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Healthy masturbation?

Discussion in 'Rebooting - Porn Addiction Recovery' started by SiuLong, Mar 1, 2016.

  1. SiuLong

    SiuLong Fapstronaut

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    I'm posting some personal reflections from my journal here, but I love to be disagreed with. So please, let me know if you think differently :)

    I have been reading a little about porn addiction and masturbation on yourbrainonporn.com.
    I might be wrong, but it appears to me that MOing (not even to P) isn't a healthy or natural thing to do. The way I see it now, it is more like an unnatural way to cope with the stress of an unnatural lifestyle (isolation, inactivity...).
    Moreover it puts me in front of a moral dilemma. What am I even supposed to masturbate to ?
    Porn? It's both overstimulation and an unethical industry for women.
    MOing to girls I know? Gross... and disrespectful in my opinion. I couldn't look somebody in the face and go "I wanked over you, I hope you're cool with that".
    MOing to "nothing"? Like, without fantasizing and staying focused on your own body, or maybe to experience you've already had? Jeez, man... it's getting complicated. Not really worth the effort.

    What do you think? Is there such think as "healthy masturbation"? Or is the behavior wrong in itself?
     
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  2. NoBrainer

    NoBrainer Distinguished Fapstronaut

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    In a nutshell, yes I believe there should be such a thing as healthy masturbation, and the majority of people (in western cultures anyway) who do not have a problem with porn/ masturbation/ sex etc will do so in a healthy and responsible manner.

    It is definitely difficult for those who are on this site however (to masturbate responsibly), because it is difficult for us to engage in a behavior in moderation that we have had a problem or associated problem with in the past. I envy those people who can masturbate as they wish without associating it to past behaviors. I have found that if I masturbate, it can much more easily lead to a porn relapse for me. However, I guess one of my goals is to get to a point where I can masturbate 'responsibly'. If you're just starting out (or haven't done a significant period of abstinence yet, I'd say definitely stay clear of masturbation. It's the fastest way to reboot anyway.

    Well it's interesting. Some girls find it erotic and some girls find it disgusting, and others couldn't really care either way. It depends on their personality, and your own personality whether you decide to do it or not. Those who do support healthy masturbation practices suggest that it should be done without fantasy and relying on only the physical pleasurable sensations, but in the end it's really up to you. Find what works for you.
     
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  3. Kennen

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    As a biologist, I believe MO is normal.

    It was regarded as a perversion, but not anymore.
     
  4. Rav70

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    It is a perversion when you do it 5+ times a day.
    I think its fine in moderation. But everyday? No, not good. Why? You can become accustomed to getting off that way and have difficulty with an actual person.
     
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  5. DireMerl

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    I would agree. Its a perversion of you're watching young women being coerced into degrading situations, doing it with random people via webcam or paying someone else to do it. Its also pretty disgusting to do it at work, in the toilets, at your in-laws or in bed next to your partner. There's nothing wrong with an occaisional 'private party' but realistically, if you're in a relationship you shouldn't need that to feel intimacy. I understand if your partner is unable or unwilling to have intimacy, but then why not spend your efforts on trying to work through that together as a couple?

    If you're single, I suppose the occasional m would be ok. But honestly, it's not going to fall off if you don't use it for a while. Plenty of people do just fine without it.
     
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  6. SiuLong

    SiuLong Fapstronaut

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    I'll follow that advice, I was mostly wondering about what might happen after my reboot.
    I like the term "responsible", it sums it all up. I guess finding a way to do so is a challenge in itself.

    The most important to me is getting rid of the feeling I have a "dirty little secret". There's nothing wrong about self-pleasure in my opinion. I just don't want to be ashamed of what I do or think to get that pleasure.
    Also if MOing takes too much time and happens, at the cost of other aspects of my life going astray (relationships, punctuality...), I tend to think I'm doing it wrong.
     
  7. Hellboy123

    Hellboy123 Fapstronaut

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    I've known around 3 or 4 friends in my life who claimed to never really look at porn. I believe them. There was always a correlation between these people and the amount of girls they'd be successful with. They were always fine and confident by themselves, never needed validation.

    These things are connected. If some people can do it, then so can you. Once you get more comfortable around other people, and find a social group that you enjoy being involved in, you will be satisfied in some areas of your life, and more fulfilled.

    I don't think you should think about it being healthy at this point. If you came to NoFap to reach a goal and for support, then you should take the high road. Certain things affect certain people in different ways, that's just the way it is.
     
  8. scote73

    scote73 Fapstronaut

    I've heard that, after a while, you *could* masturbate successfully to nothing but the pure stimulation. I have no experience with this, however.
     

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