Fleshlights to cure DGS (death grip syndrome)

I strongly disagree with this recommendation. The rewiring of our brains is necessary because of artificial, sexual simulation. Is a fleshlight artificial, sexual simulation? Yes! What a person wants to do after they have completed the NoFap challenge is up to them. Nevertheless, trying to heal from porn addiction is going to be much more difficult and much slower if you are wanking your wang with a fake pussy. Your dick will become more sensitive during this process by not masturbating. It's as simple as that.

 

I also disagree with your perspective.I don't find any difference in getting desensitized due to over hand stimulation and using fleshlight.both seems same to me.its like two different type of artificial stimulation.

 

I personally agree with the OP, As long as its after the reboot and without porn and porn based fantasies. The reboot however needs a clean break from all sexual activity to be effective.
I see nothing wrong with the sex drive and for those not in a relationship it will help without the penis getting used to the hard grip of the hand.

The deathgrip is an issue just as much as porn is for ED

 

I agree with this comment @Booster. But @| Master Chief | is talking about using a fleshlight during the reboot - now!

 

Yes..I think that may do more damage than good

 

It's like an alcoholic deciding to drink only beer instead of high-proof stuff to overcome his addiction. Or it could be. I wouldn't risk it, plus there is no point in it as there is no point in masturbation in general... use your time for more interesting stuff!

 

Its also like a food addict whos on a diet eating healthy or a sex addict only having sex with his wife once in a while or an exercise addict sticking to a healthy dose of fitness , analogies do work both ways.

 

My point is i don't think having a healthy sexy drive is a problem, many people remain out of a relationship for a long period of time, I personally do not find masturbation harmful. if done in such a way to avoid the negative PIED and deathgrip syndrome. Im sure many people do have an issue with masturbating and then yes its all up to the individual, to decide if the effects are positive or negative.

I also agree if you're in a reboot then avoiding any trigger is essential, and i for one will never view porn again even after the reboot.

 

I think it's a bad idea. It's still fake. It's not going to make you more acclimated to a real vagina. Only a real vagina can do that.

 

What was it again? Something about after ejaculating, your brain release some sort of drug, that makes you wanna get close and cuddle! But what are you gonna cuddle, your fleshlight?

I mean, the women your brain, heart and soul crave for after release, isn't there.
And you're still contributing to the exact same industry, that made you an addict in the first place.

Personal opinion of course. If it helps, then you know what's best for you.

 

EXACTLY! Ever notice the claimes they make? "Feels like a real vagina" or "just like the real thing". This is because it is not at all like the real thing. Kind of like mascara companies claiming "smudge proof" or "non clumping" when every woman knows all mascaras clump and smudge. It is a marketing ploy. Have sex with a real person with a real vagina. I would never assume that having sex with a penis shaped toy would be the same as having sex with a real person. It is completely different.

But wouldn't sex with real people also help with "penetration anxiety"? Lasting longer is mostly about self control and not overstimulation from a fleshlight. Sometimes you need real world practice to get good at sex. You will likely fumble a lot but that is life. You will never learn about real sex by using objects I can guarantee that. You may learn how to orgasm but not how to have sex.

 

sarcasm and bad humor...

the fleshlight is an object. i think it does an excellent job simulating sex with other objects, like women, and goats, and any other well lubed orifice. emotional connections with the object just get in the way and ruin the fun.

 

I think many people here have a distorted view of what "reboot" is. The ones that do know what reboot is, haven't rebooted. This isn't about healing your penis. It's about healing your mind. This is so much deeper than penetrating a vagina, or a fleshlight. It's a sad fact that some of us will never understand that.

 

I do think there are many variations of issues on why we are all here, and sticking everyone in the same box is troublesome when people are discussing what should or shouldn't be done.

 

i am definitely guilty of losing sight of this fact.

the last thing i would ever want to do is drive someone away from the nofap community because i was attempting to get another poster to see things my way (a.k.a. 'the right way').

 

It depends on the guy really but if you have ED, PIED, excessive fapping or something similar to that nature then flesh light is not a good idea. It is like a drug addict stopping crack and start sniffing coke. For the brain to rewire it has to stop using the old brain circuits. Using flash light is not going to help.

 

Again we are talking after the reboot, not during, PIED is mainly caused from porn not the masturbation, studies have shown that most men who masturbated decades before porn didn't suffer from PIED or ED, It was only since porn became mainstream, especially Internet porn that desensitization has happened the main reason for ED and PIED.

If however the main problem for a male that decides to masturbate without porn is the death grip syndrome then a flashlight may help, that is all some people are saying. Could this lead to porn, Maybe, but it also may help the person keep off the stuff. not everyone is lucky enough to have a partner, many people are single decades.

Sadly all forms of sex/masturbation creates Desensitization, The Coolidge effect has shown this, Making love to the same partner every day and the novelty will wane.