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Grasping for control

Discussion in 'Rebooting - Porn Addiction Recovery' started by raging_manatee, Oct 1, 2015.

  1. raging_manatee

    raging_manatee Fapstronaut

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    PMO has done a number on my brain. I notice it every day. As I get closer to my highest streak, I need to reflect, reach out, and get some things off my chest.

    For those that hate long posts, please hit the back button. This could be a while.

    I'm alone at home all day almost every day. Even when I turn off all the screens (computer, mobile, tv, etc) my mind still almost exclusively thinks about sex. While I'm working, cooking, cleaning, exercising, etc. How can I clear my mind and get back on a normal thought process?

    I feel shameful for my thoughts, desperately trying to redirect my brain to a state of purity. I try reading books, watching shows, playing games. But my imagination runs wild and I can't pay attention to the story lines, only the shape of the character's bodies, what would they look like naked, etc. It's numbing.

    Since I started NoFap, I think it's gotten worse. Like telling a kid they can't have ice cream, then that's all they really want (regardless of if they wanted it in the first place). I'm on day 8 with a record of 12 days, so I haven't experienced the full reboot yet. All I'm riding on is that these thoughts that are consuming my head will dissipate in time.

    Why is it so easy to M? It's like a curse. With alcohol, smoking, drugs, and even food addictions you have to at least leave the house to get it. P and M are right there all the time. So easy to access. In the living room, bedroom, bathroom, (in my case) home office, etc. "Getting the fix" is always with us. It's as easy as unbuttoning the pants. Willpower is the only thing standing between me and relapse. The problem is my f-ed up brain knows exactly how to beat Willpower into the ground and laugh it off all the way to the bank.

    If only I could stop these thoughts. The teasing, satanic, unrealistic thoughts. So much P in the last few years has flooded my brain with images, clips, and a horrible objectification of every female alive.

    It's getting borderline disturbing. My wife and I had plans to O together tonight, but she came home with a fever and cough. My first reaction was almost angry. Instead of the "how can I take care of her, comfort her, and help her with her illness?" my first thoughts spiraled off of "Crap, why tonight? I waited so long, worked so hard. She had to choose this day to be sick." I was shocked by my own selfishness, but couldn't stop the thoughts.

    Alright, I'm tired of typing. Any help/thoughts/advice about ways to get my thoughts under control?
     
  2. nfprogress

    nfprogress Fapstronaut

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    When some of us reboot, we don't think much about porn and there isn't much of a craving. This gives the brain the time it needs to forget and establish very different habits. The way you are running right now, your mind may not even know it is rebooting (with constant thoughts of sex and women). Your environment is very much working against you currently and you might consider modifying it to where it encourages you to take very different actions. A little bit of entertainment is a good thing, but it seems like most of what you list are simply ways to pass the time. I think you could come up with projects and life goals that are far more enriching, challenging and complex. There are tons of businesses out there in the world doing very interesting things to help the world move forward. When you have thought of what you want to do, start building the habit. When you think about nudity/porn/etc, slowly turn your attention from that to your more important life goals. It helps to pick something or a few things that you have a great deal of motivation to pursue.

    Like other posters have said, sometimes it helps to just look in the mirror and say, 'NO MORE'. This is working for me to help beat a binging habit that I have now. Counters can provide motivation, but if you decide never again to porn, you can starting putting things like that out of your mind. After all you are never going to do it again, so what point do you have in thinking about it all the time? I think you might also benefit from a bit of a libido reduction or flatline. Be happy if/when that hits. When I am not in your shoes, this is easy for me to say, but it might be a whole different ballgame inside your head with such a powerful libido (mine is very high, but still not completely overwhelming).
     
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  3. raging_manatee

    raging_manatee Fapstronaut

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    I like that thought process. I have projects and things I CAN do, some benefit career, some benefit personal life, etc. My issue is coming from switching my brain to WANT to do those things. Right now most of my trigger reducers involve easy-to-do things that I can quickly turn to instead of watching P. They may not be the most productive for the benefit of mankind, but its easier to say Yes to reading a book or playing a casual game then it is to do chores or work.
     
  4. nfprogress

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    Have you tried the meditation route as an alternative to turning to an easier distraction? I have often turned to easier distractions (in my case often food or exercise), but in the end constant context switching didn't really leave me feeling in control of myself and my life. I should be able to center myself instead and refocus my energy. I look at it and say, I am not the type of man to be guided from activity to activity by my emotions or by what seems easy to me. I am definitely not going to let my entire life be driven by pixels. I am going to be more self directed instead.

    For me, the WANT side of it is a deep passion for learning. I combine my interests with strong life goals and the motivation is there (if it isn't I am going about it wrong plain and simple). I definitely like the way you have been able to avoid critical triggers and have a fallback. However, you may be ready to take that next step in a few days time (or now). At some point, you have to make a change where you are not fighting against yourself so much of the time. If you truly forget about porn and sexuality for a bit, you might be surprised what comes to mind. It helps to have some sort of vehicle to make that smooth transition.

    In my case, I had a bit of struggle with my own wants lately. For a long time (maybe years), I have wanted to learn how to program in an imperative language. I knew that I'd need to be able to read other people's code, practice by doing, read books/learn theory, unit test, etc, but the pieces didn't really fall into place until nofap hit. I dug deep and discovered what I really liked to do and found a path that is the right fit for me (I chose doing programming challenges online). I had to realize what parts of it I was NOT interested in that were holding me back (I just don't have the drive to jump into open source projects and build a 'portfolio' of crap, seems too much like work to me; reading books also has some limitations and is not always interesting, good supplemental material but not the meat of it). But if I combined things I love (challenge of mathematics, computer science, problem solving, logic) that 'required' me to program in order to answer the 'fun' puzzles, then I am learning in a powerful way. My motivation is there and the side effect of learning imperative programming helps me in my day to day career (so it fits in the bigger picture).

    That is an example of how you can turn one 'want' into another and shift your life focus for the better. Your motivation can very much do a 180 and you aren't at bad point for that to start happening now.
     
  5. raging_manatee

    raging_manatee Fapstronaut

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    I'm a programmer as well. I focus on building websites. I have a portfolio going, and on-paper, a good start to a career. I know what you mean by portfolios and stuff seeming like too much work, because at least for me, it is work. It's how I make my living.

    That's why I've turned to other things to chew up free time. I haven't tried the meditation route yet, but it's something I've thought about, and will definitely look more into.

    Anyway, thanks for your posts. It's helped me get in a better mindset, at least temporarily. If you need help with coding, let me know. It's a passion of mine, and I'd be happy to do what I can. It could be a good way to keep my mind from wandering too.
     
  6. Knight Solaire

    Knight Solaire Fapstronaut

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    Meditation and mindfulness are always a good route. Finding something you enjoy (drawing, tv, exercise, etc.) is what will help the most. "Filling the void" as they call it. Boredom is your worse enemy here. I draw and read to fill my void. It works so well. I also use mindfulness and meditation.

    It gets easier, you just have to stick with it bub. This shit is hard to get through, but if you can reach that hill (the first month) things get progressively better. Easier. I promise, just stick with it. Concentrate on your life and your family. Force yourself to understand that you want to do this to become better.

    A better you.
     
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  7. Thechosenone

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    I feel that too many instant gratifications are available for you - you're not allowing me yourself to get bored, I'm the same.

    I always pick up my phone etc watch TV. I've been stressing about making myself do things a lot and can't seem to shake off the feet that are on my head so it feels.

    Itll take time to remove them all, no psubs or digital stuff is a good way to go. Sometimes I feel that if I'm overdoing these changes or if I should go down proper full life control - whether I'm stressing myself out too much.

    Find a balance between productivity and rest, let your rest be in nature for example
     

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