Get a reboot, then a prostitute.

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Exactly, Abel.

I am setting one (and only one) night with a prostitute as a reward for a big nofap streak.

After that, I am going back to date "normal" women again, which was my objective since I joined nofap.

My intention is not to make prostitution a regular basis in my life, but just to set a prize for a big sacrifice done.

This is the way I say to myself : "good job, mate!".

Now you can finish eating your kangaroo meat, Australian fellow.
 
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Brazilian_flipflops said:
Exactly, Abel.

I am setting one (and only one) night with a prostitute as a reward for a big nofap streak.

After that, I am going back to date "normal" women again, which was my objective since I joined nofap.

My intention is not to make prostitution a regular basis in my life, but just to set a prize for a big sacrifice done.

This is the way I say to myself : "good job, mate!".

Now you can finish your cheeseburger, American fellow.
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Hahahaha! He's Australian, not American. And not all Americans eat cheeseburgers! That was mean though...

~squeaky Soul
 
I edited the post, Squeaky. Thanks for the information.
 
My friend, respectfully, I believe that you have not yet realised the extent of your sex addiction and are either in denial or are confused. Wish you all the best. Peace :cool:
Brazilian_flipflops said:
I appreciate your opinions, but if sleeping with an escort gives me the possibility of staying hundreds of days without PMO, then it is a great idea.

By the way, I would sleep with a pelican if that could give me the motivation enough to have a long nofap streak.

When you are many years stuck in this bad habit, any little spark of hope is a big deal, even if that means taking an unorthodox idea like mine.

And just to make clear, I am NOT running from human interaction, because I used to have 2 girlfriends before all this mess, but I broke with them in order to make myself rid of PMO for life.

My progress in nofap is a journey towards having a healthy sex life again, NOT the oher way around.
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Just wondering though....Is the sex with a fancy hooker/prostitute rewarding or satisfying as one fantasizes?
Or are we better off entirely without it?
 
I don't think it's fair to judge if someone pays for sex - it really is up to the individuals involved and if they have do it without harm. There are some amazing girls working in nice places that do very well out of it. And if it's pleasurable and consensual well that's up to the people.

Escort agencies exist because there's a demand and there are girls that fill that demand. If it becomes addictive or a soulless pursuit that's one thing. But as this case is about abstaining from PMO and rewarding your self later with escort services - so long as it doesn't harm anyone, that's up to the individuals. Judging people for it is harsh.

Sleeping with loose women that aren't workers isn't anymore noble. Lying to girls and deceiving them to have sex with them is terrible. If it's anonymity and a sense of safety and control over the situation a guy wants and if it's a chosen profession for the girl that she wants to do. Well, that's between the escort and her client.
 
i was always thinking like you described in your post Lat.

there are amazing girls doing this job. but i get used to it. i lost the ability to communicate to normal girls.

a prostitute is doing only her job. everything she is doing is fake. she is working. some prostitutes have 15 men each day. you are one of them. they are like machines doing sex.

i dont know if i can resist visiting a prostitute. this shit is so easy to realize.

everyone can do it there is no skill doing this.

215 you are right - real man can get girls without money.
 
Hello friend, i think people who say that your strategy is stupid have good intentions, but they speak from a moral point of view, while you need an advice about reebooting. I asume you've tried many tings to keep a longer streak before thinking of an escort. trying new ways is the key for NoFap. You can't just relapse and then try the same strategy again and expect different results. Prostitution/sex is NOT porn, Its the REAL deal. You cant get addicted to it, because sex is a natural reward. Unnatural rewards are: drugs, junk food, PORN etc.. Its perfectly okay to go to an escort once after the reboot and then start a normal relationship whit a woman. If you like what i wrote please comment to let me know so i can feel good, because everybody here seems to be on a different opinion. :)
 
abel i hope this not too privat - how old are you?

i am 36 years old and i live in germany.

going to prostitutes is definitely wrong!

but if there is a god - he built some of us weak. way too much lust in our soul. impossible to handle.

for example i have severals friends which would never visit a prostitute. it is ethical not right for them. but i have friends like me visiting lots of hookers. i think i visited about 300 in my life. we destroyed the ethical issue.

the main point of view for us was - this is a business between me and the hooker. i am friendly and polite. i want sex and she wants money.

i know there are girls which are forced to do this job. but we never visit this girls (maybe visited some unknowingly).

we visited girls doing this with their own will. a hooker in germany earns the same money like a lawyer for example. the beautiful ones with lots of clients.

so the only one who can judge humankind is god (if he exists) - but he is also the one who created us.
 
Abel said:
Judging is not about fairness. It's always funny to hear or read things like "please don't judge me". Judging is inherent to human nature and depends on each person's values. Whether you like it or not, everyone judges by his own criteria and is judged by others' criteria. There's no stopping it. There's no controlling it. All you can do is agree or disagree with others' values.

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I agree, but one can try to minimize judging. It helps to get down to to the truth.

Young children mostly do NOT judge. They mainly see & feel, and so they are open for everything, and they learn.

And all great thinkers and scientists did so, and still do so - they go beyond the limits and look deeper.

Judging means to take some sort of law or moral guideline, and then to compare or to "measure" a certain action with this guideline. And then you say "good" or "bad" - instead of simply watching and saying NOTHING.
 
Brazilian_flipflops said:
I appreciate your opinions, but if sleeping with an escort gives me the possibility of staying hundreds of days without PMO, then it is a great idea.
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This kind of thinking shows that you are still captured within your addiction.

All your thinking is still centered around "getting casual sex".

I know this very good, because I was at this stage myself.

But the idea is to seek to setup a REAL STABLE RELATIONSHIP with a woman, which in turn will give you a TRULY FULFILLING life.
 
You can be addicted to real sex without being addicted to porn or masturbating. Just ask the guy who has a million one-night stands on his record.

Why do we judge? Because other's standards and action don't meet ours, and we believe we're right. Taoism teaches to let go of the ego, and without the ego you have nothing to compare others to, and therefore you cannot judge. You shouldn't judge others anyway, but that's besides the point.
 
Lat said:
I don't think it's fair to judge if someone pays for sex - it really is up to the individuals involved and if they have do it without harm. There are some amazing girls working in nice places that do very well out of it. And if it's pleasurable and consensual well that's up to the people.

Escort agencies exist because there's a demand and there are girls that fill that demand. If it becomes addictive or a soulless pursuit that's one thing. But as this case is about abstaining from PMO and rewarding your self later with escort services - so long as it doesn't harm anyone, that's up to the individuals. Judging people for it is harsh.
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I agree to this, judging is wrong, because it is a REALITY -- and as we all know, even amongst the "highest spritual leaders", like the Vatican... And what about those politicians who openly want to "ban that moral trash" and two years later you hear he was was paying prostitutes for years.


I myself was with prostitutes in younger years, and it really helped me a lot and to improve my self conscience. Actually, I did not really "consume" sex there - actually I was not able to reach an orgasm there - it was mainly exciting and I was curious to meet these girls and to look behind the curtains. In fact, I found there were some really nice girls who even gave me good advices.

But I knew from the beginning on that this leads to nowhere, and since I was always good at flirting with women, I gave it up - why should I pay, if I get the same for free?
 
Well, quite a mature point of view I must say....something worth observing and pondering about! ;)
But I guess the point of contention here is not whether what he is doing is good or bad, whether it should be judged or not, but whether it will make him feel shitty afterwards, just like PMO ing does to us. Is that behaviour in line with a PMO free behaviour?
From what some Fapstronauts have shared with us,visiting a hooker made them feel awful afterwards. I am of an open mind and either thing is fine with me, so long as it is consistent with what we seek i.e rebooting physically and mentally. What if this guy ends up feeling absolutely empty afterwards and laments this decision for a long long time. That feeling could make him feel real hollow too.
In a perfect world, we should not judge if someone is PMO ing in private, but I guess we have to look at the holistic picture overall.
Nevertheless, I am enjoying this thread :D :)


Lat said:
I don't think it's fair to judge if someone pays for sex - it really is up to the individuals involved and if they have do it without harm. There are some amazing girls working in nice places that do very well out of it. And if it's pleasurable and consensual well that's up to the people.

Escort agencies exist because there's a demand and there are girls that fill that demand. If it becomes addictive or a soulless pursuit that's one thing. But as this case is about abstaining from PMO and rewarding your self later with escort services - so long as it doesn't harm anyone, that's up to the individuals. Judging people for it is harsh.

Sleeping with loose women that aren't workers isn't anymore noble. Lying to girls and deceiving them to have sex with them is terrible. If it's anonymity and a sense of safety and control over the situation a guy wants and if it's a chosen profession for the girl that she wants to do. Well, that's between the escort and her client.
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io123io said:
Prostitution/sex is NOT porn, Its the REAL deal. You cant get addicted to it, because sex is a natural reward.
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No it is NOT the "real" deal, because you exchange money for sex.

In a "real deal", you at least would exchange "sex for sex". But this is only the first step.
If you get more mature, it goes much deeper and I even wouldn't call it a "deal" anymore.
It's more a form of synergy.

In a good partnership, every partner can stand alone, but still, by being together, you are lifting each other even more.
 
I still cannot believe that in a forum that is dedicated to help people break free from a bad form of sex addiction, we could be talking about possibly feeding another worth form of sex addiction. To those of you who seem to paint prostitution in a good light, would you be happy if your daughter was a prostitute? Would you be proud of introducing her that way to your friends. "This is my daughter and she is a escort (prostitute). She gets paid to perform sex acts with people" :cool: Just because there is demand for something it does not make it right. There is demand for porn, drugs, even child porn and many other ills. It does not make any of those right. This is not about religion or politics. But just because some leaders do make mistakes it does not mean that the principles they advocated were wrong.

When the author of this thread first asked the question, it did seem innocent and coming from someone who genuinely wanted to ask for advice. But after reading more it seems that he already had what he wanted to do and just wanted to gain sympathy and approval. I would say, if you want to go and have sex with prostitutes (while you have a girlfriend btw)go ahead and do what you like. But don't kid yourself about your seriousness to win over this sex addiction. You will soon realise that all the hard work you have been putting on will amount to nothing. Breaking free from cannabis and getting hooked on meth is not victory at all :cool:
 
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