Going without P vs. Without PM vs. Without PMO

Don't know about studies, but most people that MO do it to some form of fantasy - so you haven't really solved anything. The mind is limitless in what you can dream up to pleasure yourself.
I also understand from other people here that most of the people that don't fantasize during MO eventually find themselves drawn back to full-on PMO.

Now, consider this act of constant self-pleasuring, self-gratification - for doing absolutely nothing. You haven't earned anything. It makes you lazy. From my experience, it also makes you weak, similar to waking up from a wet dream.

Other people don't MO for religious reasons.

The last point about full PMO abstinence is that the less you play around with your body's chemicals, the quicker they'll rebalance themselves.

 

Try both complete abstinence vs rebooting with MO. ultimately porn is the villain here. that's what needs to go. whichever makes it easier to get rid of porn is what you should use. there is no right or wrong answer.

 

hey thanks for posting this. ime doing no pmo has worked wonders for my energy and clarity in life and mo in moderation like once a month doesn't help at all. the p thing is very tricky and tends to creep into my life if i use mo. over several years now ive been trying to stop and still havent fully gotten away or even to 90 days free of pmo. i think p is the first thing to remove from life. next start working to control o and then realize m itself is not a productive activity. easier said than done i know but iv had some success this way.
everyone is different so start with what will work best for u and then escalate to find what works better.
personally im not seeking o but at this point its been years since sex and id like to find a decent partner.
hope this helps, much love

 

For me, no PMO is the only way.
I don't feel clean if i indulge in any aspect of my addiction. The more i feed it the stronger it gets.

 

Good name! I love it!

 

From my own experience, M is as destructive as P, if not more. I never really watched P so my addiction was all about M and it really made me miserable. I personally believe you have to abstain from PMO to get all the benefits of nofap.

 

Just try no PMO and no PM yourself.

You will feel the difference. If not, then fine. Just stay with what is best for you.

 

Good question! My thoughts on this are as follows:

Going hard mode i.e. No PMO is best if you are now trying to get past the habit. So you are basically far down the PMO rabbit hole. You are having all the negative effects and you need to turn this around. I would recommend going this route for about 3 to 6 months. Because at this stage you really need to get rebalanced. In during this stage any sexual experience you have tends to be tainted by porn. E.g. You find you self looking at the penetration instead of being fully present in the moment. Instead of having a sensual and sexual experience. Kissing, touching , holding etc. You are watching your penis go in and out of the vagina. You are basically pornifying sex.

Once you have gotten that reboot as we call it I believe sex with a real person is the next step. You need to learn how to be with someone again. Get past you anxiety and just enjoy actual sex. The kissing, hugging, touching, intercourse all goes together. In my opinion, this is the ideal scenario moving forward. Save your sexual energy for your partner.

Watching porn is a no no. No good comes from this. It is fake, you are living a fake sexual experience.

PM may be worst than PMO in my opinion. If you are just sitting there edging and being overstimulated you are just cooking your Brain in my opinion. Normally with PM persons tend to watch for a longer periods and so stay on that high even longer.

MO is not totally bad but they are some things you need to consider. If you are like me, MO leads you back to PMO. Eventually you get bored with MO and want some external stimulation. I am not the fantasy type so I end up looking for an IG Model, a twerk video and this behavior only escalates until I am back at Hardcore PMO.

Secondly I find MO can desensitize your penis to the feel of an actual Vagina. Your hand with lotion or oil can never feel the same as a Vagina unless you have the most baby soft hands ever lol.

With that said, if you are the type that MO does not lead you back to full PMO then this would be okay as long as it is not excessive. You do not want to be MOing every single day, multiple times a day. That would most likely constitute a sexual addiction still.

For me I try to stick to an O with a partner. This is the best in my experience.

For context I recently reset after going 196 days free. I have my own challenge, which is when I do become sexually active with a partner again I find I start to want more sexual stimulation and can start to seek out porn again.