Girls who hoard friendzoned boys.

The woman enters the house followed by a guy. The guy is all smiles thinking that great acts of intimacy are about to occur. But, alas, the woman launches into a rant about men.

“My ex-boyfriend was such a jerk,” she began. “Why is it that men treat me so roughly?”

The guy then transformed into Mr. Sensitive. “There, there,” he purrs. “They do not know how great you are! You are beautiful, lovely, enchanting, dazzling in every way, and they are idiots when they cannot see it.”

“You are so nice! What a friend you are!” she squeals. “Let me tell you more of my problems with men...”

And so the guy, who was excited because great acts of intimacy would occur, leaves severely disappointed with a hollow feeling echoing throughout him. “I thought that through friendship, love would eventually spring. How wrong I was! A friend she sees, a friend you be.”

When he entered the house, the guy noticed a sign above the door. At the time, he was too excited to even CONSIDER reading it. Now that he was leaving, he read it. “So true!” he cried. For the sign above the door read:

Friendship- Abandon all hope ye who enter!

“But why, Pook!? Why is friendship hopeless!? I fall in love with my female friends. Do they not do the same?”

Pook then called up a woman. She appeared in a blaze of fire (probably from the place which all women are from...).

“Oh woman, pray tell! Why do you not go after your male friends?”

The woman looked amazed that anyone could ask her that. “Because they are just friends.”

“But do they not fall in love with you?”

“Yes. My male friends constantly fall in love with me.”

“And, speak truly madam, what do you and your male friends do?”

“Oh! Well, we hang out. We talk a lot.”

“Talk? About what?”

“Everything. Anything.”

“And they fall in love with you.”

“Yes.”

“Ahh...” said the Pook. “Now we have the answer. Away with you!” And the woman vanished in a fireball.

“What answer?”

“Why, it is a difference between the sexes. Young man, what do you do with your friends?”

He looked thoughtful. “We play basketball. We ride around town. We play video games. We...”

“But do you and your guy friends ever sit around and talk about your feelings and things going on in your life?”

The young man looked angry. “HELL NO!”

“There is your answer. Men do not get together and just talk. We do things. When we are with our women friends, we talk much more. Since we reserve our talking, sharing emotions and experiences, to our romantic interest, we get confused with our female friends. We begin to get interested in them because of this.”

“But what about women, Pook?”

Pook pointed to the telephone lines above them. Lightning surged and glowed along the lines.

“The phone lines! They are on fire!”

“Indeed. When women get together, what do they do?”

The young man looked at the fiery lines. “They talk!”

“About what?”

He looked thoughtful as sparks rained on him. “Everything!”

“Women usually aren’t used to getting together and doing pure action. So when they do so with their guy friends, they get a bit confused as well.”

“I see...”

“So avoid the friendship route. When you see a woman you are interested in, go for her romantically. For a friend she sees, a friend you shall always be.”

 

But why would you WANT to get with a girl who talks about having an affair with another guy?

 

when will you guys learn....
you need to be more alpha, take what you want in life, - you have to be more ambitious!

Common dude, you could've easily gotten this girl if you simply straight up flirted with her, touched her, etc.

Stop beating around the bush next time, women generally respond well to assertiveness, wealth, good looks, strong personality, and self-reliance.

-all traits and skills which I now have

 

I was skeptical of this knowing it was coming from you, but it had it's moments.

 

BRUH. Tbh, I'm not a fan of the friendzone victim mentality. I think you are maybe not being fair to her, but I'd love to be proven wrong! Women talk, as it has been mentioned, so any expectations of the relationship should have been given to you. Some women talk more than others *cough* but even those who use subtext more give themselves away. When did you first indicate your interest? Man or Woman, if they START THE RELATIONSHIP OFF WITH: "I'm not looking for a relationship/have a S.O./am having an affair/confused about my ex/like this other person/just want to be friends/ECT"
YOU TWO ARE FRIENDS. You were never "Friendzoned," you just weren't listening. It's the hopeful heart that thinks it can somehow change their mind while they've told you no.
Unrequited feelings suck. Been there, even now *cough*, but really any pain I feel is my fault. You are supposed to leave at the first sign. But we usually don't and then complain how dare they not like someone nice like us.

 

My take on is this. I had a similar situation years back. I won't bore you with the details but I picked up a girl at the bus stop, she used to wait at the same stop I used to take to work, never took the same bus as me though.

I saw she was eyeing me... being the dashing young looker that I am LOL, and I was checking her out for a long time, but never really had the confidence to approach her. One day I did, it was lame, I had a note scrunched in my back pocket which read, 'Hey there's a girl who catches the 34 bus, I was wondering what her name was?'

Hours later got a text from her and we continued flirting over the phone. I was pretty stupid back then, I got her a red rose one day. Took her by the hand and down the alley behind the supermarket where the bus stop was. Told her I was going to kiss her... to which she smiled, then got real nervous took out a chewing gum and offered her to take it.

Needless to say she wasn't impressed and nothing happened. LOL. Then I got super needy.

Anyway back to the point, during a conversion over coffee, she mentioned 'ANOTHER' guy she was supposedly seeing. I got real flustered by this. My mate at the time, said the other guy might have been just a fabrication to see how needy I get.

Kinda like another shit test... This could well have been what happened with you, and these tests always seems to come after a failed attempt at seduction. We will never know.

All I do know is, a girl wouldn't even allow herself to go on a one to one with a guy unless there was some thought of it going the whole way. But alas guys can fluff this up. This is what I interpret when girls says they hang out with guys but there was no chemistry.

Guys idea of chemistry = Is she hawt.
Girls dig the whole idea of calmness and authority over looks.

You are in the throws of self improvement and seem to be aware of what it is you need to be doing. Go ahead and carry on. The time will come.

 

I don't think there's much you can do but to move on. If you made an effort in the past and it didn't work, it probably was not meant to be and she felt no chemistry but I could be wrong.

Unfortunately the powerful way to attract women is money. But of course not all women are like that.

 

You are right on her shady behavior. Cards/flowers are always appreciated IF it's been made clear she sees you in that way.
Rejection in any form is hard to not take personally. I don't blame you for that. The best thing you can do is move on, which I can tell you're trying

 

Girls tests and they have all the right to do so, they get approached daily, and if they don't put up tests to see who is worthy of their time, they would fall for everyone who puts up an act. I don't believe the "nice guy" mentality, the "nice guy" is not genuine, that is why he don't get the girl. You can be kind to a girl and she will like it if she sees that you are genuinely listening and is engaged in a conversation where you don't have your tongue stuck in her asshole. But at the same time, when you see her testing you or doing something dodgy, you address the issue, that way, she sees that you are actually a kind guy but at the same time, she cannot step all over you.

If you treat all the women the same, regardless of their looks or beauty and don't give "beautiful" women special treatments, then you will probably have a better game with them. But if you talk to a girl and indirectly beg her to stay with you, you can guess twice if that is attractive

Did you just use my name in a sentence without tagging me? -.-

 

No that was directed at @tweeby

 

I'm quite sure there is a book out there about escaping the friend zone. The basic idea of this is that you disassociate from the relationship you have with the girl and don't talk to her for a good while. Even if she messages or asks you to meet up etc... you say no and be abrupt over it. Then after a few months of silence you return but with a much more direct and hard approach. You effectively re-create yourself in her eyes and turn into a savage after you have neglected her for a handful of months.

I've no idea if it works as I don't really have friends who are girls... many good acquaintanceships but no strong friendships with women.

If you are attracted to someone. Be a killer from the off guys. Don't let it become friends as you'll almost always be the person she comes to when she is having problems with the guy she is fucking. You will never be the one doing the fucking.

 

I know it was directed to him lol but you used "skeptical" in your sentence which is my name..

 

I knew you got it, but if you want me to play straight, I will!