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Helping someone quit smoking

Discussion in 'Self Improvement' started by WhoCares101, Sep 21, 2018.

  1. WhoCares101

    WhoCares101 Fapstronaut

    Hello. So about 4 months ago my girlfriend quit smoking, it was hard, she had a tough few weeks, smoked a few times, but she kept getting better in between slip ups. She has compared her failures with smoking to my success getting over porn, which I keep telling her is different and when she slips she is really down on herself. When we started dating it did not bother me much that she smoked but now with her being clean for about 4 months I have known her more as a nonsmoker than a smoker so I have gotten used to that more.

    Last week she came home smelling like a chimney and it grossed me out kinda and told her to shower. I asked her what happened and she says someone at work offered her a cigarette and she smoked. Okay, sigh, fine. Then last night she asked where her phone was and I said in your jacket, I went to get her phone and she jumped at me saying she would get her phone, but I had her jacket in hand just enough to feel a pack of cigarettes. I did not react off hand, just went to take a shower, calm down and about a half hour later asked her. She said yep, there was a pack in her jacket that she had bought a week ago. I can handle slip ups, but lying about last week and a couple of times between then is bothering me. I dont like being lied to and I have never lied to her(mostly because I honestly dont lie ever, which people dont believe until they get to know me and realize, shit, he dont lie).

    This slip up has pissed me off and I am not sure what to do. I told her about a slip up I had last week finding some porn, I was honest, hated myself and told her why I lingered so long before pulling myself back. Now I find she has been hiding cigarettes for a week I am not sure what to do. Should I be pissed? Should I continue to be understanding and supportive or should I get mad and be pissed this time? How can I help her better if she just tossed away 4 months of good progress and lied about to not only me but a lot of other people as well?

    Any help, advice or personal experiences would be awesome. Thank you.
     
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  2. davem7

    davem7 Fapstronaut

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    great story , motivate .d for quite smoking I have never smoke
     
  3. GratifiedSlave

    GratifiedSlave Fapstronaut

    I've pretty similar case with me and I was very furious at the end which caused distance in the relationship. I don't know how a person should really react to this case
     
  4. Ask her why she couldn't admit it to you.
     
  5. I would say dedicate a time to discuss it, be really calm and ask questions and listen to answers, like, are you stressed at all? Do you still want to quit? Why do you feel you keep slipping up? Would you like help and advice?
     
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  6. hep her by sharing this method with her and don't judge her. It's just going to push her away. She didn't tell you because she felt ashamed. Rather encourage her to be honest and transparent with you than be there to judge her. You are both trying to quit things that are very difficult to quit.

    I smoke for 11 years and for half that time I tried to quit, wanted to quit, but just couldn't. It is very very difficult. I eventually quit cigarettes and now I'm 7 years clean but I recently got stuck in smoking shisha (hookah) and vaping. I'm now trying to quit that. My girlfriend has been very supportive and after uncountable relapses I am finally 19 days clean today and I think I'm going to push through this time. Her just being there to support me rather than making me feel bad when I relapse has finally led to my breakthrough and it gave me the room to quit for me and not for her. When we want to put something that's holding us back we must do it for ourselves, not our partners. We must own the liberation process and sometimes this can take time and patience in the face of much failure that makes the task seem almost impossible.

    A great resource is Allen Carr's Easy Way to Stop Smoking, it helped me a whole lot:
    https://www.theeasywaytostopsmoking.com/
     
  7. WhoCares101

    WhoCares101 Fapstronaut

    When I asked her about it, her going response about why she hid it was that she did not want to disappoint me again. I guess I'm a tough person to disappoint or something, I have always been supportive when she slipped up, never got mad or upset. So I'm not sure. When she slips up I dont treat her like a kid, I tell her I'm not taking the cigarettes from her but she has to make the choice to give them to me or toss them. I gave her the same option this time and as far as I know she has not tossed them and she did not give them to me, so I am a little irked about that.

    We have both been stressed lately, for the first time in a long time she is doing a job she hates and it's getting to her. Meanwhile I have been doing a job I hate for 13 years so I am maybe less sympathetic about her job situation because she can do anything she wants in her field she loves while I can only do this one thing that I hate with a damn passion and since starting nofap I have hated it all the more.

    I need to ask her again. At first the smell of smoke on her did not bug me but now, since she has stopped, I can't stand the smell, it reminds me too much of work since everyone except me smokes at my job.
     
  8. Starke

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    She won't quit if isn't out of her own volition, there's nothing you can do except make it worse.
    Just make sure she knows what will happen to her if she continues: lung cancer, fucked up teeth, etcetcetcetc.
    And continue with your life, i would even consider ditching her if it bothers you that badly.

    I quit smoking a few months ago, i smoked for four years and used to smoke around a pack a day, i just thought-out my reasons, made my research, quit cold turkey and never looked back.

    It wasn't easy but compared with quitting PMO it was a piece of cake, the worst of it all were the first two days, by week two i was feeling normal again, although to this day i still have urges but they're easy to resist.
     
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  9. WhoCares101

    WhoCares101 Fapstronaut

    Well good job quitting my friend I wish you continued luck with the smoking and PMO.

    Well "ditching her" is not an option, we are both in things for the long haul. And if I were to break up with her i would be breaking up with her two kids as well, both of whom i love just as much as her so extra heartbreak as well.

    Quiting was not even my idea 4 months ago, she made the choice to quit and I was in total agreement and support. She works in the medical field and knows all the bad things that happen and them some. I am more worried about the impact now it could have on her daughter's, I did not like she smoked in front of them and now she hiding it which leaves an impression on the girls. It's also something that is forcing her to deal with other demons I think, its forcing her to grow up and be an adult which to a certain extent even as a mother to 2, I think she has been truly avoiding.
     
  10. Starke

    Starke Fapstronaut

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    If there's nothing you can do then there's nothing to worry about. You can show other people the path but you cant make them WANT to walk it.
     
  11. Qujing Shen

    Qujing Shen Fapstronaut

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    Hey,

    I don't really understand why you're so upset. She only quit four months ago. I know from experience that it's very easy to relapse with cigarettes.

    You complicated the situation by telling her to shower. Honestly, that's not a very respectful thing to tell your partner to do. It's obviously made her feel she needs them even more now. The only reason she'd hide it is a fear that you'd judge her negatively.

    If she's aware that you want to be committed to a woman that's healthy yet she continues to neglect her health over some length of time, then you're fully entitled to be a little frustrated, or even leave her if you can't see change in a sight. But getting pissy and controlling over a slip up isn't cool and invites a greater challenge than was ever necessary.

    If I were you, I'd apologise about instructing her to take a shower and failing to be understanding about her relapse. That way you invite her to feel like she can be open with you again.
     
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  12. WhoCares101

    WhoCares101 Fapstronaut

    I get your point and I have been and still continue to be fully supportive of her in this journey. Every other time she has slipped she has been fully honest and it has not bothered me that she has ever slipped up and I always tell her that I am here to help any way she needs and I understand how hard it is. This time it was that she lied and hid it from me for a week that bugged me, it left me trying to figure out what I had done wrong in the past to suddenly prompt her to lie. Later she would tell me that she could not stand seeing the look of disappointment on my face that so many others have given her over the years. So she was grafting another emotion from other people into me, which is not fair our relationship to be honest but I understand given the horrible things she has been through in the past.

    The shower thing was more, "hey, before the girls(her daughters) come in here and smell this can we take a shower please, it's unfair for the girls to have mommy smelling like a chimney again." It was not a demand, I asked her simply if she could because her daughters deserve better, something she herself had told me 4 months before, "I fucking hate that the girls have to smell me like this sometimes and dont want them too."

    Everytime she has slipped and bought a pack she say I can take the pack. I always tell her she's not a child, she has to make the choice to give me the pack or toss the pack out, above all it has to be her choice. It's the reason why I wont take her debit card away like she has hinted at a number of times before so she does not have the funds to buy a pack, she is 29, not 16 and it's time for all of us, myself included, to act like adults.

    I told her last night even if I am wrong here, being an insane asshole or you want me out of this struggle please let me know. She said, "no, your the first person to try and help me though something like this and without your support I could not have made it this far." I will gladly keep my distance from it if she asks, she knows that.
     
  13. Qujing Shen

    Qujing Shen Fapstronaut

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    @Spitfirewho

    That's cool. You sound like you're handling things well overall, and it's definitely better that she avoids smoking when there are young children around looking up to her. They bring an extra dimension of urgency to the table.

    I wish you both the best with your respective withdrawals!
     
  14. HereAndThere

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    Its nice to have a gf whose mouth never tastes like an ashtray but your gf isnt that person. Yet. And she might never be. Btw im sorry for your hateful job. Good luck.
    Ive listened that audiobook like 100 times while i was trying to quit. I dont smoke for years, it did help a bit. I think that guy Allen Carr actually died of lung cancer. Hah, thats life.
     

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