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Finally Moving Forward ~Rachie's Journal

Discussion in 'Significant Other Journals' started by Rachie, Dec 8, 2017.

  1. Rachie

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    Absolutely!
     
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  2. SuperFan

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    Seriously, what is the deal with that? I travel a lot for work and you're absolutely right. Whenever I'm at the airport, I look around and it's like I'm waiting for a yoga flash mob to break out.
     
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  3. I can 100% relate to this. I still don’t initiate. We only have sex when he initiates be I am afraid of rejection. Or if for some reason I do initiate then I think he isn’t really interested and is just pacifying me so I don’t get upset.

    Ugh..anyway another thing that came to mind is he might be flatlining and testing it by being all over you. We went through this. He was tired, grouchy and seemed like he did when he was PMOing but it turned out to be flatline. That then freaks them out and they want to make sure things still work so they touch all up on you...then leave you wanting and again...frustrated!

    Sry :( it all sucks. The whole process. I hope Your guy keeps up on his motivation though. My guy didn’t...
     
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  4. Rachie

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    Welp, we went to therapy and during the session, it came to light that WS has relapsed. He didn't PM, but he did break one of the P-sub boundaries on our list.

    So, I was right, he was acting like he had relapsed because he actually did. I wish to goodness that he was just flatlining. :(
     
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  5. Rachie

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    So, oddly, I feel a bit relieved. I've been secretly scared that he had started watching porn again and was lying to me about it. I've been scared that he has been MOing in the shower and not telling me.

    I understand that he relapsed. He broke a boundary and then instead of telling the truth, he lied. Not only did he lie, but he tried to gaslight me too. He's been moody and weird, and has been acting odd because he relapsed.

    I think I'm crazy, but in the middle of the anger, betrayal, and frustration, I feel so freaking relieved. It's all out in the open again. I was right in my suspicion that something was up with him. In some ways, we're back to the beginning again but I still feel hopeful.

    I'm angry but shouldn't I be angrier? No, he didn't PM, but isn't lying worse? Am I in denial? Is my judgment clouded? Has anyone else felt like this or am I living in la-la land right now?
     
  6. No you’re not crazy. Some things will trigger you differently at different times. This all changes. There will different levels of understanding at different levels of recovery I think. My guy relapsed w M at one point and I wasn’t as angry as maybe I thought I’d be because he was honest. I think being honest didn’t give him a pass necessarily bc if he continued to relapse regardless of honesty I would become increasingly upset about it. This is your journey and you will travel it the way you travel it. No right or wrong way of doing this imo.
     
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  7. TryingToHeal

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    I think everyone would respond differently. For me, lying makes me much more upset than anything else. But for you, I can see why you are relieved because you thought he might be PMOing again, which would be lying plus all that other stuff as well. I don't think you are in la-la-land! I think all responses to this would be valid.
     
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  8. Kenzi

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    I agree... It could be relief.
    Like if you thought it was worse or a binge?
    And it's just a picture.
    Just shows (cuz of gaslighting)
    How bad the addiction is.
    But now u know what to watch out for.
    So this itself is progress!
     
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  9. Rachie

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    I feel weird today. I didn't sleep good last night. I feel like I'm waiting for a bad phone call or something.
     
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  10. Kenzi

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    Or maybe good news.
    You never know.
     
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  11. Rachie

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    I think you're right. I think it's good news:D
     
  12. Rachie

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    So, late last night...we caved on our thirty day challenge. I feel bad. I'm scared that it's going to make things worse.

    I asked him today if we should restart the challenge. He said no, we don't need to. He's trying to convince me that because he didn't O, only I did, that we're still ok.

    That's not how this works. We set boundaries, we decided on rules. I don't know how to feel about all of this.

    He was the one who said that he needed this 30 day break. I tried to convince him that we could figure out an alternative, but he maintained that it was important to him.

    So, I agreed to it. Now we've messed it up, and he's trying to bend the rules. This is for him! We did the whole thing because it was important to him!

    Am I supposed to keep pushing for us to restart? I don't feel like I should have to, and honestly, I don't want to, for selfish reasons. I like sex and I miss it.
     
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  13. Kenzi

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    What do you want

    Are you OK with the mess up or are yo just ttrying to perfect others because he wanted to
     
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    I want to be with him, but I also feel like if I don't push it, and he relapses down the road, it'll somehow be my fault, like I caused him to fail by wanting him or something.
     
  15. We did this EXACT same thing in the beginning! After 90 is my second Journal. I talk about this in my first. But basically for the whole month of June we resumed having sex without him O only me. I was happy at first because we had lots more sex and he seemed so into me but eventually we started allowing him O's too and it sort of went back to normal..sort of. Reboot doesn't have to be "Hard" mode exactly it is still reboot if he refrains from just PM or technically even just P. The fastest results are from no PMO but if O only with Spouse/GF so that they reprogram yourself to you.

    Your journey is unique and individual but many of us have similarities. I feel like I've made plenty of mistakes in our journey. I think its just trial and error just wish it was easier!
     
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    WS suggested that maybe we could try me O and him abstain. Were things easier on your SO when he wasn't Oing? Did he still have any kind of chaser effect or things like that?
     
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    I gave him an opportunity to rebuild trust with me. I decided to hope and have faith that he would do the right thing.

    He lied. Again.

    I can't do this anymore. He keeps hurting me over and over.
     
  18. TryingHard2Change

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    So sorry to hear that @Rachie. I was just talking with someone today about how, as the PA, I recently reached a point of powerlessness concerning the future of my marriage..I wrote:
    "I feel like I reached a place of powerlessness regarding my marriage [whether it ends up in reconciliation or divorce] ... Not hopelessness! - just accepting that the outcome is out of my control. (not totally true--I can easily SABOTAGE my marriage by being bad / acting out / etc.)"

    Drawing your attention to the line in green....I am so sorry that it appears you PA is sabotaging your marriage. My heart goes out to you.
     
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    The pain is so unbearable. All I wanted was a husband who loved me. I can't do this anymore. I can't be his accountability partner. I can't talk to him when he's feeling tempted. I can't console him when he's feeling emotions for the first time in years and it scares him. I can't calm him down when he feels too much. I can't cheer him on when he's making progress. I can't celebrate with him when he's had a breakthrough. I can't cry with him when he cries.

    I can't do these things anymore. I don't care if I sound like a monster. Right after we got married I told him, after a bad fight, that one day he would break me. Six years later, and that day has come.

    It hurts too much. I have given him so many chances. His favorite words are, "just one more chance, just give me one more chance." Hundreds and hundreds of chances and he's wasted every one of them.
     
  20. Sry Rachie :( the whole thing just sucks! All of it! I hope he makes it right for you and your marriage. You’re strong hang in there and we are here for you! *hugs*
     
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