eyed, cross-dressing, Bavarian nazis (I hate those guys):).

    No, I will agree with what you've said. Love is love. There are different ways of showing it, whether you're straight or gay.
     
    Last edited: Sep 28, 2014
  15. IGY

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  16. I really would like to start a fast - just to prove myself my limits. But my first and foremost priority is running, and I don't want my training to clash with my fast, especially if I register for a race. I run 5 times a week. Would it be advisable for me to start a fast (also knowing that I try to lose weight), or isn't it not an option for the moment? Thank you for your answer.
     
  17. jfats100

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    Do not fast and exercise, it is not good for you. I'm speaking from experience.

    I would wait at one day for every day of fasting before you begin exercising. You should wait until your digestive system is up and running again before you start putting large demands on your body.
     

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