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Got lost somewhere along the way

Discussion in 'Rebooting in a Relationship' started by Francymac, Oct 14, 2015.

  1. Francymac

    Francymac Fapstronaut

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    So recently my girlfriend and I have been having some issues! I'm super confused right now and would appreciate any advice!

    To give you a bit of background, we have been together nearly 4 years and are very close, like best friends! But recently we emigrated away from home together and have been living together nearly 5 months. We have always had a very loving relationship but have had some issues as well. She was there for me when I first discovered my addiction and every time I was depressed and even when I was in rehab for porn addiction.

    Our sex life is something that I get frustrated with. I guess because of porn I've come to have certain expectations as regards sex. We do have a very loving sexual relationship but have had issues mainly to do with me wanting more and this turns her off I feel. Which makes it harder for us to have a healthy sexual relationship. I feel like it is not as fulfilling as it could be and I crave more diversity in our sexual relationship. I have always been a very sexual person, even whilst I was discovering or before I discovered PMO I had a very active imagination. It is a huge part of my life I feel and I guess it's important for me to not view P or to PMO obviously as I am recovering from Porn Addiction but there needs to be a balance also.

    The way I'm feeling is having the following effect on me:
    -I feel less enthusiastic about our relationship.
    -it's like I'm trying to convince myself I still love her
    -I feel like part of the spark is gone
    -I constantly doubt myself because I don't know if it's the porn talking as I have had a few close shaves recently and a lifetime before that of PMO.
    -Seeing hot girls everywhere in this city, has me objectifying as well which is something I need to work on and could be part of why I feel I'm missing out.
    -Maybe even though I haven't PMO'd for nearly 100 days, the times I have come close, or viewed P/P subs have been like relapses for me and set me back.

    Anyone else have similar experience or any advice? Thank you Fapstronauts! It feels good to be part of a community like this. I would never have been able to say this out loud to her. I'm hoping to have a good chat with her soon once I clear my head a bit and figure shit out.

    Also I'll add that I hadn't smoked weed in 2 years or so as I gave up smoking it when I first quit PMO and didn't go back to it until this summer. I have smoked on a few occasions and maybe it has a part to play too but I don't know. Apologies for the length of the post.
     
  2. Slavic

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    Francymac, brother

    I am in a relationship for a fourth year now. 22 and she's 21. How old are you?
    Sadly I can relate to your experience. You know, I won't write a lot because firstly, I haven't in English for a long time and it is awkward :p and secondly, the text below is a great answer.
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    In order to take care of my woman I decided that even though I'm PMO addict and ready to start a journey that is my life goal and an issue of high importance, I don't want it to ruin our evening and have a stronger impact that it should have. In past it happened many times, that she was very happy to see me, but I, on the contrary, lost somewhere in my problems (not only PMO). That sort of behavior can really do a lot of damage to our love-ones. Surely u know that.

    After 10 days of not PMO, I did it and felt sorry for myself. The next day she was supposed to visit me, a supper, film, sleep-over (we don't live together, but study in one city) and to sum up - a great start of weekend together. What could I do? Two options - blame myself, jump into bad mood again and destroy her happiness or just stay away from my problem, rationalize it - I DID FAIL, BUT IM STILL WORKING ON IT. Surprisingly, for the first time in A LONG time, I chose the second alternative and Francymac, that was the best decision.
    We had a wonderful night, I cut off ANY of my expectations towards her and ME and that was real love-making. Not only in sexual view, but as if we were falling in love this night. Therefore I would recommend you stop making that relation GF <-> PMO over and over again because that is just another case, as f.e. a man trying to loose the burden of how his job- involvement affects his marriage all the time, he just makes it worse, am I right, a closed circle? Do you agree, that by focusing too much on PMO issue we can "artifically" make it even bigger?

    On the other hand, more pragmatically, maybe the problem is you didn't have your "home" experiences before? I'm the last to judge but maybe you have to work more on routine. When was the last time you ate something out? Cinema, a long walk?

    Good luck brother, waiting for your reply
     
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  3. Francymac

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    Hey Slavic, thanks for the reply.

    I am 24 and she is 22. We are 4 years together in December. I went for a long walk and have cleared my head of the cobwebs and was mainly thinking back over the time we have been together, me & her and I have to say it helped a lot to put things in perspective.

    I understand entirely what you are saying in your reply. I might be getting too lost in my PMO problem and not giving enough attention or listening well enough to her. Also because she has been so supportive it must take a toll on her too.

    I guess that now we are living together things are slightly different. Before when we were back home and not living together we used to do things like you mentioned at the end of your comment like walks and cinema, maybe we need to do that more and make more memories together. It's something we were really good at at the start, doing a lot of things, fun things, together.

    I'm concentrating too hard on the sex side of things and obsessing over that side because I feel I have lost something (PMO) and need to make up for it somewhere else. I can't remember the last time I just allowed our love-making to happen spontaneously without me forcing it. It's something I need to work on but for now I have to stop blaming her and take it easy on myself a little bit too. I'm so lucky to have someone like her and I need to stop and appreciate her now, before it's too late.

    How long have you been abstaining from PMO? Also does your GF know about it too?
     
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  4. Slavic

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    I started realizing that PMO could be an addiction that spreads on various aspects of my life about two months ago. Since then I gave it A LOT of thinking, emphasizing the PMO - relationship correlation. My personal best since then were 10 days mentioned above. Right now I am focusing on my mindset and setting apart activities and behavioral patterns that lead to my sin. I've started a journal today (log).

    Sincerely, I don't know whether I don't have the courage to tell her about all of this PMO problem or just that won't really help me/us. Maybe the thing needed to be fixed is in me, for as far as remember I used to deal with my problems alone? But that's too deep and complicated.
    You know, I just want to work on it hard and make her happy without her knowing what's the source. In addition it is a huge motivation for me recalling how she was surprised and joyful when I gave her a little present and bought Toscanian Wine after my 10 days of no-PMO... there are moments, for sure, worth fighting for.

    Also, Francymac, I look up to your result presented under your post. Referring to all of that NoFap hard work. You have a marvellous result there. Keep it up!

    What about the initiative between you and your GF? Is someone "older", "sleepier" or "lazier" than the other? For example I noticed how after time I became lazy and rejected many new ways of spending time together she proposed. I'm still trying to find a reason but the fact is for a couple of months I haven't said no. :)

    Have to admit personally it is really encouraging, in its distorted way given the site and context, finding men who deal with similar problems, that I thought only applied to me.
     
  5. Francymac

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    This site has helped me a lot and I envisage it becoming more and more populated as time goes by. We are the brave ones, the warriors who are ready to face our demons and no longer use PMO as a crutch like a child has a blanket.

    On another note, near to 2 and a half years ago I finally told my girlfriend about my porn addiction and I was terrified and I mean really afraid she would judge me and laugh or worse be really disgusted and leave me there and then. But she surprised me by being so accepting and by being there for me and it allowed me to take up the courage and put myself into an educational rehab programme for generalized addiction (because in my home country there is still no porn addiction rehab). I was lucky that my health Insurance paid for it. :p

    It was a huge moment for us and was the time when I decided that this girl was the one for me. She is beautiful and courageous and has always treated me normally when I have felt so abnormal. One of the things I was taught in the centre for rehab was that communication is key. I feel like I should note that it did take me a while to pick up the courage and tell her. I don't know whether it's advisable to tell your GF or not but if she is the one you want to be with then for a long time and you don't see yourself with anyone else then should she not know? :confused:

    just a thought!
     
  6. Slavic

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    Good for you, really, I am glad you took a problem seriously and fought it via different means like rehab. You must love each other pretty much. However, you must really feel like a di_k comparing what you've written in first post and the fifth, right? Sexual demands, overdrawn vision of sex-life and then a woman who loves you and accepts you wholehartedly. That's a proof of how porn can destroy us really. May I ask you how does it work practically? I mean does she ask you whether you PMOd or I don't know, you are emotionally mature enough to speak about it on a daily basis? Did she say that somehow her femininity was touched?

    But to the point - I'm happy you're working it out together.

    Personally, I won't do this right now, brother. We're currently under a great stress caused by different issues and our perception of future together is somehow drifting away. I don't want to add any of bad emotions to this. But anyway thank you for that advice, cause that's the first time I seriously thought about it. ;)
     
  7. Francymac

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    No worries brother!

    That's exactly it man, it makes me feel like such a dick!! But it's only when I'm in relapse mode that I have thinking like this, as regards sex. Even looking back on my first post I know that when I was talking about my expectations of sex I was acting out in a big way.

    It works in the sense that I keep her informed of how I am doing and she is involved in a big way. For me this is the same with every addiction. Communication is so key. As long as I communicate with her it helps the both of us lead normal lives and I'm not constantly disappointing her with relapse. The other thing is that when I am having an emotional relapse which is one of the stages of relapse I am a total asshole which doesn't help our relationship at all.

    Best of luck Slavic! This journey is a tough one. Keep posting! ;)
     

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