fucking wet dream

Thank you IGY that made me feel better. Sometimes through all the shit it is difficult to see the light at the end of the tunnel.

Clumsy, I don't think wet dreams can be avoided. You say to sleep on your side, but everyone I know moves about during sleep, I pull the blanket up and down and toss and turn in my sleep, this is all unconscious and cannot be controlled. I've not gorged before going to bed, ever. I haven't looked at porn either and my wet dream came after a month of abstinence. I will agree to some extent that a wet dream doesn't help as it relights your desire for orgasm and most guys here only have porn as that outlet. If they were in relationships their outlet might be to desire sex with their partner, and to me this is good.

 

“Worry does not empty tomorrow of its sorrow, it empties today of its strength.”

 

I agree. Utterly preposterous. Yet when Clumsy is proclaimed the great leader of all of planet earth it will happen.

 

I can picture it now, a youthful lad has masturbated for the first time and has been caught by the police. They drag him off, kicking and screaming. The police take him straight to court where an old, stern looking judge condemns his crime of Masturbation.
"You dear boy, have been caught carrying out the disgusting and despicable crime of Onanism. You are a filth, boy! Utter filth! How do you plead?" The judge bellows to the timid boy.
"Not guilty, your honour." The boy whimpers back.
"NOT FUCKING GUILTY!" The judge rages.
"Yes." The boy sulks, beginning to cry.
"12 years hard labour for you boy..in siberia!"
The boy is handcuffed and led away to the cheers of everyone.

 

I'm considering of staying away from the rebooting section as much as possible lol

 

What a beautiful quotation. Do you have any idea who said that tweeby?

Actually I have just looked it up and the answer is Corrie ten Boom. There is some information about it here

 

All that I can say is that the people who are disagreeing with Clumsy should start doing some research on Eastern sciences. They are thousands of years old and include the subtle body not just the physical part that you can cut with a knife. This is where the west is lacking terribly. The west is just starting to admit these facts. Ayurveda science is over 5000 years old and is "The science of life". The Yogic science is also thousands of years old and is only shunned in America because of money and control by the powers that be. Then you have the ancient Taoist knowledge and Chinese medicine. The eastern countries have learned how to stay healthy long before us and have mapped the complete human form, energetic and physical, long before us Americans in the west came along. Don't be ignorant, Clumsy is right in many aspects and many are clueless because you have been brainwashed by the materialistic money and power driven agenda of the west where they push anti-depressants and anti-anxiety medicines instead of teaching people how to control their lives and minds, where they have been looking for cures for diseases like cancer and aids for decades yet get nowhere because all of the money is spent on research to "treat" the diseases instead of actual cures. Here they promote pornography and masturbation to "clean the pipes", They get people of all ages hooked on prescription pain killers based from opium which is heroin. They put the drug fluoride in your tap water to "help with cavities" while there is evidence that too much exposure kills brain cells and does tons of damage to your body, while some drink a gallon of water a day, shower in it, brush teeth with it, mouthwash, etc... Don't be so ignorant, the fluoride causes you to not be able to think for your selves. You cant seem to see the veil that has been pulled over your eyes. Do you know what fluoride does to your brain when it binds with aluminum in your bodies!? You don't want to trust me, keep using that aluminum deodorant. Keep getting those mercury based dental fillings. Keep drinking the information soup they feed you and see what kind of a future it brings. Its not funny it is sad but if you want to be ignorant and controlled have at it. Wont be my future.

Clumsy- Here is what I have accumulated on semen and energy. You are absolutely right that when you waste your seminal fluids you waste massive amounts of energy. This is obvious just based alone on the tired feeling after short sex. This is common knowledge to fighters and martial artists. Any ancient martial arts master will tell you this, it is especially important in the "internal arts" categories of martial arts. If anyone were to doubt this they could go to a local martial arts academy , boxing school, or Yogic science school and ask them.
The reason behind this is not easily explained. You need to understand the subtle body which includes the energetic body which is separate from the physical body (which America has ignored thus far), of the meridians and the astral body (google "leonardo's da vinci's star tetrahedron) and you will know what I am talking about.
The life force in the body is called Prana (energy). The prana body feeds the nervous system and the immune system. The vital energy that makes the semen is stored in the subtle state of the entire body including the blood, bones, flesh, muscles, nerves etc, which gives us energy to indulge in various day to day activities. Pranic energy in this state is integral with the entire body in a state of harmony and union. The body is fully geared and in availability of life force to perform action efficiently. Based on the kind of activity we indulge in, life force flows to that particular part to perform the action. For example when an athlete gears up to run a marathon, his life force focuses into his leg muscles. When a boxer is in the ring, his life force centers around his arm muscles, when a chess player in midst of a game, his life force is concentrated in his brain and so on.
When man is under sexual excitement, his life force or Prana is withdrawn from every part of the body and focused into the sex center. Life energy which was earlier in a subtle state of amalgamation with his blood, flesh etc… in the subtle state, separates from those regions to a large extent and flows to his sex center. This sends a signal for his testes to produce sperm. The prostate gland gets ready with the prostatic fluid. The Cowper’s glands ready up the Bulbo Urethral fluid. Man is now fully geared up to engage in the sex act. Almost all his vital energy, except the basic energy required for his vital organs to function has now come down to the sex center. Energy is in a state of wait to propel semen out of his system. Note how sexually aggressive a person becomes when he is fully aroused in the sex plane. This is further to all his Prana being in a state of sexual focus, In this state man cannot efficiently indulge in any other activity other than the sexual act. Ask a fully aroused man to play a game of chess… Semen in this state is the linear, gross representation of his Prana or vital energy in liquid form. Energy which was earlier in electricity like form has now become physical, embodied in liquid semen. In a man who constantly resides in the sex plane, his Prana is mostly in this gross semen form. This is the reason such people cannot effectively carry out any other form of work.
The nature of gross semen is expellation. Its sole purpose is to reach outside to aid reproduction. This is called the ‘ejaculatory mode’. It cannot perform any other function in this state. If not let out immediately, it will flow out in a wet dream. Once in the ‘ejaculatory mode’ semen can never be fully reconverted back to Pranic energy. The sexual glands secreted various physical secretions to manufacture gross semen. All these processes are not fully reversible even through transmutation and meditation. There are severe limitations. A considerable volume of vital energy will flow out, immaterial of meditation or celibacy, once it has reached this final gross form due to sexual duress.
This is why sexual thoughts and lust will cause wet dreams if one does not masturbate or have intercourse. This is also why doctors say that nocturnal emissions are "perfectly natural" in the west, because sex sells in America. Sexuality is every where you go. Everything is based upon sex here anymore and this is the new "normal". This is the sad truth.
When one leads a life of true celibacy in mind and body, conserving all his vital energy and transcending it from its NORMAL STATE (a less subtle form of prana) to a highly concentrated, very subtle state through techniques such as meditation, asana, Pranayama etc… His Prana becomes very subtle in nature. Its intensity increases to a great extent. It is akin to gross water being heated and converted to superheated-gaseous steam in a distillation plant. Vital energy now has enormous potential energy. It rises up like steam does and reaches his ‘AJNA CHAKRA’ or the point between his eyebrows. This is called the ‘OJAS STATE’,or "form" of Prana. The full power of this state is said to come to a celibate further to 12 years of true celibacy, without wastage of even a single drop of semen. His Pranic energy is now totally sublimated. It gives him many ability's that people who burn up this subtle form of semen through the sexual act can never attain, including a state of supreme bliss and self realization (merging with God).
Ojas can be related in English terms as "Vigor" or essential energy. This is also the substance that makes a baby have the glow like effect.

Celibates should understand what exactly sublimation is all about. Sublimation in reality is not conversion of gross semen into Ojas. It is conversion of subtle/ normal Prana into Ojas, by preventing the formation of gross semen. If you continuously indulge in sexual activity that brings down Prana from its NORMAL STATE to a lower GROSS/SEMEN STATE, sublimation becomes difficult and roundabout. It must again be brought back to its NORMAL STATE and then taken to the VERY SUBTLE/ OJAS STATE.

 

This knowledge is the true teachings of Jesus Christ. This is how he attained his God-self. He transcended the ego consciousness into Christ-consciousness. This is also the meaning behind the teachings of Moses in the bible, where it is written "And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, even so must the son of man be lifted up: that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have eternal life."
Moses transcended his bodily ego-consciousness up through the spine pathways of "ida and pingala" or (the 2 candlesticks / 2 olive trees - in Christianity) which is the pathway that is shaped as a "serpent" and runs through the "7 chakras" or (7 seals / 7 churches- in Christianity) of the spine. In the "wilderness" is in silence or "meditation". The bible was written in parables.
Another verse- "except a man be born of water and of the spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of god."
Water signifies sexual purity and is how the serpent energy (Kundalini) of the spine climbs up "Jacobs ladder" of 33 rungs or "vertebrae". Jesus taught one teaching for his disciples and one for everyone else. The true meaning is for those with ears that can hear and eyes that can see. We must be born of spirit and this is how spirit is born. This is the true baptism, or re-birth, dumping "holy water" on your head wont save you. Jesus taught an Esoteric version and an Exoteric version. When you finally understand this, when everyone understands this, Then we will have our "2nd coming of Christ".
I highly suggest the book "The Yoga Of Jesus" by Paramahanse Yogananda. Satan is working hard to deceive us all. Where do you think Jesus was during the "lost years of Christ" from 13-30? Living a normal family life? Get out of here with that, He was surrounded from birth. He was no doubt the savior and came here to bring peace to the world. Here is a clue, He was in India during those "lost years" practicing meditation and many spiritual teachings. All religions are the same on the deepest levels, but on the outside have all been corrupted and twisted in the name of power and control. Many have attained the "Christ-Consciousness" (Buddha, Krishna, Osirus, etc) just not at the level Jesus did.

 

i will write a letter to the CIA guys. maybe they can develop a machine which can influence dreams. maybe this machine exists already. whith this machine we could blank out wetdreams.

i would never use this machine because wetdreams are my savior. without them i would explode.

freedom for wetdreams - freedom for wetdreams!

 

This is not the place for a religious debate citratox (check the site rules). At any rate, it is offensive to Christians to superimpose Eastern 'science' and mysticism on Christ and his teachings.

 

there is nothing in my post that degrades any religion what so ever... Not one bit.
I am a Christian myself

 

Haha, oh my god. I had a good laugh.

Well I don't think it would be like that, more like, if anybody around sees what the kid is doing, that he/she is becoming gloomy and sad, tired and forgetful, then they would talk to him/her or send him/her to a place where he/she can get help.

If the masturbators keeps abuse his/her body, well maybe punishment is in order.

 

But many also report that wet dreams happens in a semi-concscious state, I myself actually avoided one yesterday, I was half-awake, half-sleeping but more sleeping I would say, and I dreamed about a very charming woman. In my dream I woke myself up, because I was terrified of losing my vital energy.

@Citradox - Thank you, you've made this very clear and you're very well understood with this. Don't forget that western medicine also admitted to some of this ideas about vital essence, most western doctors would before agree that semen was a vital fluid, with a lot of energy.

And you're also right that West is trying to sexualize us, I've a big trouble with my best female friend, she's constantly worrying about her appearance, her weight. She believes that if she is not attractive, her life will not be worth to live. However I'm trying to help her.

But fact is, we need to be humble. We cannot understand what true life is, what really separates the living from the dead? What is the difference between a man and a robot? I believe it's life essence, vital force. Chi, prana, whatever you call it. And we don't have infinite amounts of this energy. You don't have to be a monk to believe that.

 

clumsy here are wetdream-opponents and wetdream-proponents. that is ok.

i am a big proponent. for me a wet dream is a gift in this battle. i had two so far. i was in deep sleep. when i woke up it was too late. thank god!

for me this release is very important.

freedom for wetdreams!

 

Yeah and that is totally fine with me. If you feel like a wet dream does not do much harm to your reboot, and if you've no real trouble with them, if they happen occasionally and not everyday, then what's the matter. Then it's not much of a big problem. I accept that of course. I don't demand every guy here to go in complete celibacy, but from my personal view, I'm interested in celibacy and reaching higher states of awareness and appreciation for simple things in life.

 

But wet dreams can be avoided, both western and eastern medicine recommended people suffering from nocturnal emissions to eat less (check up the minnesota war time diet), sleep on the side (make sure that u tie something to your back to avoid falling back upon it during sleep), avoid erotic fantasy and to empty the bladder properly before sleep.

I avoid all my wet dreams - check the thread, citradox is doing this aswell.

 

I'm not entirely sure where you are attaining this knowledge, but it most definitely is not from the bible. A website perhaps? I do partially agree with it though.

 

It is all in how you read the bible. Most people read it literally and that will not get you far if you want the true teachings. Much of the core and advanced teachings are hidden well, while the simple laws of the lord are easy to see.
You would enjoy "The Yoga Of Jesus" I think. I just purchased his other book that follows The Yoga of Jesus, "The Second Coming Of Christ". It is a 2 book set of his deciphering of the bible, and being raised in a Christian family all of my life, no words have rang truer than his interpretation's for me.

 

Despite being a critic of some of the things you've written here, Clumsy, I can relate to a lot of that and feel the same. There is definitely something good that happens in our bodies and minds when we don't masturbate. Restoring our life force, or however we put it, there's something changing in us when we preserve semen rather than waste it endlessly in masturbation. I totally believe that this is a good thing in general and certainly wouldn't really want wet dreams every night. I don't think many would.

 

Good, and I think many does. But some people here argue against us because they cannot leave their ego bubble. Unfortunately.