Feminism Poll

Discussion in 'Off-topic Discussion' started by Deleted Account, Aug 21, 2018.

Are you a feminist?

Poll closed Oct 10, 2018.
  1. Yes

    19.3%
  2. No

    80.7%
  1. I thought it would be interesting to find out the number of people on NoFap who consider themselves to be a feminist and the number who don't.

    From the Oxford Dictionary:

    Feminism

    The advocacy of women's rights on the ground of the equality of the sexes.

    SYNONYMS
    the women's movement, the feminist movement, women's liberation, female emancipation, women's rights

    post-feminism, womanism

     
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  2. kropo82

    kropo82 Fapstronaut

    Although I am a bit squeamish about the term it seems more common for men to use the term "ally" than "feminist" at the moment (e.g. here)
     
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  3. Starke

    Starke Fapstronaut

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    Hahahaha, No.
     
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  4. SolitaryScribe

    SolitaryScribe Fapstronaut

    too bad there isn't a "hell no" option in the post
     
  5. KS1994

    KS1994 Fapstronaut

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    Original Feminism and the purpose behind it, yes. What it has become, no.
     
  6. AngelofDarkness

    AngelofDarkness Fapstronaut

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    I do consider myself a supporter of women's rights naturally, but I don't like to call myself a feminist. That would be the same as someone sexually identifying as bisexual saying they consider themselves heterosexual because it is also (but not only) part of their sexual identity. It feels wrong to me to single out women as an oppressed group, because for one, it disregards men, children, old people, disabled people, people of different ethnicities and animals being subject of suppression. And second, it implies that women who are suppressed are suppressed because of their gender only. There is violence or harassment by women against women for example, simply because people don't always think in genders, but just want to hurt another human being for various reasons. I personally prefer not seeing things from one perspective only, so I don't consider myself a supporter of women's rights only, but a supporter of everyone's human rights as well as animal rights. For me, the term feminist feels more like a historical term (which is not to say that male-female-oppression doesn't exist anymore) and comes from a time where it was important, vital even, for women to stand up to male oppression and gender-inequality, but I feel like in these modern times, fighting against inequality should be a gender-neutral matter.

    I'm guessing this is all just a question of semantics, but that is my opinion.
     
  7. ClaudeDuval

    ClaudeDuval Fapstronaut

    Feminism is for equality like the Klan is for ending "racism". Lol even old feminists like camille paglia and christina hoff summers have sort of jumped ship due to the fact that feminism is just sexism wrapped under the guise of "equality". Just like most of these "anti racist" groups are actually just anti white. They're nothing more than a toxic marxist cult who demonize men and demonize traditional womanhood.
     
  8. Castielle

    Castielle Fapstronaut

    I would consider myself a classic feminist, but feminism today goes against so much of what classic feminism was meant to be. So I would not call myself a feminist, no.
     
  9. SanSolo

    SanSolo Fapstronaut

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    I have 3 daughters. In as much as I would not want anyone to say there is anything they're not allowed to do, "because you're a girl" then yes. The politicized feminism has precious little to do with rights and justice and almost everything to do with power and control.
     
  10. NightReaper775

    NightReaper775 Fapstronaut

  11. Fausterity

    Fausterity Fapstronaut

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    1st, 2nd and 3rd wave feminism are slightly different expressions of the same sentiment. Some have called this unifying sentiment "hostility toward men," which is certainly true for the hardcore feminists of every wave. But i don't think this is true for the average women who subscribe to feminist ideas. They are motivated by a lack of respect for modern men, not hatred of men. This is because modern men have degenerated to the point where they cannot command the respect and submission of women. Women do not want to submit to weak men.

    Feminism is not the result of an advancement of women, women today can't hold a candle to their great grandmothers in grace, charm, mental stability, intelligence, contentment, happiness. Women have not advanced at all, it only seems so because men are even more inferior to their great grandfathers.

     
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  12. NightReaper775

    NightReaper775 Fapstronaut

    People, in general, are very inferior to their grandfathers. Time has made people mere hedonists, without any great cause to chase, secret nihilists which just resent life and other people because they are unable to connect or feel anything anymore. Numbed by years of addictions, for the most part, and by the lack of adventures. It's no surprise then that everything just spirals down into hate, resentment, etc. ("The Red Pill" or MGTOW are great examples, but also women who hate men after some experience which then they generalize).

    I am a feminist man, I ascribe to most of the gender critique and to the dismantling of most social institutions of patriarchal domination (which is not the same as male domination), I think this can benefit both men and women. Today's social problems have to do more with a lack of guidance and a constant zombification of the masses, at least at the micro level of social relations and relationships in general. This is a society that has lost the whole idea of adventure, of a quest.
     
  13. ivanhoe

    ivanhoe Fapstronaut

    Ha! Yeah, and communism's all about equality too... funny how hundreds of millions of people die or starve to death trying to make everyone 'equal'.

    I think feminism is about equality of the sexes, but to paraphrase Orwell, some sexes are more equal than others.
     
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  14. NightReaper775

    NightReaper775 Fapstronaut

    Communism is not about mere equality, but whatever, nor did "socialist" countries kill hundreds of millions, those figures are long debunked by historians (even counting Western sources the number is closer to 20 million and it's tightly connected to natural disasters). Also, capitalism has killed far more people in famines and genocides than "socialism", but no one is saying it doesn't work or anything.

    Tell me how women are more equal and better off than men in today's world. Really, I wish you could prove that to me. In every sense (political, economic, human rights, having to raise children, sexualization, human traffic, slavery, education, influence) they are worse off than men as a group. Their only real capital (power to command) over men today is sexual capital, and really only in Western countries, and in a minority of women; and even men have that capital too and can use it effectively. Resentment and failed relationships are not a good source of information.

    Take care.
     
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  15. ivanhoe

    ivanhoe Fapstronaut

    Which historians, which numbers? You seem rather indifferent to the well documented barbaric cruelty of mao's china, Bolshevik Russia, and on and on. Wherever there is marxism there is suppression of free speech - like our college campuses, violence or threats of violence, like our college campus.
    as NightReaper types on his keyboard and posts to a forum.

    Why don't you try finding out yourself? we hear your SJW bs on Wapo, NYT, CNN, MSNBC 24/7

    having to raise children is a punishment?
     
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  16. NightReaper775

    NightReaper775 Fapstronaut

    Oh, the classic "communist with iPhone" tactic. Marx would be so scared right now... if only he said that products of labour were not the same as means of production! Have you even read Marx or other socialists? i don't think so, and if your sources are the alt-right Beyoncés there's nothing I can do.

    Take care, buddy. Keep deluded. You can find those sources yourself.
     
  17. I don't like to associate with that label because of many negative connotations around today, from radical feminists, who in my honest opinion, don't speak for the majority. But of course I believe women should have equal rights to men and in most instances, at least in western world, we do. I find most men treat you very well, there are subtle things sometimes, for instance this is a very male space here (nofap) and I always knew that coming here. Sometimes some things are annoying, but it's mostly some stupid trolls, who again, don't represent men in general. I actually think we should be focusing more on harmony between the sexes. Instead, modern feminism often feels divisive.
     
  18. ivanhoe

    ivanhoe Fapstronaut

    Yes, funny I had to read the communist manifesto three separate times in college. Like I said we are bombarded with the lies of Feminists (wage gap myth) and SJW 24/7.
    Don't pretend your views aren't regularly repeated in the main stream media EVERY DAY. Have you ever noticed something though? They are only believed by 'useful idiots' (lenin's term) , entrenched Univ. professors indoctrinating their students and BILLIONAIRES like George Soros and Jeff Bezo.

    Have you ever stopped to ask yourself why?
     
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  19. ivanhoe

    ivanhoe Fapstronaut

    Let's start with the Ukrainian famine, as referenced in the alt-right "Atlantic" magazine:
    https://www.theatlantic.com/interna...e-anne-applebaum-ukraine-soviet-union/542610/
    Among them were nearly 4 million Ukrainians who died not because of neglect or crop failure, but because they had been deliberately deprived of food.

    But according to you it's not a big deal. You know what, you are a sick, disgusting sociopath that embraces an ideology KNOWING it did this.
     
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