Feel sorry for smoker who gets ill health but not alcoholic who gets ill health?

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skaterdrew

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I have two friends, one smokes about four cigarettes a day and the other is an alcoholic who gets drunk nearly every day.

The friend who smokes thinks the alcoholic friend is going to kill him self with the alcohol, and thinks he will only have him self to blame. He said to me if he gets cirrhosis of the liver it will be his own fault. He basically finds it difficult to feel sorry for someone who does that to them self.

But I then said to my friend yeah and if you get lung cancer caused by smoking then that will be your own fault.

But he seems to think this is completely different for some reason. It's almost like he thinks if he got lung cancer from smoking 4 cigarettes a day then people should feel sorry for him, but if the alcoholic friend who gets drunk nearly every day gets cirrhosis of the liver then people shouldn't feel sorry for him.

This just doesn't make any sense to me.

I think I would just naturally feel sorry for anyone who got a serious health condition, regardless if they done it to them self or not.
 
Submariner said:
When you are suffering from alcoholism, you are a victim and should be threated like others with a mental illness in my opinion.
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I actually agree.

Something I find quite stupid is when someone who isn't addicted to alcohol tells someone who is addicted to alcohol to just stop drinking, thinking it is that simple.

As we all know the alcoholic will have brain changes caused by the years of heavy drinking. Their brain will be doing everything possible to get them to drink, causing withdrawal, lowering feel good neurotransmitters, things like serotonin and gaba, and then raising stress hormones.

But then someone who has no addiction to alcohol will turn around and say just stop drinking, like it is that easy.

These sort of people have no understanding of addiction.
 
skaterdrew said:
I have two friends, one smokes about four cigarettes a day and the other is an alcoholic who gets drunk nearly every day.

The friend who smokes thinks the alcoholic friend is going to kill him self with the alcohol, and thinks he will only have him self to blame. He said to me if he gets cirrhosis of the liver it will be his own fault. He basically finds it difficult to feel sorry for someone who does that to them self.

But I then said to my friend yeah and if you get lung cancer caused by smoking then that will be your own fault.

But he seems to think this is completely different for some reason. It's almost like he thinks if he got lung cancer from smoking 4 cigarettes a day then people should feel sorry for him, but if the alcoholic friend who gets drunk nearly every day gets cirrhosis of the liver then people shouldn't feel sorry for him.

This just doesn't make any sense to me.

I think I would just naturally feel sorry for anyone who got a serious health condition, regardless if they done it to them self or not.
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Hey,
in the smoker´s world cigarettes are normal (because he is addicted to it) but alcohol is not (because he isn't addicted to it). In your world, which is acutally the real world, both isn't normal. Addtiionally, every one who is addicted shouldn't be treated as guilty. No one is actually guilty for being addicted. It is hard to be addicted and not easy to get out of it.
 
ezmon said:
Hey,
in the smoker´s world cigarettes are normal (because he is addicted to it) but alcohol is not (because he isn't addicted to it). In your world, which is acutally the real world, both isn't normal. Addtiionally, every one who is addicted shouldn't be treated as guilty. No one is actually guilty for being addicted. It is hard to be addicted and not easy to get out of it.
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I do have issues with alcohol. Not sure if I am quite an alcoholic though. I usually binge drink when I drink.
 
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