im with meloncolyweigthlifter. what are you talking about dude? this is nofap. not masturbate alone to thoughts. not justify different forms of fap without porn. its NoFap. your justifying your addiction. people do this all the time on here and it is really annoying... you know what you are doing is cheating. if you dont want to admit your a masturbating addict then why are you even on here?