Filters

JKnight

JKnight

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I don't understand something. When people write about their relapse experience, they always talk about how they were on their phone or whatnot and it just happened. Why aren't people talking about, recommending or using internet filters. Granted that they can be beaten, but even that second of difficulty, wouldn't it act as a great barrier to PMOing, enough to wake up from that drunken reverie?

It's such a no-brainer, especially addicts here who have children and don't want their kids to go through the same thing.
 
I think if I wanted to PMO again, there wouldn't be a filter in hell that could stop me from finding porn. Filters are good for creating a psychological barrier at first, but ultimately they're like the placebo effect, its imaginary because in those moments of weaknesses, we all know ways around them for we set them up in the first place.
 
sayonaraPMO said:
I think if I wanted to PMO again, there wouldn't be a filter in hell that could stop me from finding porn. Filters are good for creating a psychological barrier at first, but ultimately they're like the placebo effect, its imaginary because in those moments of weaknesses, we all know ways around them for we set them up in the first place.
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A psychological barrier is sometimes all that is necessary to break us from that urge. Our will power may sometimes fail us, but a reminder, much like the Panic Button here, or other such techniques can be a crucial fence that gives us the moment we need to resist and remember.
 
John DK said:
Well instead of using filter we must need to focus on a firm decision tht we will never watch porn again...
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it's not a replacing of a firm decision. It's a barrier that enforced it. If you read, you'll see that sometimes people who have rebooted and are sober for 120 days or even 3 years have reset or relapsed and the reasons they gave were stupid and incidental. Had there been something, it would have been easier to remain. Not guaranteed to have worked, but easier. It complements and supports the decision and not in place of it.
 
sayonaraPMO said:
I think if I wanted to PMO again, there wouldn't be a filter in hell that could stop me from finding porn. Filters are good for creating a psychological barrier at first, but ultimately they're like the placebo effect, its imaginary because in those moments of weaknesses, we all know ways around them for we set them up in the first place.
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Also, I don't think that it's a reason not to have one. What is worse an open internet that allows you or your children to have an unsolicited access to the entire depravity that is the internet that can seduce you or them into this addiction that some here have had for even 20 years? Or to place that barrier that creates even a flimsy barrier but is still a gateway at the very least, and it can let someone else know when it has been breached.
 
What I feel is that humans are curious species...if you ask them not to do something they will definitely do it...they will find ways to beat that filter..Infact people don't like the term nofap as it reminds us of fapping....Also Our mind is like controlling and training a dog...you can have him tied all days with chains or you can train him to obey you without chains....I would prefer the latter.
 
Jnnybrav said:
What I feel is that humans are curious species...if you ask them not to do something they will definitely do it...they will find ways to beat that filter..Infact people don't like the term nofap as it reminds us of fapping....Also Our mind is like controlling and training a dog...you can have him tied all days with chains or you can train him to obey you without chains....I would prefer the latter.
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Not disagreeing. Although to continue with your metaphor. You usually keep him in chains while you train him to not need the chains and then only release him when he is ready. It'll be the same kind of idea.
 
I think you've touched on something important here. Yes, filters are good and important, especially for children. I would advise all parents to have them, and also explain to children why they have them.

HOWEVER, the ultimate goal is to be strong enough in our heads to not need a filter. We want to be able to train our minds to live without filters and that does require us to stop using them at some point.

Same goes with kids, there comes a time when they're old enough for the filters to go, and they can start their own mind-training journey
 
sayonaraPMO said:
I think you've touched on something important here. Yes, filters are good and important, especially for children. I would advise all parents to have them, and also explain to children why they have them.

HOWEVER, the ultimate goal is to be strong enough in our heads to not need a filter. We want to be able to train our minds to live without filters and that does require us to stop using them at some point.

Same goes with kids, there comes a time when they're old enough for the filters to go, and they can start their own mind-training journey
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Agreed. I think that if you do not have the will power, then at the very least you will MO, at the very most you will strive to break the filters. I think they complement each other and help each other. I also think that filters can play a strong part in rehabilitation if the person wants them to.
 
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