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Good sex life is not about sex

Discussion in 'Self Improvement' started by need4realchg, Sep 1, 2019.

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  1. I think we (guys) have been sold the argument that to improve sex life we need to have more sex, deeper, harder, more creative, longer, sex. Larger penile size, longer erections, tuff as a brick erections.

    We focus on techniques, positions and outfits; vacations, getaways , and afrodisiacs.

    I have a theory that seems to be happening with me— curious if this awakening is happening with others. I feel a “re-discovery” happening as I feel more and more elements that were previously walled off, hardened, or frozen due to pmo and sex addiction thaw out and awaken. These parts of my brain seem to be coming “online” and staying connected. It points to more gray matter , more of a dual hemisphere brain experience.

    1. Conscience (belief system)
    2. Relationships
    3. Emotions

    1. Thinking clearly to identify lying, denial, and manipulation as base forms of living, incomplete. Develop a thirst and love for the truth. Your yes is yes. Your no is no. I feel this leads to a boundary phase (number 2).

    2. With clear thinking comes clear relationships. Not lopsided, esteem-eating monsters, or parasitic lingering relationships— at this stage you will feel the need to disengage toxic friends and elements that lead back down pmo path or other unhealthy behaviors. Now you can be held accountable. Relational maturity. Now you have boundaries for you, you aren’t “fence stealing”. (meaning no longer derive you personal boundaries by your neighbor’s fence)—- you now essentially have your own. So this leads to healthy emotional interactions. Phase 3.

    3. Emotional perceptiveness. Empathy starts to come back. What were lost or paralyzing feelings return. Softness, tenderness, even anger in my case. I feel like a blind guy (re)discovering colors as bright hues—-for my nofap friends who are farther along in the restoration—I see how post pmo conversations can be more difficult. Now we are more emotionally vulnerable — and that can make conversing more difficult ; we are completely clueless at times on how to manage these new emotions. This is the return to being vulnerable. Feels scary but it’s healthy. Now comes the good stuff.

    Good Sex requires vulnerability, honesty and transparency.

    Ever tried to have sex while hiding a secret? Many secrets?

    Of course many addicts have.

    Let’s ask women what that feels like ? Inside of a relationship it’s painfully obvious.

    A deep vulnerability leads to earth-shaking sex. Not comparable to a sweaty boot-knocking session that we have call seen a million times depicted in movies and porn, but in a emotional , soul-filling connected- way.

    Think about pied for a second: Physical Erections require mental pathways to be clear —

    1). refraining from pmo tidies the mental clutter and prevents mental obstacles. Guys report faster erections because they are more mentally agile and sensitive.

    2) a mature bonding-process with the individual gives healthy lines to respect each other during emotional and physical sex

    3) an emotional connection shared vulnerabilities—- sex now is real, not auto-tuned, airbrushed, and artificially enhanced.

    The heart, mind and sexual organs now are aligned.

    If one is out of alignment, you can be sure the male-thermometer will reflect this.
     
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  2. greenishmoon

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  3. Tibo87

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    Truth.

    @need4realchg
    Did you come across tantric sex, and especially making love in Yab Yum position? It is a very powerful and beautiful practice for love making.
     
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  4. Yes —- I have done some low-level fly overs on this but I have not ever tried to execute it yet. Very limited with true tantra. Please share your ideas.
     
  5. That's the same mindset about sex that I discovered. But I must be honest - It is hard for me to follow that mindset and not fall back in the 'I want to bang as much as possible'.

    How did you guys achieved this mindset and are you ever having problems with 'relapsing' (in the mindset)?
     
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  6. Great question.

    What I aim for is to be more conscientious so that I CHOOSE better.

    I have made no relapsing part of my goal. I haven’t given in to the peer pressure to lump everything into a “super-deity monk mode” abstention from everything starting tomorrow plan. That is unrealistic for anything I do in life, I don’t know about you?

    It’s like weight training to me. My sex-abstention goals are not perfection starting tomorrow.

    My literal goal is (7 days without prostitutes).

    I am taking this slow by some people’s metrics but I’m growing as fast as an oak tree climbs as high as the sky.
     
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  7. I think have made several excellent points with your post. Sex is about a connection between the two participants. It is about an emotional bond. Sex is part physical and part emotional - both are important aspect of a positive experience. PMO interferes wit teh emotional connection. I know that that has been true in my marriage.

    I really enjoyed reading your post - so many of us focus on the physical exclusively.
     
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  8. I hear you man! I feel so aswell, I need small steps that gradually increase. I tried to do a 90days challenge, or No PMO forever - what they all had in common ist that I did well for some time and then relapsed heavily.

    I need something that builds it up slow, that allows me to relapse sometimes aswell. If I do 30days with NoFap and then relapse I might relapse so heavily that it was all for nothing or completely stop my NoFap path for a period of time. But if I learn how to deal with resets now, the habit that will be developed will be far stronger than otherwise. Especially when I still increase the goals.

    On another note, did you happen to have that monk from Kung Fu Panda as a profile pic? Your name sounds familiar, I think we both followed a thread from an (I think) Indian guy who tried to work 12hours a day minimum. Do you know what happened to him?
     
  9. Tibo87

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    Well it echoes a lot of your ideas and what others are saying on this thread.

    Let me say something first. I will always respect someone that tells me ''I don't like sex and I want to be a monk / priest for the rest of my life''. If this is your choice and you are happy with it, then you have all my support.

    The issue with most of the people here is that they are born in a very sexual environment (media, porn, advertisement etc), and they still have sexual needs and desires. Most of the monks in Asia or ''healthy priest'' are born and have been educated that way since young age.

    So rather than ''fighting'' to repress sexual needs, and making yourself unhappy (by falling into addiction or by beating yourself up because you don't stick to it), it would be more helpful to embrace your needs, to be honest with yourself, and to express them in a blossoming way.

    Tantra is all about recognize the Divine in everything around us and in ourself. Also, the sexual part of Tantra is to acknowledge that sex is Life, we all come from sex, and sex takes us to a place of absolute present (when you have an orgasm, nothing else matter, the world can collapse you wouldn't even realize it).
    It is also all about respecting the other's consent and boundaries, and to create a ritual around sex where it will be worshiped as sacred.

    By taking the time to connect with your partner, by looking into eachother's eyes (the door for the soul according to Tantra) and by matching your breathings, you take the time to create a space where sex will be respected and enjoyed.

    There is a lot of different practice, and I invite you to have a look as well in the Puja ceremonials (I have done it myself and it is very powerful).
     
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  10. greenishmoon

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    What do you think would be a "blossoming" approach on expressing our sexuality in modern society?

    I agree with your points. I though feel that the way we express ourselves in that regard are very narrow, and that we need other ways to let this energy go, or else we get trapped, as you said, either in sex adiction or compulsive masturbatory habits.
     
  11. Yes. I started with master shifu!

    I graduated to recognizing so much of my troubles are due to myself. I’m done blaming others and my past for me and my future.

    You are talking about @delhiboy .

    I have fallen off the daily work updates. I need to get back to that.

    Time mgmt, anxiety and procrastination all seem to stem from similar misbeliefs.
     
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  12. Tibo87

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    This is a very subjective question.
    Everybody need to find their way in their sexuality first, and then be proud of it to express it to others.

    I often say to my clients that sex is and should be like talking about our food habits. Everybody is doing it, everybody is doing it differently, and a lot of people are ashamed on how they do it.

    But if you talk about what you like to someone, and you find out that this someone like the same things, you will share it together to make it even more pleasant.

    I also think that the more people will talk about it openly during normal conversation, the more we will break taboos and we won't have teens that are lost in what to do (this is even more true for consent and how to share pleasure).
     
  13. I still work more than 10 hours every day man. just that I am short of time these days not updating threads. my streak is going fantastic and I am working hard as ever. I still have flatline bouts when I cant accomplish anything much but those depression days are reducing.
     
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  14. Wow man, nice to hear from you! Congratulation on your streak and Work flow, Good luck to you!
     
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  15. started that productivity thread all over again brother. thanks for reminding.
     
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  16. Di.Do.555

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    Cupid's poisoned arrow by Marnia Robinson addresses the issue very well.

    Intimacy is better than sex. Mindfulness is the key to being fulfilled on all levels.
     
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