German Post about "Porn does not destroy sex life!"

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  1. german5630

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    I trust Nofap, but I'm about to get back into porn. What should I do?


    translated in english:

    "Porn does not destroy your sex life - on the contrary
    Everything you know about the effect of porn on real sex is nonsense.
    from VICE Staff
    09 July 2016, 6:00am


    Porn distorts the sex drive, raises unrealistic expectations and makes people no longer want their real partners: Not only do die-hard pornographers believe this, it's actually almost a consensus in our society. Since streaming has made it possible, we watch more porn than ever before and at the same time we are worried about whether this is not somehow bad for us. Can it be healthy for a normal man to have seen 300 vaginas before he got out of bed in the morning?

    This discomfort has now given rise to a whole anti-porn movement that proudly calls itself "NoFap" and whose followers enthusiastically discuss the positive consequences of their abstinence in forums. Their mastermind is Gary Wilson, who has dedicated a website, a viral TED talk and an entire book to the alleged problem. In Your Brain on Porn, Wilson argues, among other things, that porn consumption permanently messes up consumers' dopamine levels, that excessive consumption must be classified as an addiction, and that pornography causes its very own form of erectile dysfunction.

    "If you keep watching these videos with real people having so-called real sex, it will eventually completely replace your own imagination," Wilson explained in an interview with VICE two years ago. "Because of Internet porn, some men suffer from erectile dysfunction, inability to climax, delayed ejaculation, declining libido with real partners, and declining interest in real partners.

    Wilson's theories sound plausible, but they have one problem: They're scientifically impossible to prove. Wilson himself likes to talk about "synaptic pathways" and dopamine, but he's no scientist himself. If you ask them, you come to quite different results.

    The American magazine Aeon has now published a detailed article that deals with this issue in detail. The author, Maria Konnikova, has tried to compile almost everything there is research on the effects of porn consumption on human sexuality. Her first finding: We still know far too little, because very few scientists are seriously studying the subject. But what we do know suggests that we are fundamentally wrong about porn.

    In one experiment, for example, sexual psychologists found out that porn consumption does not cause erectile dysfunction-just the opposite. The men who stated that they watched a lot of porn on a regular basis reacted more excitedly to films and afterwards had more desire to have sex with a partner than those who were less used to porn. In another study, the researchers asked 44 heterosexual couples to watch porn - together and alone. The result: the couples who watched porn had more desire for each other, even if they had not watched the movies together.

    The other findings Konnikova collected from social research are quite fascinating:

    There is no evidence that men who watch porn often compare their real sexual partners with the actresses and that this has long-term effects on the relationship.
    There is no evidence that porn consumption leads to unrealistic expectations and the urge for more daring experiments.
    Porn does not make men violent and does not change their attitude towards women. Researchers have found that pornography only has a negative effect on men who have had a propensity for sexual aggression before.
    There is no such thing as porn addiction.

    Especially the last point is hard to digest for many NoFap activists. There are whole forums where offended NoFappers get upset about articles that question the reality of their porn addiction. "[Sexologists] want to avoid being found to be addicted to pornography," Wilson defended the concept to VICE. "Because they fear that sex in general will be labeled negative once porn consumption is labeled harmful."

    Konnikova would disagree with him that's exactly where the problem lies: Pornography is not the problem. Because we have a strange relationship to our own sexuality and the position of women in society, our pornography reflects that. And because we do not dare to talk freely about sexuality with children, they have to learn everything they know about it from pornography. Instead of demonizing pornography, Konnikova demands that we should start talking about sexuality more positively and more freely."
     
  2. Indurian

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    Through personal experience I am inclined to disagree with 100% of the conclusions reached by Maria Konnikova.
     
  3. What does this article have to do with all the different users here who certainly are suffering in their life? I think we all should focus on self-improvement and what works for us, instead of making the whole world see eye to eye with whatever theories we might be believing in... :)
     
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  4. Psalm27:1my light

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    Hmmm... and how do they explain the increasing number of young men with Ed? My husband had pied for 5 years! He’s been clean over a year and 0 problems with Ed now. He no longer has de either which he literally had on our honeymoon! Part of the problem with these “ studies” is they are for the most part very short term. I believe porn addiction needs long term use (months perhaps?) before problems really begin to show. My husband never wanted sex even at 25, he would turn me down every day if the week. At 51 we have more sex now than any other time in our marriage.
     
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  5. Johnnytwohats

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    I think whoever weote that article came from a place of greed, frightened of how this book and nofap may have a negative effect on the porn industry.

    I have recently read your brain on porn nd this highlights some very real problems jn my life. Sure Wilson is not a scientist but niether am i and i have a brief idea of how dopamine works. Half of Wilsons theories are common sense if you think about it ...the fast food comparison makes sense. Many people are addicted to fast food and the reason the do not consume so much of it is because of physical restraints i.e stomach, appetite etc. The fact porn is limitless and available 24/7 along with no limit to the amount of consumption allowed makes sense that this in turn would reprogram the brain .

    If you get back in to porn then that is your call bro, just understand that there are Consequences. Stay strong if you can but also do what works for you ! Good luck
     
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  6. watermellon28

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    Trust me porn can ruin your sex life.
    You don't have the motivation to seek out real girls because your brain is sexually satisfied (and falsely).
    It can cause erectile dysfunction, happened to me and I was appauled since I'm only 22.
    And there is more
     
  7. RaXaZ

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    The source of the article says it all.
     
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  8. Kurfus

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    It is just B.S probably sponsored by you know who.
    Same goes for other scientific articles sponsored by you know who.
    What are they going to tell new me after almost 20 years of addiction and hell created by them. At first it brings satisfaction and a way of releasing pressure, when you realize this is long gone and only loneliness and sorrow is left.
    Even though I remain clean since years, damage is done and I will always be an addict BUT you can leave this misery behind, it is posible, there is HOPE.
    Today everyone speaks about COVID19, you know what, Phornography is also another epidemy affecting most of the men in the word but nobody says nothing.
     
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  9. ReclaimedLife

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    If you believe this article, then you choose to believe it.
     
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  10. Lion's Roar

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    I remember Germany is one of several countries which legalized prostitution.
     

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