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Going into flatline after sex

Discussion in 'Rebooting - Porn Addiction Recovery' started by Gavalar09, Nov 12, 2021.

  1. Gavalar09

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    I seem to go into states of zero or low libido and crash.

    For instance, I've had sex about 4 times this week, but today my erection was weak and I came very quickly.

    Why am I flatlining after orgasm so much?

    Also, does anyone have any experience with Covid induced ED?
     
  2. Anonymous86

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    The states of zero libido/low libido crash after an orgasm (without sex though), has happened to me. You're not the only one. You may need more time abstaining from porn, dude.
     
  3. mentorr

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    @Gavalar09 I always take the time to read your posts and respond where I can, but can I politely advise against constructing posts around fictional topics such as ‘covid induced ED’ unless you have concrete evidence i.e. proven research that such a disorder exists.

    I totally get that you want to recover and find solutions to your symptoms. But a little bit of light research and some rational thought would tell you that such a disorder likely doesn’t (at least for now) exist. You risk opening a space that doesn’t need to be created for those that are yet to recover.

    Flatlining after orgasm means you have not recovered yet. The sooner you realise this, the easier your reboot will become.

    I don’t mean to be mean or come across insensitive, but there is a wealth of information under your threads from (in my opinion) some solid rebooters. Take the information you have and use it to understand what’s going on.
     
  4. Gavalar09

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    Always happens after I've had too many orgasms it seems. But I don't know.
     
  5. Gavalar09

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    Sorry to cause any upset.
    I've not been watching porn solidly and have been having sex and kissing to rewire.

    But it seems this no longer works as I'm getting complete ED at this point. I used to be able to get hard to my touch and thoughts but I no longer have any libido at all. It's like my dopamine has completely crashed at this point.

    I don't know what to do and I'm extremely scared. I've heard aspirin can act like ED pills so may try this. I'm just worried in not getting morning wood and my dopamine has flatlined.
     
  6. mentorr

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    No upset caused but I think you’re so focused on finding a solution that you don’t actually understand your own issue.

    You said “I’ve not been using Porn solidly” but what exactly does this mean? To overcome ED issues you need to abstain from PMO totally. Peaking at porn, fantasising or even touching yourself is likely causing flatline because you’re not fully recovered. Anything less and you are naturally going to come across problems. Kissing with sex (without orgasm) is fine and will aid recovery, but orgasm too regularly will likely a) throw you into flatline and b) slow your recovery.

    Finally, aspirin does not and probably never will fix ED. I am confident a large percentage of us would not be here if it did!
     
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  7. Gavalar09

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    I thought the point Was to have sex to rewire though and orgasm?

    I'm so confused
     
  8. mentorr

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    Basically a lot of people find that Orgasm slows down their reboot, so what they do is they avoid Orgasm when having sex. The problem is that not everybody can do that so many people either abstain until they are better or explain the situation to their other half. I know it can be confusing and complex but there are numerous stories of others experiencing what you are at the moment.
     
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  9. Gavalar09

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    I recovered from PIED though so I don't get why orgasm has set me back so much?
     
  10. Gavalar09

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    Like I recovered completely. I was able to sex sex multiple times a week without much issue. I've not watched porn on so long yet orgasms are setting me back. It hardly makes sense.
     
  11. mentorr

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    But once again what does this statement mean:

    Something isn’t adding up..
     
  12. Gavalar09

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    As in I used to watch porn daily. After about 125 days of a reboot I was able to have sex without drugs again. It worked this way for a little. Had no issues at all getting hard or with libido.

    Then, I started masturbation but with no orgasm or watching porn little by little, like once a week during lock down.

    Found my gf in February this year and in March having sex. Everything was absolutely fine downstairs. Been able to orgasm with no issues, no anxiety etc.

    I've watched little bits of porn during the relationship but never had flatlines, issues with erections during the relationship etc until last month. Everything went dead, numb, libido died.

    I've not had morning wood in years which is usually a physical symptom.

    Sometimes I can get rock hard with cialis but other times it's half and half. For instance, last Sunday, rock hard with cialis. The day after, only half mast.
     
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  13. mentorr

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    @Gavalar09 you cannot watch porn. Whether it’s for 5 minutes or 5 seconds watching odd bits here and there is simply reawakening the neural pathways in your brain. I know someone who watched porn for 9 months, and then when trying to stop had to undergo a full 18 month reboot.

    Was this sex with or without Cialis?
     
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  14. OhWhenThe

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    In my opinion, there are a number of factors at play which have caused your situation:

    1) You never fully recovered before getting into a relationship. How long of a streak were you on before meeting your gf?

    2) You went too fast, too soon. You may have felt like you were recovered when you started having sex again but you need to think of it like a bank account. When you had PIED your account was in debt, when things start to work again it doesn't mean your account is now full, it just means that you're barely above zero. Every time you then engage in sexual activity you're taking money out of your account and you were spending it at a quicker rate than what you were earning.

    3) You continued to watch small amounts of porn here and there during the relationship, you cannot watch porn in any form or any amount. Well you can, but it will come at the expense of your libido again.

    4) Dick pills are not your friend. You taking pills in order to perform is like an athlete taking pain-killing injections for an injury so they can compete. Yes it allows you to perform in that moment but it comes at a cost. You are forcing your body to do something it doesn't want, the athlete may be able to get through the game but his injury will still remain and is most likely being made worse as it's not being allowed to heal. Fortunately for the athlete he can rest up once the season has finished and recover then but there's no off-season in a relationship so what you are doing is not sustainable. A 28 year old should not be relying on pills for things to work.
     
    Last edited: Nov 14, 2021
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  16. Anonymous86

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    Can orgasm and ejaculation WITHOUT sex throw you into flatline as well? I think that's how I realized that I have an addiction...
     
  17. mentorr

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    It can yes. While recovering I have found that orgasms always send me back into flatline. I think it’s more about how long the flatline is though. Most forms of orgasm would send me into a flatline of around 2-3 months, while wet dreams would only set me back into flatline for 2-3 weeks.

    While my last orgasm was around 9 months ago, I’m pretty sure if I orgasmed today I would go straight back into flatline. I think as you recover the symptoms of the flatline gradually decrease. People have said that towards the end of recovery, the cost of orgasming during recovery becomes less and less. First the odd autoimmune symptoms disappear. Then the irritable mood swings. Then the depression and finally the low libido. So I think as you recover the physical, emotional and mental cost of orgasm decreases. It just takes time.

    How did you realise you had an addiction?
     
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  18. The jock

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    How long did that take you?
     
  19. Gavalar09

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    66 days until I could get hard to touch alone.

    Hard enough for penetration about 93 days in.

    Had mini flatlines after orgasm from sex about 120-160 days in.
     
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  20. Anonymous86

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    Why would you go back into orgasm, even if your orgasm was already 9 months ago? Is it because you need more time?

    I orgasmed/ejaculated to porn one day in 2016 and my dick shriveled up small, and my balls became less inflated. I lost sensation in my penis as well. I've been like this since 2016. It wasn't until later that year I found YBOP and everything added up.
     

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