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Feels like marching towards relapse

Discussion in 'Porn Addiction' started by Kyostaa, Aug 14, 2017.

  1. Kyostaa

    Kyostaa Fapstronaut

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    Hi guys. 35 days of no porn. 7 days with no masturbation.

    In the last few days I had sex with my wife every day. Yesterday it was twice.
    Even though the orgasms were amazing, stronger than what they used to be months ago, I still can't stop thinking about porn.

    In fact, when I say porn I'm usually saying adult roleplaying in the internet with other people. Then comes the messages and such. For these contexts you need to use imagination to build up a character. And these ideas keep sprouting in my mind every minute.

    Right now I'm alone at home. I won't access any of the websites I usually entered, but it's a struggle. It's like a voice in my head saying "give it up, you know it's pointless to resist".

    I need help. I don't want to set that counter to zero. I don't want to feel the guilt and shame that comes afterwards. Don't want to look my wife in the eyes again and know I'm hiding something. I want to be clean. Why is it so hard and why does it take so long?

    The obvious answer is: because it's an addiction.
     
  2. Shin Iu

    Shin Iu Fapstronaut

    do some sports, this would build up your spirit! you need to become stronger!
     
  3. Kyostaa

    Kyostaa Fapstronaut

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    This won't work for me. I'm already pretty fit :p
     
  4. holcha07

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    Kyostaa, thanks for the post. Awareness, a growing awareness, of the workings of relationship with yourself, your wife, and whomever or whatever else is a part of this process of abstention from PMO. It seems like the relationship with you and your wife is getting stronger now that you've abstained from PMO for a bit. I wonder what else is changing in your life, something positive, that you can attribute to your abstention?

    My point is is that abstaining from PMO, if we examine our lives, seemingly always leads to a path of more fulfillment, in some way. PMO, though it can be intense and pleasurable, is just a quick high, and an endless black hole of shit. Do you really want to keep going down it?

    Lastly, I don't sense that PMO is an addiction like you say it is. Yes you have urges, perhaps intense, but you do have a choice. To my knowledge, a true definition of an addict are those who are slaves. Are you a slave? Do you have to go down this black hole? Or can you go down a path that's lighter and brighter? Really, it's your choice...

    Best,
    Charlie
     
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  5. Kyostaa

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    Thanks for your reply! :)
    Well, indeed, I do feel some changes. Sometimes my libido is incredibly high, sometimes it's very low. Beyond sexual things, I finally brought myself up to finish some chapters of my thesis (it's due on november). Most certainly that relates to the absence of pornography.

    I remember that, whenever I wasn't actually masturbating, I would go into anonymous browsing and search for images. Just to see if I could find porn involving an specific subject. A few minutes later, I'd do that again. And again and again. And when I realised, that took me an hour or more.
     
  6. holcha07

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    Kyostaa, your triggered something in me that i'd like to share with you. Perhaps you'll find interest in it.

    Your searching for images sounds like boredom to me. And I've found that boredom, this state of feeling not much at all, is one of the greatest catalysts for our porn use. We want to get out of this boring state, so we search the web, watch television, etc. But I've found that these boredom preventers lead only to porn use or some kind of other way to escape, thus perpetuating this cycle of boredom and despair. But boredom should not be taken lightly!

    Boredom is a state of being that is seemingly unbearable. I get that. To sense, feel little, how horrible. I rather feel some kind of sadness, anger, something, rather than this bored state.

    But there's hope. My sense is is that if we stop using these boredom preventers, those things that are used for us to escape, we'll fall into some kind of creativity. In my experience, when I pass through the boredom state, I start to fall into myself. And instead of needing some kind of outside stimulation like t.v., video games, etc., to entertain me because my inner activity is dull, I've found that my inner activity becomes more active. I don't need all that entertainment I needed before; Just being alive is almost entertaining enough.

    lastly, and I think this is really important, in addition to perpetuating this cycle of boredom with boredom preventers, I've found that there's something just as, if not more pernicious at play. Even if I don't feel much when I'm watching t.v., even porn, etc., and just laze out, that doesn't mean that I'm not being influenced in some way. Since being away from porn, I've come to sense just how warped my mind has become because of advertisements, porn , etc. This is exactly what these advertising porn producing shit heads want! They want you to become an addicted machine who doesn't think for themselves, but instead has everything thought for them. That's how they stay in business. But in the meantime your becoming a misogynistic, aggressive, anti-social, passive, fucking creep human being. So watch out. Be aware of what you're taking in. Because unconsciously, whether you know it or not, you're always taking in something.

    Hope this was useful in some way,
    Charlie
     
  7. SuperFan

    SuperFan Fapstronaut

    You've answered correctly.

    Give yourself some grace, brother. This is a brutally difficult thing to overcome.

    I'm thankful that you have a healthy sexual relationship with your wife. In order to funnel your sexual focus onto her, though, I'd encourage you to set up some filters/blocks so you can't access porn. Enlist the help of an accountability partner who you trust. I haven't viewed porn in months and it's amazing. You can do it.

    And to whatever extent you can, stop masturbating. Make your wife your sole outlet for sexual release. She'll appreciate it. :)
     
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  8. Kyostaa

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    I've tried that before. It failed over and over and over again. Two years of studying whitelists, blocking apps, editing files from system. I always managed to bypass them when the urges came. It helps, but won't work. For every wall there's a higher tsunami, I guess.

    This time, my system is all unblocked. I'm quitting by force of will alone.
     
  9. Kyostaa

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    I think it has something to do with boredom, but with something more.

    You see, my worst usage of porn was after I joined these roleplaying sites. They were very graphical. And most likely I was able to find something fantastic and sexual going on there, fueled by drawing and edited pics of things that couldn't even happen in real life. My bad habit was "is there porn of this thing in particular to be found?" and then I'd go google images and etc.

    It's about curiosity on how depraved can my fantasies go. When I noticed I was going too far, getting aroused by things I felt too much repulsive, the red alert came.

    I know it's like that for most people. Which is always a sign that things are getting serious.
     
  10. SuperFan

    SuperFan Fapstronaut

    Good luck with that.
     

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