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Discussion in 'Porn Addiction' started by William, Dec 16, 2013.

  1. CleanForce

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    Thanks for your post! This thread is very helpful and empowering.

    I decided to switch to real life sources of dopamine like running, sleeping well, eating properly, connecting with others in a meaningful way and reaching my goals. That makes me happy in the long run, not only for a moment of pleasure. It also helps me to cope with withdrawal symptoms, when I can focus on other activities.

    Still, there's a long way to go. It's good to know that there are others who succeeded. Thank you again!
     
  2. Jersey

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    The last 10 years (I'm 30) I'm trying to stop PMO, falling all the time. I'm just beginning this "new try" and I've just found this site. This really helps a lot. Thank you all guys for being here making this effort. It is really good to have you here, right now, to reading you...even if I don't know you. This words, knowing your experiences was son necessary for me. Thanks, deeply, thanks.
     
  3. Up up and away

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    Great thread, great advice.
     
  4. Needsomehelp

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  5. leo90

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    Thanks...this helped a lot today.
     
  6. vik17

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    Thanks a lot William. I'm able to successfully avoid pmo now. Urges are quite hard, withdrawals are present, but they are only temporary. I'm on day 12 and, hopefully, I will never relapse. Some benefits that I've noticed are that I don't think of girls as sexual objects anymore, I am more focused while studying and I procrastinate way less. I still need to improve on that but I'm on my way.
    I'd like to mention that, what you stated about giving up pmo for life and not for a specific no. of days was a huge insight for me. Prior to that, I was always thinking that I must try to reach a preset no. of days but, at midway, I would rationalise thinking Well, just once, is not that bad. I can reset my counter and return to abstain for this no. of days again.
    Now, every time my urges rationalise pm, I keep reminding myself: 'pmo is a thing of the past. It has nothing to do with me anymore. I am never going to relapse.' Upto now, it has worked wonders. I just need to keep up and never surrender to urges.
     
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  7. UrgeDestroyer

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    William, thanks for your encouraging words. I am on day nine of being PMO-free and this us exactly what I needed to read today.
     
  8. ILiveAgain

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    You've verbalized essentially what I was thinking upon joining this community. So far I've made it to 21 days and I don't see myself going back, although it is a daily fight and I'm far from having purged my craving for porn.

    One thing you say, however - that thinking of porn is porn, that it feeds the addiction - I know that is true, but that's the hardest thing. In particular, I have no control over my dreams, and in dreams I do see some porn scenes I viewed too many times. These also come back to haunt me during the day in an extemely vivid way: it's almost as if I was looking at it, and it has the same immediate dopamine rush effect, and in a matter of seconds I can start having an erection. And it's hard to fight against that. How am I supposed to not think about it? Sometimes it seems to more I try not think about it, the more I think about it.
     
  9. Kye001

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    Hi I'm 81 days in - towards going without PMO and MO. I've had one moment where I watched a small P clip but did not MO over it.
    I'm confused. The first 8 weeks I felt better than usual. Some small withdrawals. The last two weeks I have been feeling highly anxious, stressed, get bored easily and agitated.
    I have not had sex for over 3 months. I feel I'm lacking something, like intimacy with someone.
    And yet I know I'm way better off without P, PMO and MO.
    But well it has confused the hell out of me. I seem to be smoking more to get some hit, like PMO or MO gave me the "release of anxiety feeling".
    I want to reach the goal of 90 days without PMO and MO.
    But then I'm like already thinking of MO asap. Should I or shouldn't I?
    I'm afraid I may undo all the good healthy stuff I've worked towards to date!
     
  10. fapoholic23

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    Hello, fapoholic23 here.

    I was referred to this website by a close friend with whom I discussed my addiction to porn. I am also a recovering addict and alcoholic, clean for other 7 months now and the next thing I want to eliminate is my addiction to porn.

    I am really glad that communities like this exist. I no longer feel as isolated as I did, even just a few days ago.

    My nofap challenge starts today. For 90 days, 1 day at a time, I can and will overcome my addiction to porn!

    Thank you for creating this thread.
     
  11. William

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    Day 361. No relapses. No porn. No PMO. No MO. Filters have been off five months now. I want everyone to avoid triggers, but at this point, I don't trigger. Rebooted. In four days I will be one year clean. In four days I will post my final post here. For many months I have visited this place almost daily. It has become part of my daily routine. In four days, I go. I will not return. I will never relapse, NEVER. I am never going back.

    To those of you who post here, I want you to know there is only black and white, and the distinction is harsh. When it comes to porn addiction, there is only quit....and continuing to use, but maybe a little less. You won't beat this addiction unless you beat it 100%. There are clusters of guys here who are consistently beating it 80% of the time, and they get together and pat themselves on the back. They are serial relapsers, but really they are just addicts who have cut back a bit. Morally, they are probably great people, I don't judge them because I had it at least as bad as them, but they will be here in 20 years unless they see the light.

    It is odd to say thank you and goodbye to a community of anonymous users, but you have helped me, the old ones and the young, so thank you. I am back here in four days to say what I have learned from one year of abstaining from porn. I promise you, it is not profound, but if you are trying to quit, it will be helpful.

    Peace.

    Billy the Kid.
     
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  12. IWantABetterLife22

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    Your last post was touching to read William. Congratulations, and I look forward to reading your final post.
     
  13. galaxim

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    From my own experience, it's exactly how you describe it: black and white, no grey areas.
    Congratulations!!!

     
  14. no-one-is-immune

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    Congratulations William,

    And thank you. Your posts have helped me a lot in understanding some things. And I am sure you have influenced many many people here.

    And it is your testimony that this thing can be beaten that is especially powerfull.

    Congrats again and enjoy your "new" life, even if it one year old.
     
  15. Fatbaron

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    Thaughtful and unselfish! really good Karma coming up for william
     
  16. Great quote in your signature William. Even cooler that the guy is a runner. Going to die to myself right now and every day. Thanks!

    "whoever loses his life for my sake will find it" - Matthew 10:39
     
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  17. EverettSmith14

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    Hi William,

    Thank you for all you have done for me. You have really been a great mentor and inspiration. I know you have helped many. Your notes to me came at jus the right time. I would not be where I am now with out your influence. Farewell my friend. This passage comes to mind....

    Timothy 4:1-7
    1I charge thee therefore before God, and the Lord Jesus Christ, who shall judge the quick and the dead at his appearing and his kingdom; 2Preach the word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all longsuffering and doctrine. 3For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears; 4And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables. 5But watch thou in all things, endure afflictions, do the work of an evangelist, make full proof of thy ministry.

    6For I am now ready to be offered, and the time of my departure is at hand. 7I have fought a good fight, I have finished my course, I have kept the faith: 8Henceforth there is laid up for me a crown of righteousness, which the Lord, the righteous judge, shall give me at that day: and not to me only, but unto all them also that love his appearing.


    Farewell William, you have fought the good fight....and won!
     
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  18. William

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    One year clean. 365 days. No relapses. No Porn. No PMO. No MO. Clear. One and done. Goodbye.

    This is my final post. I want to thank everyone who has ever read this thread or replied to it. Almost everyone who has posted here, replied here, has had very kind and encouraging words to say to me, and I thank you for that, but it is I who am in your debt. Your words have helped me. How do we help ourselves? We help ourselves by helping others, so thank you, you have helped me.

    This post is for my brothers who are addicted to porn and want to overcome the addiction. If you do not believe in porn addiction, if you do not believe you are addicted, if you want to keep porn in your lives, if you are here trying to control porn, but do not want to give it up, if you are an academic or are producing a television show, go away. Quit reading right now. This post is not for you. Find another place, another forum. This post is only for the hardcore, those dedicated to eliminating porn abuse from their life. If you are not in that group, I have nothing valuable to say to you.

    ...OK...for those remaining....

    To quit...the first step in quitting it to walk the narrow path. The narrow path is a straight line immediately in front of you. Think of it as your future. If you are quitting porn then your future is the narrow path. If you can walk the narrow path for 90 days, most of you will be cured. It may take longer and some can walk it for less time and be cured, but the narrow path must be walked. The narrow path is difficult, but doable. It requires you giving up something you absolutely adore, a dopamine high, but it is the only way to overcome our problem. The narrow path means absolutely abstaining from porn. If you are going to get clean from porn addiction it is a toy you must put down, walk away from, and dedicate yourself to never picking up again. It helps to find a reason to quit porn that is far more important to you than using porn. Toward that end it helps to ask yourself "what value does porn have in my life, how is it improving my life, how does porn make my life better?" The obvious answer is, porn improves your life in no way. Yes, obvious, but not obvious to the porn addict. To quit you must first embrace the obvious, then, you will have great success if you have something in your life you clearly love more than porn, something that, when you are tempted, and you will be, will be your reason for quitting. It helps to have a reason to quit. Without a reason to quit, why quit? So, what is your reason?

    The narrow path. Big problems require big solutions, but solutions require big souls. The narrow path. Defining your problem as huge, while tempting for all of us when quitting, is ultimately unhelpful. You do not have a huge problem, you have a small problem. Small problems require small solutions. What is your problem? You are having a chemical reaction to visual stimulation. You are here because, for some reason, you do not like the effects the chemical reaction is having in your life. You love the chemical reaction itself, you are wired to, but it is still just a chemical reaction. You are on a drug, dopamine, that you don't like anymore. I have fun with my sexuality now, I enjoy it, it can be profound and it can be silly, but it's fun, now. Sexuality for the porn addict is not fun; it is something that is required daily, it is a chore, it is going to work, because it must be done. It started out as funny, as a distraction, as an amusement, but it is not fun anymore. It is a roller coaster, but not one you go to once or twice a year, but one you get on every morning, a few times a day, because on some level you cannot stop. Well, I stopped. So can you.

    When I first began this journey I thought understanding the problem was the solution. Now I understand that, while helpful, understand the problem is not the solution. The solution to the problem is not engaging in the problem. You need to take active steps to quit using porn, and that means blockers. K9 seems to be the preferred method, but I also used Fox Filter. No filter can completely eliminate porn if you are dedicated to finding it, but if you are dedicated to NOT accessing it, they are helpful.

    As for me, I am back to normal. It did not take me a year. I stayed to help. But it is time for me to go. Thank you Alexander for this place. I don't think you fully understood what you were creating here, but it is a good thing. Thank you Gary Wilson. Thank you Gabe.

    Now, for something that has nothing to do with porn addiction. I am posting the following vid. Turn it to 11 and dance around the room as hard as you can, until you are exhausted. Kids, if your parents complain, tell them Uncle Will gave you permission.

    "Been looking back down through the ages. First I was an ancient, then I was an infant, now I am alive."

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ahkoJkcDo2Y

    For those who have asked, I don't really feel it is helpful to discuss my religious views here. The narrow path and all that. But, if you watch the above vid, at 2:50 in, you will find a clue. Just look up. Wait for it.

    Adieu.

    Peace, much love, Good Luck on your Journey. I'll see you in another life, Brother.

    Will I AM.
     
  19. no-one-is-immune

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    Thank you William, your final post has been a joy to read. So much hope and encouragement!

    To all the other guys (n gals) on here, we can all do this! We can all make the 365 days and beyond!
     
  20. IWantABetterLife22

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    I definitely got something "positive and helpful from this thread" brother. You'll be missed, but your legacy will be remembered. I'm sure I speak for all of us when I say thanks for all your help, and I'm really happy you were able to "return to normal."
     

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