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Feeling Human Again - 2 Months - Two Steps Forward - An Untold Number Of Steps Yet To Go

Discussion in 'Success Stories' started by स्वर्ग Ordinator Toshiro, Aug 13, 2016.

  1. Just wanted to make a little post as I've been in such a positive mood lately.

    Overcoming porn and masturbation addiction is not so easy for some people.



    The science has shown how scary porn addiction is, that's for sure.

    This story is going to be very short and to the point, as it is not the last story I plan on sharing. Many more details into my own addiction coming up next.

    Counting days is a phenomenon I can't really wrap my head around, hey some people really get into it and if it helps you, by all means keep counting days. I'm not saying tracking progress isn't vital to success I'm just saying there are ways to track your progress without obsessing what day you're on. If you've noticed I keep a tiny clean date in the bottom right hand corner of my signature, this way I know when my last relapse was (I'm doing the No Arousal Method btw, if we must slap a label on getting clean in the most effective way possible) but I don't pay attention to what day I am on. I choose to focus on why I'm getting clean and keep that at the front of my mind rather than what day I'm on which is utterly useless and meaningless for me. Great thread here if you are thinking of using a counter or want tips on tracking progress if a plain old calendar isn't enough for you ;),

    My Thoughts On Rebooting [EXTREMELY LONG POST]

    You don't need anything other than a burning desire to no longer be a slave to your lusts to get clean in all honesty. People are so different though and some need alot of support and even professional help to reach this place inside them where they just no longer want to be a slave to their impulses and groin. Do whatever you have to do to end the addiction once and for all, a zero tolerance policy is a must. Giving up both masturbation and porn is the best solution as countless can attest to. They are one and the same addiction in the end for various reasons. If it's just a bad little habit best end it now before it becomes a compulsion that is harder to break than you would have thought. I have a friend who fapped for years more than I did, and he just up and quit watching any porn or fondling himself by his own volition without even knowing what NoFap is. Just shows you everyone's issue with fapping is different, some are not truly addicted. If you can just decide you've had enough and be done more power to you.

    You don't need to be a saint or even a grown-up to overcome this as some would have you believe here. You don't need to develop your character to any sort of perfection. All you need is the firm decision that fapping no longer serves any useful or rewarding purpose in your life and replace it with wholesome activities that provide you with a much deeper and healthier sense of satisfaction. I've seen 13 and 14 year olds here making much more substantial and deeper progress than some grown men. Eliminate feeling like you need to escape discomfort by finding more effective, healthy coping strategies and decide you do not have to play a slave to your genitals, and wham, you won't feel a desire to wank again even when your libido says hi :)

    Like I said just a short bit for now as my energy levels are brimming. Celibacy in mind and body is so rewarding. I still want to get married don't get me wrong but I have reached a place where I'm content being celibate until that happens.

    Total freedom is waiting. I hope we all reach it one day.

    The following is just food for thought, material to expand your mind beyond the region of your crotch if it sparks your interest, if not have a nice day either way :D



    thevenusproject.com



    P.S.

    Please excuse the signature lol I know it's uncalled for I got carried away but it's staying like that for now hehe.

    Also I won't be back to respond to any replies PM if you wanna chat, wasn't really trying to have a discussion over this post!
     
    Last edited: Aug 13, 2016
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  2. iHappy

    iHappy Guest

    @Toshiro Congratulations, 2 months is a great milestone :)
    I love the latest threads in the success section because people are finally getting the point. Counting days is useless in the longer term and I don't see a point in doing so once you are on a decent streak. However, it is extremely motivational in the beginning but it is also a double edged sword.
    People make it to a week or two and they got obsessed by the day the day they are on and if they relapse they think that all the progress they made has been lost. So what they do, they binge and that surely ruins all the progress.
    Focus here should be on the recovery and improving our lives not on the days of abstaining from porn.

    It is not easy, but everyone can overcome this addiction.
     
  3. I suppose it is motivating if one is very new to quitting fapping.

    It was years ago when I first began my quest, my story is actually quite long.

    I remember aiming for streaks of like 4 days (some Taoist sexual theory behind that day count for the age I was back then) when I first started training martial arts at 18 haha!
     
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  4. marcpro

    marcpro Fapstronaut

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    Damn the truth has been told, I couldn't say it better.
    I aimed on the days and failed after 150, I saw that the desire could be controlled.
    Nofap is for life, I don't want to desensitize more.
    Still I'm struggling when it comes to a week.
    I'll read your very long post cuz staying clean is all that mathers.
    People like you always makes stay in the nofap challenge, as you said we can't eradicate lust but we definitely have to control it^^.
     
  5. Just came across this.

    We need not get complacent or rest on our laurels as a fellow user said the other day when he hit 64 days.

    The beast never sleeps.

    Mindfulness is a required tool we need to be using daily.

    Relapse: A Stern Warning
    Submitted by in_recovery on Tue, 2012-10-02 10:54

    I'm writing to warn others about relapse - and more specifically, how easy it is to relapse.

    I quit all PMO in August, 44 days ago. My story is similar to others. I somehow discovered YBOP and this website. An eye-opening experience. It's a great moment of enlightenment mixed with disappointment over what you've allowed yourself to become (and the years you've wasted). You always knew, deep down, porn was seriously messing you up, but you told yourself that all guys jerk it to porn and it's normal. Call it denial, or call it your brain bullshitting you to keep you looking at porn.

    After reading about porn-induced ED, I thought 90 days would be a breeze. I'd found the answer to my ED problems. There would be NO WAY I'd relapse after discovering that porn, which I thought was harmless, was actually ruining my life. Not only that, I was excited to think I could be normal again after a few short months.

    I did a lot of reading on the subject, fascinated. I read about the good and bad side effects of quitting, the possibility of relapse, the chaser effect. Then I read about guys who had gone 45 or 60+ days, then had a total relapse; a binge session. I was in shock! I thought, how could you succumb to porn after going a month or 2 (or more) of total abstinence? After you've made it this far?

    Well, let me tell you - it happens. Even if you think it can't happen to you because you're just too determined to succumb to a moment of weakness. One day, if you're not extremely careful, it'll get you. It only takes a second. Your brain launches an unexpected assault and your balls are Pearl Harbor. You only have a brief - almost incalculable - instant to stop yourself. For 40 days, you've acted with admirable restraint, fending off intermittent cravings, and now instead of suppressing the urge, you set forth toward your porn "station" with rabid determination. The restraint methods you've been using (adult website blockers, a mental red X over porn-related thoughts, shouting "No!" to an empty room) are wiped away like birdshit off the windshield. You've given yourself the green light to watch porn, and the buzz has begun - and it already feels good.

    I think your brain, whether you realize it or not, is always calculating a plan. Inside your head, in some far-away reach, a sinister (and probably horny) little ghoul is busy at work, hellbent on discovering the impulse that will make you cave. He'll try and fail, over and over, but he doesn't get discouraged. Eventually he'll send something up the pipeline that's a little more compelling, something you have to pause and consider.

    In my case, the idea he sent was: "maybe you're cured."

    Hmm, was it possible? After all, my progress had been astounding over the past month. Regular morning wood, a very healthy libido (no flatline period), and I had great successful sex around day 25. I stayed hard the whole time, thank you very much, even during position changes (a difficulty in the past). Plus, I started my PMO obsession in my 20s, not in the formative years. I didn't have it as bad as some of these other guys. Maybe a 90-day reboot is unnecessary for me. Maybe I'm already cured and my brain has been restored to the factory default. So when it comes to porn, now I should be able to watch it like a "normal" person -- with a clean slate.

    Mind you, this irrational thought process occurred in the time it will take me to type the period at the end of this sentence.

    Perhaps there's already a term for the initial discovery period, when you stumble upon a website like this and realize you're a porn addict and it's been the sole cause of your problems. It's such an A-ha moment that, despite the accompanying regrets, it's a moment of delight. The answer to your problems, finally. There's an excitement that your whole life is about to get better. This causes a huge surge of confidence in your ability to succeed. However, therein lies the danger. You can become over-confident and underestimate the power of addiction.

    My friends, don't let that happen to you. Understand from the get-go that you're up against a formidable foe. You may think you have total control of your brain, but you don't. Just because it's yours doesn't mean you have control of it.

    Despite all the reading I'd done from other PMO addicts in recovery, all the blogs warning me that my brain will try everything to fool me, that's exactly what it did. The sinister little ghoul, lurking in my brain-shadows, mixed just the right concoction and sent it through my synapses. It swam undetected amongst my healthy impulses, waiting patiently until it developed enough strength to consume them. On day 40, I allowed my brain to win. The next thing I knew, I was sitting in front my computer cranking out sons and daughters.

    Afterward, I was disappointed in myself, but still thought: This is how "normal" guys watch porn. It's OK every once in awhile. Two hours later, the urge was stronger. Now I thought, well if I did it once, what's the difference if I do it twice? And down the spiral I went. A total relapse. Once I had determined that I'd officially failed, I decided to REALLY fail. If I'm going to relapse, I'm going to damn well enjoy it.

    I enjoyed it over the course of 2 days. When I came to my senses, I couldn't believe what I'd done. Physically I felt like I was right back to where I'd started. My libido was gone, my penis felt like it'd been out all night participating in a Fight Club, and my introverted nature had returned in full force. I didn't even want to go out to buy milk. I didn't want to face anyone, especially women. All my progress, gone.

    They say you're not technically back to square one if you relapse; that your successful days prior to relapse count for something. Though I hope that's true, it sure as hell doesn't feel that way. I'm back at Day 2 and, let me assure you, it FEELS like Day 2. If I attempted intercourse right now, it'd be like trying to tightening a screw with a rubber band. In my interactions with women (yes, I did finally go out and buy milk), the simple thrill I'd rekindled from merely exchanging pleasantries was eradicated. I'm back to my old anxious, sulking self. Back to square one.

    Now that I'm on the wagon again, I know every day will feel a little better. I had a 40-day taste of freedom and I intend to get there again and go beyond. I'll use my relapse as a learning tool. I know what it's like to fail, and how easy it is. I know I can NEVER look at porn again. Maybe I should start a blog as Marnia often suggests. Then if I fail, I have to come here and tell all of you about it. Good motivation to succeed. In the meantime, I have to remember that I'm an addict. I may have started my PMO habit later than some, but my affliction is the same; just the same as the next guy, or the last guy - or you.
     
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  6. The only thing I don't like with the above article is the fact that we can take FULL CONTROL OF OUR BRAINS. TRAIN TO BE THE MASTER, MEDITATE, LEARN TO COOK YOUR OWN MEALS LIKE A BOSS, WORKOUT LIKE A GREEK GOD, PRACTICE TAI CHI, YOGA, OR QIGONG AND SIP TEA LIKE A BOSS.

    CHEERS.

    ONWARDS.

    YOU DO NOT HAVE TO BE A SLAVE TO THAT SINISTER VOICE ANYMORE TELLING YOU TO GRAB YOUR GENITALS.



    TAKE CONTROL.



    THROW IT DOWN, LET THE DEVIL KNOW YOU WILL NOT LET HIM RUN YOUR LIFE ANYMORE.



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  7. iHappy

    iHappy Guest

    @Toshiro I agree and it is not that hard actually. With a regular meditation practice you soon realize that thoughts are not you, they come and go. If you feed them they will grow stronger and stronger, but you don't have to do so. You can simply let them pass :)
    That's is difficult to understand for people who are not meditating.
     
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