HOCD/porn addition and gay porn

I posted this I'm the pm, but I'll post it again for you.

I've explained this to you but you simply refuse to listen to the science of porn addition.

Here I'll repeat it.
The brain seeks for consecutive novelty and normal porn wont do it anymore when you watch too much so your brain needs more shocking,the more unusual and the stranger the new genre is the more it is going to activate your dopamine receptors and it will feel more exciting than normal porn,until you escalate again to stranger tastes. ive escalated to way more fucked up shit. Like beastiality and grandma porn and other things I won't mention. So according to your logic I'm also gay, grannysexual, and zoosexual?

No of course not. IT'S PORN ADDITION DUDE. RESEARCH ABOUT BECAUSE YOU OBVIOUSLY DON'T KNOW ABOUT.

Lesbian and straight porn weren't as exciting as it used to be so I needed that extra rush!

Porn addition is just like drug addiction.
You start off with weed then get addicted
To other dangerous drugs because you need that extra rush.

Porn isn't a good indication of what you like in real life. Especially when you're addicted to it.

Every scientist that study porn addition and almost everyoneon NoFap knows this.

I once again advice you to research about porn addition and HOCD because you obviously have no knowledge about it.

Just because you have a real homosexual encounter doesn't mean you're gay unless you liked it.

People could have gay sexual encountera to expiriment or they could be drunk or high without knowing what they're doing.

I know a gay friend who had sex with a women, but claimed he didn't like it so according to you he's straight?

And for the last time the finger thing IS BULLSHIT DUDE.

I've shown you SEVERAL TIMES of gay people having straight people fingers. So does that make the gay people are straight?

Also I agree with Christian about the "born gay" thing it's just a bunch of propaganda bull.

 

"The reason why you've watched granny sex and zoo sex is largely due to your homosexual preferences. You see my friend who is gay has cited the exact same escalation. When I asked him why he watched granny porn and transgendered person porn he said he didn't know at the time, but I guess he was preparing himself to watch gay porn. Basically, he found gay porn disgusting so subconsciously the route to gay porn went, granny -> transgendered person- gay. This would logically explain your descent to gay porn viewing. And by disgusting I mean the world had conditioned to think gay people are disgusting. They're not of course, gay people are perfectly normal healthy individuals like yourself."

LMFAO XD dude right now you're just pulling shit out of your ass.

How the hell does grandma porn and zoo porn even relate to me being gay?? XD

Why can't me watching gay porn be largely due to you to my fat girl and old lady preference? Why can't it be the other way around?

If this is how your friend (if he exists) actually became gay through looking at granny porn and all. Then it's very likely that your friend isn't gay.

Porn just most likely messed up his mind. Because people don't automatically become gay from watching porn dude.

One of the side effects for porn is that it can mess up your orientation.

"No, no no no NO. If you go ahead and have a homosexual encounter, unless you were raped that makes you gay. Don't go believing any other nonsense. This is where there is a problem with the way it currently stands at the moment, people think they're not gay when they truly are.

I'm not trolling I'm simply trying to help you bruh, you've got this wrong. Come on, if you believed you had a HOCD why wouldn't you gather all your friends and family and tell them, if they believe you wouldn't they laugh along with you?

As I said before, maybe you're just unsure. But look at all the people who have chimed in and said their HOCD lead to gay web camming, sex with men. What about these people. Like I said if you need any links about coming to terms with yourself PM me. I'll be glad to help."


What about all the gay people that have straight sexual encounters because they think they're straight? Does that automatically makes them straight if they had the encounter?

No it doesn't they didn't like it. THEY WERE EXPIRIMENTING. Do you know what expiramenting means?

There's a difference between testing it out and there's a difference between liking it.


What does telling my parents I have HOCD have to do with anything? How does that change anything?

Gathering your friends and family you have HOCD has nothing to do with whether you have it or not. You can hide it to yourself or tell your family and friends....it doesn't matter you still have it either way. And BTW I was diagnosed with ocd a while ago. So my parents do know that I obsess over a lot of things.

"But look at all the people who have chimed in and said their HOCD lead to gay web camming, sex with men. What about these people."

I don't know of any people but what about those people? HOCD/ocd can fuck with your mind and you do crazy shit it can compulsively make you go to gay Web cams or watch gay porn over and over to TEST yourself. It has nothing to do with enjoyment. If the people you're talking about actually ENJOYED the Web cams and gay sex then they're probably gay.


"Honestly if you're embarrassed you can send a picture of your hand via private mail. I just need to confirm the test was conducted under the proper circumstances."

Lol I've proven to you that the finger thing was bullshit so why do you still care about?

And like I said last 2 weeks ago I was obsessing about the finger crap and measured it SEVERAL TIMES and my ring fingers were bigger everytime...sooo

 

Yes it's a psychological process DURING PORN ADDITION....NOT HOMOSEXUALITY.

Granny porn and zoo porn are COMPLETELY DIFFERENT from homosexuality. They don't connect man.

No HOMOSEXUALITY has gone through the process of liking animals then old ladies....do you not realize how dumb you sound?

You see this is where you're wrong. Believe it or not thereally have been PLENTY of straight guys whove expiramented with the same sex. I know PLENTY actually. They're unsure of their sexuality and try to expirament with guys and it turns out that it's definitely not their cup of tea. It happens to plenty of people.

Like my cousins best friend.

He received a BJ from a guy who lived near him simply because he wanted to know what it felt like. He had a female friend who is bi and she said that girls know how to do oral better than most guys, so he just had this thought that it would be the same for guys. He told me he was on a swingers website at the time and after a few drinks one evening he just thought, 'don't knock it til you try it'. He said he messaged a guy near him and told him he just wanted a quick BJ and he agreed

My cousins friend said he lived about a mile from him so it was easy to get to. He told me that the gay dude did all the work, he told me that they never finish as it felt awkward asituation fuck to him. He said didn't feel at all comfortable having a guy doing it. He told us that he told him to told him to stop and said sorry for wasting his time but I didn't feel comfortable with it. He was understanding and held no hard feelings

He told us that he wouldn't do it again.

Why is it a different scenario?
The gays expirament and don't like it
And the straights expirament and don't like it....it's the same shit.

If gays can expirament and not like it why can't the same be said for straights???

Who's being pressured to be straight? Lol know one is putting the a gun to the gay guys head and forcing him to be straight.

And if he knows he's gay then why does he have to have sex the opposite gender sex isn't a must...

Nobody is being pressured to do anything, so don't play that victim card bull.

You can be straight and still look at gay porn IF it's caused by porn addition/ HOCD. And I never said just gay porn. You can also expirament with other guys and still be straight.

If you had 20 gay experiences and liked 0% of them THEN HOW THE FUCK ARE GAY?!?!? You're not making any sense here.

People who are raped by gays have a gay experiences and definitely don't like them but according to your fucking logic since they have those experiences those people are gay. You sound stupid as hell and aren't even using common sense.

Yeah. You're brain can trick you into being straight just like how your brain can trick you into being gay (especially from porn addition and HOCD)

Well from your replies you obviously DON'T get where I'm coming from.

I don't really care if I get called gay man, and what theories am I making up? You're the only one who's been doing that to confuse everyone who isn't suffering from a gay issue. This is a porn issue, and I'm pretty sure that porn can do this to people but unfortunately you're not educated enough about porn addition.
I haven't been making "theories"
I've presented you with several facts that you simply choose to ignore.

Again. Masturbating to a gay porn because of a bad porn addition and having sex with a dude while enjoying it are 2 completely different things.

2 years ago I was still addicted to porn so Idk what I would say, but if you were to ask me before my porn addiction then I would've said no because my brain wasn't jacked up on porn at the time.

All I could think about were women.

I feel pretty straight. I'd probably feel even better if I can manage to not watch porn for 90 days

 

Lol ignorance is bliss huh?

Yes there are gay people who have sex with the opposite gender to fit in, but what you seem to be ignoring is the fact there ARE gays out there that expirament with straight people maybe because at the time they were unsure about their sexuality and decided to have sex with the opposite gender and realized that they were gay....this happens man...don't know why this is so hard for you to believe.

Here read this thread. http://www.hipforums.com/forum/topic/268002-do-gay-people-experiment/

This should be more than enough proof...or you can just remain ignorant.

These are some of the stories about homosexuals that I think is a load of crap.

How can a "gay" get married to a woman AND ACTUALLY HAVE MULTIPLE KIDS WITH HER? if the gay dudes penis is hard enough to actually ejaculate in the woman's vaginal multiple times and have multiple children then that gay guy isn't gay. If he didn't really like pussy then he shouldn't be able to do it with women. His dick should be as soft as a pillow. And not only that. The selfish "gay" idiot just leaves his fucking family just to shove his dick in some guys butt-hole.

If you ask me. Those stories about men HAVING CHILDREN with women then "coming out as gay" is a bunch of bull.
But then again....it's not like people are born gay so it's possible they could've gone from straight to gay.

I never said that YOU were the one that said if a person has 20 gay experiences and likes it ZERO PERCENT OF THE TIME then that person is gay. That's not true at all. Hypothetically speaking it doesn't matter how many how many gay experiences a person has....IF THE GUYS DICK IS LIMP AND SOFT AS HELL. THEN HE'S NOT ENJOYING IT MEANING HE ISN'T GAY! Now, if the guy has JUST ONE gay experience and during that gay experience if the guy was as hard as a rock THEN that person is gay because it shows that he's actually enjoying it. Understand?

It doesn't matter how many gay expiriences you have if your dick is hard THEN you're gay.

Again, same with gay people. If they were to expirament with a woman and there dick was limp and soft the whole time....does that make the gay guy straight? This is the logic you seem to be using.

Youre right rape is completely different, but at the same time the same thing.

BOTH OF THEM ARE STILL NOT ENJOYING THEMSELVES WHILE DOING SOMETHING HOMOSEXUAL....BOTH....that's why I'm comparing them. Just because you're doing something homosexual doesn't mean you're homosexual. That's the point that you don't see to understand.

Like I said. I was still addicted and jacked up on porn. Maybe it wasn't as bad as it is now.

Again if you were to ask me before my porn addiction I would've said no because I fucking loved girls and would never think about guys or anything.

But I believe that porn can really fucking up like this.

 

No I don't like dick. And I'd really appreciate it if you stop talking to me like I'm some gay dude in the closet, because it's really irritating. You obviously don't know what's going through my head and have not a single clue about porn addition and HOCD. I'm sorry to say this but I think you may actually be a true idiot. You should seriously get off of this site or my thread because you seriously aren't helping anyone at all. You're just being an idiot and spiking people's anxiety unnecessarily.

Again. I advise you to educate yourself on porn addition and ocd. Once you've done that. Then we can have another proper discussion about this.

As of now I'll write you off as a dumb troll.

 

You seem to not pay very good attention to things. It's one of the reasons why you're a bad advisor.

You obviously didn't read the rest of the thread. You just read that one thing and ignored everything else.

Like I said....ignorance is bliss.

Again, like I said before....it's true that there are some gays that that only have sex with the same gender just to fit in BUT THAT IS NOT THE CASE FOR ALL GAYS. READ THE REST OF THE THREAD.

Not one of them experimented for that reason except for that one guy.

But still. According to your logic since he had a sexual experience with a woman and didn't really like it he's straight.

I don't understand you though. You're being somewhat of a hypocrite.

Why is it that gay people can have straight experiences and not like it but can still be gay? But if a straight guy has gay experiences and not like it he's automatically gay?

You sure do stick up for gays a whole lot. You sure you aren't gay yourself?

How so?

Like I said. PORN AND REAL LIFE ARE COMPLETELY DIFFERENT THINGS. Especially if you have a port addition. Pay attention man, geez.

If you get hard during REAL LIFE experiences THEN that's when the possibility of you being gay can be considered.

Like I said what qualifies you as being gay means BEING ACTUALLY ATTRACTED TO THE SAME SEX. THAT'S MY DEFINITION OF HOMOSEXUALITY.
IF ANOTHER MAN IS HARD IN BED WITH ANOTHER MAN THAT MAN IS GAY.

understand? This isn't rocket science.

You're actually the one trying to change it up and coming up with bullshit definitions.

PORN doesn't determine ones sexuality especially during a PORN addiction stage. I've proven this to you numerous amounts of times. But you remain ignorant.


Also boku no pico is actually about boys who look 100% like women. They wear women's clothing, act like women, and are even voiced by women. Most gays don't like things as feminine as that. They usually like masculine things not feminine things. So this should also be a good indicator of me being straight.

Lol that's not a contradiction are you seriously not smart enough to understand this XD. Alright I'll explain.

Alright. Rape is NOT the same because of it being non consenting and forced. While expiramenting usually isn't.

Now. They ARE the same because they both ARE NOT ENJOYING THEMSELVES.

Understand now? So both aren't gay

Lol I think I get it now. I think that you're a gay guy that's trying to convince others into being gay . I guess it was true after all. Gays reproduce by recruiting XD.

I've never known of a straight guy who tries so hard to convince other straight guys to be gay

Figured you out man

 

Well. I've told you already. It's about men liking other men (meaning they get hard) in real life naturally. Without porn addiction. Or hocd.

 

Lol geez another one.

I advise you and tweeby to research more about porn addition and ocd. Then we'll have a good conversation.

 

Holy crap bro you really got me. XD

Thank you so much for the advice.
You really did spike up my anxiety alot. It was the reason I was so defense.

I was really confused when you brought up the Internet test and and the finger ratio thing. Because I was thinking that nobody really believed it and that it was bull.

I apologize in advance. I didn't really mean those offensive things.



I feel like a dumbass now.

I keep trying to quit porn but EVERY SINGLE DAY I ALWAYS FUCK UP AND MO TO PORN. And HOCD isn't making it better AT ALL.

I've already maturbaated 3 times today because of porn

I'm but this crappie seems impossible!


How do you not watch porn and masturbate to it for 90 days

Anyways I'll read you're post and I apologize man.