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First kiss & make out session questions

Discussion in 'Dating during a Reboot' started by JaMorant01, Mar 15, 2021.

  1. JaMorant01

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    Hey there, so I've stopped PMO for a little while now, around 120 days, everything is going great and I'll never go back on that decision that I made to never watch porn ever again.
    I'm 21, good looking dude, I improved alot as I used to be insecure and unnatractive and this is the first time in my life I'm dating a chick.

    First date went really well altho I was way too passive, and I just finished our second date today, we kissed, made out, half naked but we did not have sex. I'm too much in my head right now but I still had a few questions I wanted to ask the more experienced lads.

    First thing that's bothering me is that my penis worked as intended (great news), i was turned on but something didn't feel quite right, what I mean by that is that I didn't feel as attracted to her as I was getting turned on, it felt bland and I just didn't feel much at least not as much as I thought I would for a first make out session. (Maybe the girl isn't the right one) any guys with that kind of experience ?
    Also I'm not worried about the no sex thingy but I'm wondering whether I should've been more aggresive (unzipping my pants and letting her feel me), I did slide my hand towards her crotch but she just gently put it back up the few times I did, (which is totaly okay)

    Long post, if you guys read it all, I appreciate yall and your feedback.
     
  2. Trobone

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    If she pushed your hand back then you were too aggressive if anything. It's a second date, just let it happen.
     
  3. Slimjimjones

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    Just focus on her, you won't feel that same craze and horniness as you do with porn. And should also probably talk about sex before you do anything bud it's the 2nd date. If she stopped sex from happening if anything it makes more of a keeper.
     
  4. I think you're rushing into things too fast. The blandness you feel I would say is due to lack of romance, but romance takes time, effort, and sacrifice. The exact opposite of everything porn conditions us for. So take your time, focus on her and you'll be able to get out of your head. Also, if you couldn't see yourself with this woman for the rest of your life I wouldn't be having sex with her. Otherwise you are just using her, and then she becomes no more than a substitute to the self gratification of pm.
     
  5. JaMorant01

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    All these long years of heavy PMO use definitely affected me, I think it's the final nail in the coffin that proves it to me, I'm still fairly early in my recovery and I probably didn't recover my faculty to feel connections and deep emotions yet. We have good chemistry, but I think when we did make out I fell into old insecurities & into the trap of trying to do the 'right' thing, definitely took away from the moment.
    Appreciate the response mate!
     
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  6. JaMorant01

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    Thanks for your response, we don't see things eye to eye but I appreciate you giving me your opinion. I do think that you're right on the fact that I'm not focusing on the right thing, I should focus on building more intimate chemistry with her.
     
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  7. JaMorant01

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    I guess so, it was natural and didn't feel out of place, she didn't seem to feel uncomfortable too, we made out for what seemed like a long time, my hands just ventured a down until was a little low to her likings, she'd just gently let me know and i'd let her take my hand and move it up just a few inches. Anyways, I guess I'm being insecure and afraid that I didn't turn her on enough even tho I surely have the wrong expectations.
     
  8. ElSabio

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    At two dates you are just beginning to get comfortable with each other. Take your time and get to know her. Don't expect anything. If you are making out half naked on the second date things are moving quickly. Dating isn't a porno it's a dance. Enjoy it. She knows you want to go further so just have fun making out and wait for her to escalate things. Maybe even try pulling back a little on your next date meaning don't even go as far as you did the last time. Enjoy the process of getting to know her. All of the advice in this thread so far seems good to me.
     
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  9. PanteriMauzer

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    It happened the same to me, on my first kiss , it was nothing special i didnt felt anything when i did it
     
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  10. JaMorant01

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    It's crazy man, shows how much PMO shifted the way our brain works. I think I definitely had the wrong expectations but still, it's pretty nuts how it fucks with your reward system & the way you feel about anything that isn't a ridiculous surge of dopamine like PMO. Quitting is the best decision we'll make in our lifetimes as addicts, in my opinion it's a life or death type of decision.
     
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  11. How’s everything going now ??
     
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  12. greenishmoon

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    @StreetJesus305 Great signature.
    Yeah. I've also longed to kiss a woman for months and then did it and felt absolutely nothing.
    Sometimes it is also just that I was seeking for gratification (highness). Sometimes there's just no chemistry, it's a crazy thing. Sex happens in the mind, not in matter.

    EDIT: Oh, as for the girl you're dating, I know what does it feels to be anxious but I would enjoy every second of it. She's already into you.
     
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  13. JaMorant01

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    I'm not doing so good right now brother but I'm staying disciplined, 150 days into my reboot, keeping my good habits but I'm getting into overtraining territory with my workouts and I'm probably subject to PAWS too. As for the girl, told her to hit me up when she wanted to see me again, just being real and that was the end of it. Took it personnal a little at first but got over it in a few days. Uninstalled tinder as it fucked with my self confidence and ego and haven't met anyone since !
     
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  14. JaMorant01

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    Appreciate the response very much my man, where are you at in your reboot process ? It's actually nuts how much time might be required to heal and how bad the damage can be, I'm really grasping it right now, but I have faith that we're all going to get better over time, we gotta have faith.
     
  15. This gent is bang on. I've got some sexual experience under my belt, and what I've realised from many relapeses is that it is not exactly the sex act itself which I crave but the intimacy. I've only been using porn for maybe 4/5 years, and even then only maybe once every two days (not that I don't want to quit before it gets worse!) and one of the things I've noticed is that porn, even at my worst, was never enough for me. It was romance which I wanted; that is the difference between sex and masturbation. Proper, loving sex will leave you feeling content, masturbation always leaves you craving more. Anyway, really nicely done on the reboot, and good one deleting Tinder. I'd say it's probably the worst dating app there is, and dating apps ain't great anyway.
     
  16. CleanAgain

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    I had the same feeling: for me, it's not 'just sex' that I wanted. In the first place, I crave intimacy and connection with the girl, sex is like a 'next level'. I know there are people (maybe even the majority) that can enjoy sex without this connection and it's not a problem if both sides are left happy. The only problem is that in such an environment (where everyone is hooking up and it's totally common), one might feel like a weirdo when sex isn't the main thing.

    Anyways, good luck on your journey!
     
  17. greenishmoon

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    I'm happy that it landed well.
    I have been on consistent streaks for at least three years now (wow! yes, that's a lot of time trying now that I write it...).
    I am to this day one year without seeing porn. In this last year I did like three streaks of 30/40 days M free, and the rest of the time I focused on just lowering the average times I did it per month. I kept track of it in a notebook, colouring the days I marturbated. Once I felt prepared I enlisted in this 90 day streak. But my aim is to totally change my wiring altogether, as the 90 days is just something to keep going. The important thing is to not crave it anymore, and to build new paths.
     
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  18. JaMorant01

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    Great hearing you seem to be doing well ! I agree, I think Porn is 100% toxic and should be removed from our life entirely, forever. It's a hard thing to grasp at first, when you're just aiming for X days but the point is that this isn't a challenge so much as it is a life changing decision.
     
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  19. vercent99

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    Maybe you are demisexual
     

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